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Old 08-08-2003, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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God Damn It

why do religious people have a problem with me saying that?

i said god damn it once and this girl gave me this really dirty look and i've had several bad experiences saying that.

this dude got pissed at me once cuz i said that cuz i used god's name in vain.

well, why dont they mind their own business?? why do they have the urge to tell me what i should say?
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Old 08-08-2003, 11:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow! For once I have to agree with you. I dated a christian once, big mistake, and she got all pissed off when I would say that or jesus christ. How lame. Grow up. I would always have to hear shit about it, but her dad would say them both, but just not around her or her mom. He was a pussy for not standing his ground and telling them, "I'm a grown man and jesus fucking christ I'll say whatever the hell I want to. God Dammit!"
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Old 08-08-2003, 11:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Personally i wouldn't mind it if someone said that around me. But if someone asked me not to say it i would be nice enough not to say it around them. I mean i'm not gonna keep saying it just to piss that person off. That seems like something a child would do.

Just my opinion
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Old 08-08-2003, 11:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Personally i wouldn't mind it if someone said that around me. But if someone asked me not to say it i would be nice enough not to say it around them. I mean i'm not gonna keep saying it just to piss that person off. That seems like something a child would do.

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Yuppersness. A good friend of mine is Christian (Catholic? What's the difference?) Anyways, I try not to even mention anything remotely religious-based when I'm around him because I'd rather keep him as a friend than make an enemy out of him. But just about any other time I'd use god's name in vain without a second though Also, if you read "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" (damned good book by Robert A. Heinlein) you might pick up the silly habit of saying "bog" instead of "god"-- I know I did!
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Old 08-08-2003, 02:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Religious people enjoy getting offended, that's all.
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Old 08-08-2003, 02:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yuppersness. A good friend of mine is Christian (Catholic? What's the difference?)
You've got to be kidding?!

Right?

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Anyways, I try not to even mention anything remotely religious-based when I'm around him because I'd rather keep him as a friend than make an enemy out of him.
I think you'll find a reaction toward "swearing" is not based upon Christianity per se, but upon a more fundamentalist approach toward interpreting the Bible.

I come from Ireland (still a religious country) and was raised a Catholic.
EVERYONE there swears like a sailor. Trust me.

This whole "Don't take God's name in vain" thing is much more common in the US (and especially the Bible Belt) than anywhere else in the world.

Not a criticism. Just an observation.

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Old 08-08-2003, 02:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I come from Ireland (still a religious country) and was raised a Catholic.
EVERYONE there swears like a sailor. Trust me.
Well that's fuckin true.
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Old 08-08-2003, 02:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Personally i wouldn't mind it if someone said that around me. But if someone asked me not to say it i would be nice enough not to say it around them. I mean i'm not gonna keep saying it just to piss that person off. That seems like something a child would do.

Just my opinion
lol, i do the opposite. i keep saying god damn it on and on to keep pissin them off.

and they refer to god damn it as "GDI". it's hilarious
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Old 08-08-2003, 02:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow! For once I have to agree with you. I dated a christian once, big mistake, and she got all pissed off when I would say that or jesus christ. How lame. Grow up. I would always have to hear shit about it, but her dad would say them both, but just not around her or her mom. He was a pussy for not standing his ground and telling them, "I'm a grown man and jesus fucking christ I'll say whatever the hell I want to. God Dammit!"
Just a question here, as I don't believe in God, and thus am not offended by the phrases.

Why do athiests, agnostics, or nonbelievers say 'God Damnit" or "Jesus Christ!?" As we don't believe in him, why do we use his name as a curse word? Is it just a habit that we have picked up?

It just seems like if we don't believe in him, we shouldn't be using the name as a curse word...

Sorta mumbled, but hopefully you understand my point.
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Old 08-08-2003, 03:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Just a question here, as I don't believe in God, and thus am not offended by the phrases.

Why do athiests, agnostics, or nonbelievers say 'God Damnit" or "Jesus Christ!?" As we don't believe in him, why do we use his name as a curse word? Is it just a habit that we have picked up?

It just seems like if we don't believe in him, we shouldn't be using the name as a curse word...

