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Old 04-19-2003, 04:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It occured to me the other day that Douglas Adams and Lewis Carrol are primarily recognised as novelists, both of them are actually very good philosophers. I won't patronise you with examples, because they're both well known and you can find a lot of their stuff on the net.

Anyone else got any examples of good philosophers who are more recognised for their work in comedy, science, sport or whatever?
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Old 04-19-2003, 05:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Jeez, what loser posted this thread?
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Old 04-19-2003, 05:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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lol just kidding just kidding


Many people over look Chris Rock, even George Carlin
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Old 04-19-2003, 05:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Not fair: I've got at least four more threads with no replies
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Old 04-19-2003, 06:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's not that it's a bad question, just one that seems easy enough but is kinda tough to answer when you actually think about it.

How about Jerry Seinfeld?
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Old 04-19-2003, 06:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It's not that it's a bad question, just one that seems easy enough but is kinda tough to answer when you actually think about it.

How about Jerry Seinfeld?
I like it

I just thought of another one: Einstein. Apparently he wrote whole books on philosophy and politics. Can't claim to have read them.
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Old 04-19-2003, 06:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 04-19-2003, 07:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 04-19-2003, 07:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Randy Newman!? His philosophy would be something like: Be a Pepper!

I'd say all art involves or interrelates with philosophy on some level. Music, literature, visual arts, performance arts (including comedy), etc--they're all about exploring and expressing a world-view, which is all that Philosophy is, really.

Think about Steven Wright, for instance!
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Old 04-19-2003, 07:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Randy Newman!? His philosophy would be something like: Be a Pepper!

Think about Steven Wright, for instance!
Hey, there's a few Zen patriarch's who'd think that was quite a good philosophy
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Old 04-19-2003, 08:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Richard Dawkins would be one. He is an evolutionary biologist, but he writes a lot about religion.

John Henry: Relating to your original post, he was good friends with Douglas Adams. He wrote a eulogy for him which can be found here:

http://www.edge.org/documents/adams_index.html
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I vote for randy newman, his early stuff is great....
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The Velveteen Rabbit.

Dr. Suess.

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Old 04-20-2003, 06:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i remember a list i saw on the internet of famous people who had degrees in philosophy. some day, hopfully i will be on that list! :-)
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Old 04-20-2003, 06:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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lebell beat me to it...dr. seuss...
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It's hard to know whether "formally" recognizing all of these people as philosophers would be a good or bad thing. On the one hand, their work would gain gravitas in academia, but that might then make them inaccessible to many people who could stand to read some good philosophy.

Personally, I've always been disappointed that people only know Hunter Thompson for "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas", which they then say is just all about drugs. His "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72" was a good bit of political science and "Hell's Angels" was some very readable pop sociology.
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I am just finishing a book by Asimov. Defeinitely should be added to the list. Feynman is another good pick, along with Gould or Hawking.

A philosphy of the beauty inherent in existence, and an appreciation of that beauty.
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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ayn rand comes to mind.

or douglas hofstadter.
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Bill Hicks.

Also Eddie Izzard.
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Old 04-20-2003, 11:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Dennis Miller.


Okay, so maybe not but it was worth a try.
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Old 04-20-2003, 11:51 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:02 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Carl Sagan. He went beyond consideration of just the stars.
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:37 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Nice answers all round.

Cheers for the link, sapiens, that brought a tear to my eye.
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:40 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:36 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I will second Isaac Asimov. One of my ex's dad had a huge collection and I read through a few of them while we were together and purchased many more afterwards.
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