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cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:25 PM

Is it possible?

I've heard that travel forwards can work, but backwards isn't possible.

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:26 PM

I heard you need to not weigh anything and have to be going the speed of light.

So, yes. It's not just possible, it's easy!

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:27 PM

I think time travel could work backwards. You'd just change everything in the past. Bam.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:28 PM

like, the faster you go, the slower time is.

there was an experiment where an atomic clock was a few milliseconds slower after being in space

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:28 PM

Wait, no. Time trave is definitly not possible, cause if it were, somebody would have come from the future by now and given us the technolongy!

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:29 PM

then again, mass would become infinite as you reach light speed

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:29 PM

Maybe only robots could withstand the terrible rigors of time travel? I wouldn't trust a robot to kill hitler.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:29 PM

maybe they aren't allowed to in the future

like in TimeCop

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:32 PM

Okay, I was just thinking about this and if you tried to go back in time to kill your grandfather before he could father your father, wouldn't that mean that you would never be born so you couldn't go back in time to kill your grandfather?

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:32 PM

Well, haven't you seen those Terminator movies? The robots kill everyone! maybe there is no future to visit, thanks to those robots.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:32 PM

Or what if you could only time-travel into like, gateways, so time-travel in the past isn't possible UNTIL we perfect it our era?

Speedster · 08-11-2003, 08:32 PM

I recall reading somewhere about the use of black holes to travel through time.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:33 PM

"Okay, I was just thinking about this and if you tried to go back in time to kill your grandfather before he could father your father, wouldn't that mean that you would never be born so you couldn't go back in time to kill your grandfather?"

What if there are alternate universes?

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:33 PM

Black holes are just theoretical. Nobody knows if they really exist.

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:33 PM

Are black holes the same thing as worm holes?

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:33 PM

Oh, shit, yeah, black holes are crazy

Like, they distort reality

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:34 PM

No, worm holes are tears in the interdimensional fabric,

black holes are collapsed stars

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:34 PM

Have you heard what those crazy scientists say? Black holes bend light? Please.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:35 PM

Black holes ABSORB light dude.

They bend TIME.

If you go the speed of light, time like, freezes

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cosmixmaster
"Okay, I was just thinking about this and if you tried to go back in time to kill your grandfather before he could father your father, wouldn't that mean that you would never be born so you couldn't go back in time to kill your grandfather?"

What if there are alternate universes?

Assuming there were an infinite number of alt universes, and you could travel between them, wouldn't there be an infinite number of universes traveling to ours?

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:37 PM

If you go the speed of light, I think you just can't see anything. Like when you break the sound barrier, you can't hear anything? Its the light barrier.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:39 PM

well, tonic, maybe there are

or maybe there are a finite number of universes

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:40 PM

Maybe, there only is one universe, and life is just one big choose your own adventure.

Go to page 76.

titsmurf · 08-11-2003, 08:41 PM

I had this idea about time travel a while ago, which I think is a sensible way of finding out if it can ever be done.

We erect a huge monument that will forever remain standing, and we write the date of completion on it. We put the text: "here, on (date), the very first time travellers ever appeared" on it. Then, theoretically, as soon as the monument is complete, people should show up and prove once and for all that time travel is possible.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:41 PM

the problem is the faster you go, the more mass you have

thats why you need to use negative energy

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titsmurf
I had this idea about time travel a while ago, which I think is a sensible way of finding out if it can ever be done.

We erect a huge monument that will forever remain standing, and we write the date of completion on it. We put the text: "here, on (date), the very first time travellers ever appeared" on it. Then, theoretically, as soon as the monument is complete, people should show up and prove once and for all that time travel is possible.

But, what if fate doesn't exist? Does that mean time travel is impossible without fate?

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:43 PM

"We erect a huge monument that will forever remain standing, and we write the date of completion on it. We put the text: "here, on (date), the very first time travellers ever appeared" on it. Then, theoretically, as soon as the monument is complete, people should show up and prove once and for all that time travel is possible."

BUT WHAT IF you require like a teleporter to go back in time.

We would need a gateway for them to come back

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:46 PM

A teleporter, comixmater? I don't know what you mean by that.

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:48 PM

Hmm... perhaps

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:49 PM

^^about fate

a teleporter

think about this:

time travel could need 2 doors

they have one in the future
we don't have one in the present

until we build a door or gateway, they can't visit us and we can't visit them

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:50 PM

Oh, I see. Yeah, but by the time we make a portal... uh... that means that we could travel in time ourselves. IT'S A CATCH 22!

Anywho... Maybe time travel IS fate, in a sense. Maybe everything we do is fate, and any deviation is time travel!

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:51 PM

Technically, as we observe time going forward right now, aren't we time traveling FORWARD?

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:53 PM

So, everyone can time travel, we just can't control it. Or maybe we can, thats why childhood seems longer, than the rest of your life! Maybe, people will learn to master the very flow of time...

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 08:54 PM

I doubt it.

You can't always rely on fate

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 08:55 PM

Okay that's just crazy because if it's fate, isn't it bound to happen? Like destiny? So of course you can count on it.

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 08:56 PM

Thats very profound... A good argument against fate. Maybe time is the counter to free will.

Tonic · 08-11-2003, 09:01 PM

Assuming you went beyond the speed of light, wouldn't you become god?

