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Old 07-29-2003, 09:18 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 07-29-2003, 09:43 PM   #42 (permalink)
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To those saying killing Hitler would be bad,
I agree that nobody could predict what would exist in his place, but it is likely that it wouldn't be as bad (how many Hitler's were created in all the countries going through the depression?).

The jews were in a mostly good position before 1933. Sure, there was prejudice and they didn't have their own state, but many were respected members of society, and were safe in that position. Most of world's leading scientists at the time were jewish.

Nuclear weapons would not have been developed for a long time if Germany never went to war. The Manhattan Project took up far more resources than any other single project in modern history up to that point. On top of that, physicists are a very pacifistic group. They wouldn't have done a thing if they didn't believe Germany would do it first, and use it. Bohr convinced the scientists that Heisenberg was working on a bomb under Hitler's orders (it appears now that this probably wasn't true, but nobody knows). Certainly, neither side would have developed the technology without a very desperate war (Japan was not a threat for this) to motivate it.

Also, the USSR gained a lot of territory from the war. The rush for Berlin also increased tensions with the west. Without those things, and without nuclear weapons, the Cold War probably wouldn't have happened.

There are obviously a lot more things to take into account, but this isn't an essay
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:11 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:37 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I personally think I could not only easily live with the death of anothers on my hands, but I can honestly say i wouldn't be very remorseful.

Take these people for example.

It seems to me that these people must have trouble sleeping at night. Even though they're killing people from afar, and they know that they have to as they are just following orders the airforce can be held accountable for a redicoulous amount of kills per single person. Ever seen a war movie. When they come in drop napalm in vietnam, or in the end of tears of the sun where the two f18's roll in with cluster bombs and destroy a whole battalion of nigerian soldiers. I can almost gurantee that there are pilots that have been in service to this country that have killed countless more persons that any serial killer that has ever walked the planet. Even more likely than the top 20 serial killers that have ever walked the planet.

I wouldn't end the life of anyone however, as i feel that killing is wrong. I fear even more that i might like the feeling. Not that I would become addicted, but you have to admit the people that you would like to kill sometimes are those that cause you the most angst and unrest in life. Therfore by killing them many problems of your are solved often major problems. Hence forth i'm glad that very few people have the power to just kill people at will. Not that you couldn't get away with it if you really needed to.

Take the Mob they've killed people hacked them up and buried them with lime for years, many have been caught as one rats out another. But many more have gone free. I believe that having ones death on your conciouse is infinitly easier than dealing with a lost love one or friend.

Then again i could be full of shit and a huge pansey who cry at the sight of a bunny rabit with its leg in a trap draw your own conclusions i have none

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