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Old 08-01-2009, 02:09 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Magneto has seen the true face of humankind, in the camps and afterwards.

The coward Xavier was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

Perhaps Magneto's experience has given him a more realistic view of the world.

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Old 08-01-2009, 02:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Magneto saw the worst of mankind and took it as the average. His mistake is one of perception. Had he taken the time to heal his emotional wounds, something Xavier could have helped him with had he actually trusted him, he could have gained the objectivity necessary to be a truly great leader. Had Charles and Magnus been a united front for mutant equality instead of constantly battling, it would have been better for the cause.
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:34 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Sometimes neutrality and equality are impossible.

If it is a choice between the fire and the fire truck, some people stand back and watch (ie - Xavier) and some people fight the fire (ie - Magneto)
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:11 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Sometimes they are impossible, but considering that several of the alternate futures in the Marvel universe include true peace and equality, the word "impossible" cannot apply.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:57 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Given Magneto's plan to kill all humans with the aid of a delusional/deceived Xavier, I would say that he is indeed bad, and that he had become exactly what he ran from as a child.

It is like the father that beats the son, because he learned by being beat as a child himself. Did he hate it as a child? Yes, and yet he perpetuates the anger and fear with his own son. So Magneto perpetuates the hate and genocide that he learned as a child. Both are wrong and have crossed any reasonable line that society could offer.

He talks to homo sapiens like a KKK member talks to a black man at a store. Polite conversation all while seething rage boils inside. He may not be pure evil, but IMO under no circumstances (or very few) is he good.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:49 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:32 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I just want to say... Rorschach... We see patterns and meanings in things in which they were not intended. But that doesn't make it any less true that we see them, does it?
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:38 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Will, I already liked you but after this you just went up a notch!

I think consciously it's a coincidence that he was written this way. Subconsciously though I believe all writers channel history and current events going on around them and they get reflected in the stories and characters. So I think it's very possible it was on purpose in a way.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:12 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I was forced to sit through Twilight recently and in order not to go slowly insane, I started to wonder if Twilight is an allegory for Israel and Palestine. Think about it.
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Old 11-14-2009, 01:30 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I was forced to sit through Twilight recently and in order not to go slowly insane, I started to wonder if Twilight is an allegory for Israel and Palestine. Think about it.
I just LOL'd for real.
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