Does it matter? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Skitto · 07-05-2009, 11:09 PM

In a modern mentality full of openminded, big picture information and points of view, what the heck does it matter?

"it" can variously mean a few things: "people" for one, mortalness, mortality, and gradient variations between; "good vs evil" and all that can allude to.

Now I see a few things happening to our latest batch of geniuses who have to take in all this info-garble. Either they drive themselves into the ground with apathy, or they "shed their wings and fly" so to speak. There of course will be the ones to follow them above average to mid-average survivalists, the ones who can most readily utilize the most pertinent bits of wisdom to keep up. To me this all sounds a bit too much like the primitive hyper-future of H.G. Wells' "Time Machine", or the Seuss story "The Lorax"

But what does it matter? why even consider the possibility? Can't philosophy but help itself to turn into one of these nameless ideas that could be misconstrued when given a name, like "prophecy" or "religion" or "a nice tool for survival" and just completely fall out of the realm of linear, or even abstract, thought?

Jetée · 07-06-2009, 12:46 PM

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Skitto · 07-06-2009, 07:32 PM

This is different, I think.

Plan9 · 07-06-2009, 07:34 PM

Meat matters.

Zeraph · 07-07-2009, 10:09 AM

We're humans; philosophy comes with the territory. If we ever evolve away from it I don't think we'd resemble humans much anymore. It's like asking how we're conscious in the first place, no one really knows for sure.

lofhay · 07-16-2009, 02:33 PM

If we can ever figure out the answer to "What does it matter?", we can save ourselves a lot of time speculating and can move on to What do we do about it?

Iliftrocks · 07-17-2009, 06:35 AM

Of course "it" matters, because that's why we have our philosophical paradigms to start with. "It" wouldn't matter outside of the context of philosophy, would it? Universally speaking, it wouldn't matter, but specifically to people who care enough to think about it, then yes it matters. But it is relative to whatever it is and to the people who care about it.

Skitto · 07-23-2009, 02:13 AM

Caveman say: lift rock... why it matter?
Other caveman say: building door to keep out rain

First caveman lift rock and make very good door.

Iliftrocks · 07-23-2009, 09:36 AM

It must matter, because you are asking about it. Cavemen just like rocks, to them rocks matter.

07-05-2009, 11:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Skitto Crazy Location: Westernmost Continental U.S.	Does it matter? In a modern mentality full of openminded, big picture information and points of view, what the heck does it matter? "it" can variously mean a few things: "people" for one, mortalness, mortality, and gradient variations between; "good vs evil" and all that can allude to. Now I see a few things happening to our latest batch of geniuses who have to take in all this info-garble. Either they drive themselves into the ground with apathy, or they "shed their wings and fly" so to speak. There of course will be the ones to follow them above average to mid-average survivalists, the ones who can most readily utilize the most pertinent bits of wisdom to keep up. To me this all sounds a bit too much like the primitive hyper-future of H.G. Wells' "Time Machine", or the Seuss story "The Lorax" But what does it matter? why even consider the possibility? Can't philosophy but help itself to turn into one of these nameless ideas that could be misconstrued when given a name, like "prophecy" or "religion" or "a nice tool for survival" and just completely fall out of the realm of linear, or even abstract, thought? __________________ Yeah, well, you're just that awesome, I guess. It's not like I guessed so anyways.

07-06-2009, 12:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-...rs-really.html __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

07-06-2009, 07:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Skitto Crazy Location: Westernmost Continental U.S.	This is different, I think. __________________ Yeah, well, you're just that awesome, I guess. It's not like I guessed so anyways.

07-06-2009, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Meat matters. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

07-17-2009, 06:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
Iliftrocks Junkie Location: Near Raleigh, NC	Of course "it" matters, because that's why we have our philosophical paradigms to start with. "It" wouldn't matter outside of the context of philosophy, would it? Universally speaking, it wouldn't matter, but specifically to people who care enough to think about it, then yes it matters. But it is relative to whatever it is and to the people who care about it. __________________ bill hicks - "I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."

07-07-2009, 10:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	We're humans; philosophy comes with the territory. If we ever evolve away from it I don't think we'd resemble humans much anymore. It's like asking how we're conscious in the first place, no one really knows for sure.

07-16-2009, 02:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
lofhay Tilted Location: Charleston, SC	If we can ever figure out the answer to "What does it matter?", we can save ourselves a lot of time speculating and can move on to What do we do about it?

07-23-2009, 02:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Skitto Crazy Location: Westernmost Continental U.S.	Caveman say: lift rock... why it matter? Other caveman say: building door to keep out rain First caveman lift rock and make very good door. __________________ Yeah, well, you're just that awesome, I guess. It's not like I guessed so anyways.

07-23-2009, 09:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Iliftrocks Junkie Location: Near Raleigh, NC	It must matter, because you are asking about it. Cavemen just like rocks, to them rocks matter. __________________ bill hicks - "I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."