Makhnov

I wanted to read where Immanuel Kant wrote about noumena versus phenomena. I want to read this in his own words (translated into english). I'm not interested in a reader's digest version of this. Can anyone provide citations and page numbers for where Kant wrote about these things?

Baraka_Guru

It's in the Critique of Pure Reason, under the section Transcendental Doctrine of Elements, "Transcendental Logic" (Analytic of Principles).

Critique of Pure Reason - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wish you luck reading it, however, as it is understood to be one of the most difficult texts of Western philosophy; its arrangement is quite labyrinthine.

I think the section you want is here:
Critique of Pure Reason (Analytic of Principles)

__________________
Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
—From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

Makhnov

Wow. Thanks a lot for that.
I heard that this section of COPR is even more obscure in its original German.

I think that post-1960s americans are misinterpreting what Kant actually wrote. They think Kant is saying something "deep" about reality and perception likened to a hippy coming down from an LSD trip.

But Kant is not Terrance McKenna. Immanuel Kant is a philosopher speaking on the current state of knowledge in a Europe that was being radically transformed by newtonian science. Historians now call this age the Enlightenment. While what he was writing was scandalous in his own time, modern people should only see him as a person fleshing out the scientific method.

If I am wrong, and Kant really is a "hippy", feel free to correct me. I wanted to make sure I had the text in front of me before getting into this argument.