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 09:01 PM

destiny = fate

maybe like aliens can travel in time

cosmixmaster · 08-11-2003, 09:04 PM

why would be be god?

just cause you're going fast doesn't make you omnipotent

HeadyIncognito · 08-11-2003, 09:04 PM

That is an interesting analogy tonic. If you could go beyond the speed of light, and reap the time traveling rewards that that entails, you could reshape the world and essentially be a god!

08-11-2003, 08:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	Time Travel Is it possible? I've heard that travel forwards can work, but backwards isn't possible.

08-11-2003, 08:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	I heard you need to not weigh anything and have to be going the speed of light. So, yes. It's not just possible, it's easy! __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Wait, no. Time trave is definitly not possible, cause if it were, somebody would have come from the future by now and given us the technolongy! __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Well, haven't you seen those Terminator movies? The robots kill everyone! maybe there is no future to visit, thanks to those robots. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Black holes are just theoretical. Nobody knows if they really exist. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	I think time travel could work backwards. You'd just change everything in the past. Bam.

08-11-2003, 08:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	like, the faster you go, the slower time is. there was an experiment where an atomic clock was a few milliseconds slower after being in space

08-11-2003, 08:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	then again, mass would become infinite as you reach light speed

08-11-2003, 08:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	Maybe only robots could withstand the terrible rigors of time travel? I wouldn't trust a robot to kill hitler.

08-11-2003, 08:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	maybe they aren't allowed to in the future like in TimeCop

08-11-2003, 08:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	Okay, I was just thinking about this and if you tried to go back in time to kill your grandfather before he could father your father, wouldn't that mean that you would never be born so you couldn't go back in time to kill your grandfather?

08-11-2003, 08:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	Or what if you could only time-travel into like, gateways, so time-travel in the past isn't possible UNTIL we perfect it our era?

08-11-2003, 08:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Speedster Crazy	I recall reading somewhere about the use of black holes to travel through time.

08-11-2003, 08:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	"Okay, I was just thinking about this and if you tried to go back in time to kill your grandfather before he could father your father, wouldn't that mean that you would never be born so you couldn't go back in time to kill your grandfather?" What if there are alternate universes?

08-11-2003, 08:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	Are black holes the same thing as worm holes?

08-11-2003, 08:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	Oh, shit, yeah, black holes are crazy Like, they distort reality

08-11-2003, 08:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	No, worm holes are tears in the interdimensional fabric, black holes are collapsed stars

08-11-2003, 08:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Have you heard what those crazy scientists say? Black holes bend light? Please. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	Black holes ABSORB light dude. They bend TIME. If you go the speed of light, time like, freezes

08-11-2003, 08:37 PM	#21 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	If you go the speed of light, I think you just can't see anything. Like when you break the sound barrier, you can't hear anything? Its the light barrier. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	well, tonic, maybe there are or maybe there are a finite number of universes

08-11-2003, 08:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Maybe, there only is one universe, and life is just one big choose your own adventure. Go to page 76. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
titsmurf Crazy Location: Belgium	I had this idea about time travel a while ago, which I think is a sensible way of finding out if it can ever be done. We erect a huge monument that will forever remain standing, and we write the date of completion on it. We put the text: "here, on (date), the very first time travellers ever appeared" on it. Then, theoretically, as soon as the monument is complete, people should show up and prove once and for all that time travel is possible.

08-11-2003, 08:41 PM	#25 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	the problem is the faster you go, the more mass you have thats why you need to use negative energy

08-11-2003, 08:43 PM	#27 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	"We erect a huge monument that will forever remain standing, and we write the date of completion on it. We put the text: "here, on (date), the very first time travellers ever appeared" on it. Then, theoretically, as soon as the monument is complete, people should show up and prove once and for all that time travel is possible." BUT WHAT IF you require like a teleporter to go back in time. We would need a gateway for them to come back

08-11-2003, 08:46 PM	#28 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	A teleporter, comixmater? I don't know what you mean by that. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	Hmm... perhaps

08-11-2003, 08:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	^^about fate a teleporter think about this: time travel could need 2 doors they have one in the future we don't have one in the present until we build a door or gateway, they can't visit us and we can't visit them

08-11-2003, 08:50 PM	#31 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Oh, I see. Yeah, but by the time we make a portal... uh... that means that we could travel in time ourselves. IT'S A CATCH 22! Anywho... Maybe time travel IS fate, in a sense. Maybe everything we do is fate, and any deviation is time travel! __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:51 PM	#32 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	Technically, as we observe time going forward right now, aren't we time traveling FORWARD?

08-11-2003, 08:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	So, everyone can time travel, we just can't control it. Or maybe we can, thats why childhood seems longer, than the rest of your life! Maybe, people will learn to master the very flow of time... __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 08:54 PM	#34 (permalink)
cosmixmaster Upright	I doubt it. You can't always rely on fate

08-11-2003, 08:55 PM	#35 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	Okay that's just crazy because if it's fate, isn't it bound to happen? Like destiny? So of course you can count on it.

08-11-2003, 08:56 PM	#36 (permalink)
HeadyIncognito Crazy Location: PDX	Thats very profound... A good argument against fate. Maybe time is the counter to free will. __________________ Even Hitler had a girlfriend...

08-11-2003, 09:01 PM	#37 (permalink)
Tonic Upright	Assuming you went beyond the speed of light, wouldn't you become god?