04-19-2003, 04:56 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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It occured to me the other day that Douglas Adams and Lewis Carrol are primarily recognised as novelists, both of them are actually very good philosophers. I won't patronise you with examples, because they're both well known and you can find a lot of their stuff on the net.
Anyone else got any examples of good philosophers who are more recognised for their work in comedy, science, sport or whatever? |
04-19-2003, 05:21 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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Jeez, what loser posted this thread?
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04-19-2003, 05:49 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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Not fair: I've got at least four more threads with no replies
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04-19-2003, 06:33 AM | #6 (permalink) | |
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I just thought of another one: Einstein. Apparently he wrote whole books on philosophy and politics. Can't claim to have read them. |
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04-19-2003, 07:20 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Randy Newman!? His philosophy would be something like: Be a Pepper!
I'd say all art involves or interrelates with philosophy on some level. Music, literature, visual arts, performance arts (including comedy), etc--they're all about exploring and expressing a world-view, which is all that Philosophy is, really. Think about Steven Wright, for instance! |
04-20-2003, 09:40 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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Richard Dawkins would be one. He is an evolutionary biologist, but he writes a lot about religion.
John Henry: Relating to your original post, he was good friends with Douglas Adams. He wrote a eulogy for him which can be found here: http://www.edge.org/documents/adams_index.html |
04-20-2003, 10:04 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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The Velveteen Rabbit.
Dr. Suess. There is a reason I collect Children's books.
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04-20-2003, 06:17 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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lebell beat me to it...dr. seuss...
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04-20-2003, 08:24 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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It's hard to know whether "formally" recognizing all of these people as philosophers would be a good or bad thing. On the one hand, their work would gain gravitas in academia, but that might then make them inaccessible to many people who could stand to read some good philosophy.
Personally, I've always been disappointed that people only know Hunter Thompson for "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas", which they then say is just all about drugs. His "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72" was a good bit of political science and "Hell's Angels" was some very readable pop sociology. |
04-20-2003, 08:53 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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I am just finishing a book by Asimov. Defeinitely should be added to the list. Feynman is another good pick, along with Gould or Hawking.
A philosphy of the beauty inherent in existence, and an appreciation of that beauty.
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04-20-2003, 11:51 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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George Carlin
Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they? Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. The planet is fine, the people are fucked. One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? I went to a bookstore and asked the sales woman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
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04-21-2003, 01:37 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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Nice answers all round.
Cheers for the link, sapiens, that brought a tear to my eye.
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04-21-2003, 02:36 AM | #27 (permalink) |
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I will second Isaac Asimov. One of my ex's dad had a huge collection and I read through a few of them while we were together and purchased many more afterwards.
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