Sorta mumbled, but hopefully you understand my point.
Meh! When you call someone an asshole, you're not literally implying that they consist soley of a rectrum, are you?
When you tell someone to Fuck Off, what exactly do you mean?

Don't try to philosophise too much on curse words...you won't get very far.
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Old 08-08-2003, 03:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yuppersness. A good friend of mine is Christian (Catholic? What's the difference?)
Heh if your an athiest maybe you should study religion a bit more before you go all out :O
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Old 08-08-2003, 03:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Don't try to philosophise too much on curse words...you won't get very far.
Hrumpft. I'm don't really care. I was just thought it was kinda dumb, and attempting to add to the conversation.
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Old 08-08-2003, 04:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Don't you start, ye fuckin' wanker.

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Old 08-08-2003, 04:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I say god damn it on purpose around religious people, just to see who the really sensitive child molesting psychos are.
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Old 08-08-2003, 05:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Personally i wouldn't mind it if someone said that around me. But if someone asked me not to say it i would be nice enough not to say it around them. I mean i'm not gonna keep saying it just to piss that person off. That seems like something a child would do.
Personally, I'll be pissed off like a mother fucker if a christain asks me not to say that kind of stuff around them because I'll bet my life that they've tried to convert my ass. I have never gone around and tried to convert a christian into an atheist and I never will. So I don't care if they get offended by what I say. They can get their bible thumpin ass away from me and shut the hell up.

drawerfixer, I think it's just said out of habit. We've all heard that said ever since we were kids so I guess it just sticks with us all.
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Old 08-08-2003, 05:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think it's really amusing when my husband's Mormon relatives (he grew up in UT and his extended family is Mormon) say "flip" or "fetch" instead of fuck, and "Oh my heck!" Forget taking the lord's name in vain, they can't even get close to a swear word! What's the difference if the intent is the same?
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Old 08-08-2003, 06:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What's the difference if the intent is the same?
Really though! it's hilarious that it's the words they avoid but end up create new swears.

and I'm with sixate and the_dude on this one... I tend to react poorly when people try to tell me how to act
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Old 08-08-2003, 07:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think it's really amusing when my husband's Mormon relatives (he grew up in UT and his extended family is Mormon) say "flip" or "fetch" instead of fuck, and "Oh my heck!" Forget taking the lord's name in vain, they can't even get close to a swear word! What's the difference if the intent is the same?
I agree. That is lame as hell. The christian girlie a dated for a few years was so crazy that she wouldn't say fuck. Instead of saying, "What the fuck!" She'd say, " What the Q!" I laughed at her the first time she said that and told her to act her fucking age. It's a miracle that we lasted as long as we did.
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Old 08-08-2003, 07:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That's cool that you guys says that but at the same time I won't have remorse when I say Fag, Queer, Heb, Coon, Nigger, or anything else that someone may take offense too.
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Old 08-08-2003, 07:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I think my father once say it's because you're not supposed to take the Lord's name in vain.

I'm not religious, so it doesn't matter to me.
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Old 08-08-2003, 08:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have no problem with people who are averse to profanity in general. I guess the people who are only offended by religious references kinda puzzles me, but to each his own I guess. Nobody's forcing you to be around that person.
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Old 08-08-2003, 11:40 PM   #22 (permalink)
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it's not that hard...if people get pissed off with what you say, choose between closing your mouth, or continuing to piss them off. I personally find it a little annoying when people use that phrase, but i generally forgo any sort of protest except with friends who i expect more from. It's along the same lines that i don't like to hear "that's gay" or "i got jew'd".
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Old 08-09-2003, 09:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Im not quiet religious myself, but I live in a very religious country. And I really HATE all the hypocrites around here... avoiding to say God's name in vain, while they do stuff far worse elsewhere... I dont usually say goddammit, because i dont find not much sense in it, since i tend to use stronger curses
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Old 08-09-2003, 10:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Religious people enjoy getting offended, that's all.
not really. look at it this way: as christian, one of the most important things in your life is your god. you might compare it to someone using your wife's or child's name as a swear word, a sort of a slam on them, tho not exactly aimed at them...

That's about what I think, but at the same time, I'm not gonna be a bitch about it, and any other swearing is fine (I agree with George Carlin on that whole issue)
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Old 08-09-2003, 11:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I usually like to throw in a little "tapdancing" between the big JC, you know, for good measure. It adds a little spice to the situation, especially if you are like amazed at how stupid someone just acted. As in "Jesus tapdancing christ, mike, what the fuck was that?"
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Old 08-10-2003, 01:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
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not really. look at it this way: as christian, one of the most important things in your life is your god. you might compare it to someone using your wife's or child's name as a swear word, a sort of a slam on them, tho not exactly aimed at them...

That's about what I think, but at the same time, I'm not gonna be a bitch about it, and any other swearing is fine (I agree with George Carlin on that whole issue)
Like 'Yo momma', you mean?
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Yuppersness. A good friend of mine is Christian (Catholic? What's the difference?)
The term 'Christian' covers a whole host of different types of people who worship the guy on the stick. Catholicism only covers those strains that are largely based on ancient European 'pagan' religions.
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Old 08-10-2003, 07:49 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Catholicism only covers those strains that are largely based on ancient European 'pagan' religions.
Now THERE'S a contentious statement if I ever heard one...



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Old 08-10-2003, 08:00 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Once I said "What the hell?" and most of the people (christian) around me (including a teacher) were like "You don't have to curse". I was thinking at that point, "What the hell?!?!?". I had no idea why that offended them. Yet they can take offense and look down on me for saying it. How is that at all fair? After thinking about it, I figure that "hell" is the trigger word. I guess they don't like to here it.
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Old 08-15-2003, 12:31 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I'm completely against censorship, but I'm also against being a bellicose, offensive wanker. Christians don't like it when you take their Lord's name in vain. Don't take it personally; it's part of their religion. Likewise, if you're having a barbecue and your Jewish friend declines to eat your sausages, try not to cry too hard.
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Old 08-15-2003, 06:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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All I'm saying is I got jew'd out of a very enjoyeable minute by reading this thread. But there are some made-up swears that I enjoy. And I exchange horribly tasteless, offensive things between my best friends and myself. Fetchin' word.

Anyone strongly fundamentalist or with large blinders on their field of perspective I tend to put in the "you're too useless to humanity for your opinion to have much salt with me" category and just continue with my day. There's not often a need to expressly do something to antagonize someone. Inflexible people will never be convinced by words from someone else's differing opinion anyway.
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Old 08-16-2003, 04:25 AM   #32 (permalink)
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christians believe in the power of their words. they believe that what they say can come to past if they speak it. i for one believe that as well. however i am not offended when people say God Damn it. most people have no idea what they are saying. all they are doing is asking God to damn something. which is completely fine with me. now you will never catch me just randomly saying it but i have used those terms on something i have really wanted God to damn. i mean feel free to use it freely it wont bug me. but hey you usually get what you ask for
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He has a name? Who christened him? His Mum?
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Old 08-17-2003, 11:21 AM   #36 (permalink)
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He has a name? Who christened him? His Mum?
HAHA! And if his mum christened him then that wouldn't make him a god now would it? How can the creator of everything have a mom?
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Old 08-17-2003, 11:29 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm a Christian, so I try to avoid saying it, but what other people say isn't my business, so I don't care.
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Old 08-17-2003, 01:29 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Interesting that you should use the word chistened.


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In the original Hebrew, "I AM" is rendered "Yahweh", which was mistranslated for many years as "Jehovah".
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Old 08-17-2003, 06:28 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Well I kind of the idea that if you don't know God, you shouldn't ask him to damn stuff. Let him make the judgement call.

The_Dude damn it!! now that's a cool swear..... try it out, spread it around...
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Old 08-17-2003, 06:56 PM   #40 (permalink)
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why do religious people have a problem with me saying that?

i said god damn it once and this girl gave me this really dirty look and i've had several bad experiences saying that.

this dude got pissed at me once cuz i said that cuz i used god's name in vain.

well, why dont they mind their own business?? why do they have the urge to tell me what i should say?
Because they believe that they need to push their beliefs onto you like so many other people do instead of minding their own damn buisness. I dont have a problem with religious people but when they start pushing their beliefs onto you thats where I draw the line.
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