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KellyC 07-17-2003 11:42 PM

if the information from the link: http://www.abacom.com/~jkrause/jesus.html is true, or even a tiniest part of it (Judas is Jesus' twin), what would it mean to christianity? I've denounce the worshipping of Jesus and God, but still, SHOCKED!! I am when I read the info from the link.

Podmore 07-21-2003 08:33 PM

Here you go: http://popularmechanics.com/science/...us/print.phtml

thephuse 07-22-2003 11:07 PM

seeing where most of his life takes place, i would say he is middle eastern... that's just my opin.

abelak 07-23-2003 07:12 AM

Does it really matter? If we stay arguing about what colour Jesus was then I think we're missing the point as to why he existed at all!!

tedrlord 07-24-2003 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by j_o_brown
Jesus WAS black. Jesus was NOT his real name. Period. We also know that he was NOT a Jew or a Christian.

Welcome to the wonderful world of misinformation brought to you by the 'Christians'. (specifically, the Roman Catholoc Church)

First, I have to say that this is an amusing post. But you are technically right about the name. Jesus' name was really Yeshua, which is the Hebrew equivalent of Jesus. It's like the difference between Peter, Piotr and Pierre. Same name, different languages.

Jonsgirl 07-24-2003 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by tedrlord
Jesus' name was really Yeshua, which is the Hebrew equivalent of Jesus. It's like the difference between Peter, Piotr and Pierre. Same name, different languages.
Thank you! I was beginning to think that no one would answer this! Is there somewhere that you know of that i can find out more about that?

Pellaz 07-24-2003 08:27 PM

Jesus the historical figure will never be known in complete. As a religous figure, accounts will never be homoginized. Arguments for an answer such as thephuses put forth, while logical, will still not solve the inherent problems of a hundred conflicting view points. An equal argument would be that jesus was native american in apperance, since he spent several years wandering N. America, according to some religions. The matter of race should not be important in the least when considering theological Jesus, and as for historical Jesus, well, he could of been anyone that the legend grew around.

hobo 07-24-2003 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by abelak
Does it really matter? If we stay arguing about what colour Jesus was then I think we're missing the point as to why he existed at all!!
Then why don't people admit that he looked average, and therefore looks like the picture in the popular mechanics link? Its the most likely truth isn't it? Wouldn't Christians want to look at an accurate portrait of the messiah's face? what he looks like obviously matters because his image is everywhere. It is even some people's idea of the perfect person.

tedrlord 07-27-2003 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Jonsgirl
Thank you! I was beginning to think that no one would answer this! Is there somewhere that you know of that i can find out more about that?
Find out about what, exactly? Jesus' Hebrew name? I can't remember where I had heard about it. I just like reading about religion and it's mentioned every so often.

If you're talking about general "I didn't know that" stuff about Jesus and Christianity, there are quite a few places to look. One of the most interesting traditional archives is the Catholic Encyclopedia at http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/. I'm not Catholic myself, but I still find it a good read. Now that I look at it, there's an interesting essay on Jesus' name at http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08374x.htm. I also really like Cecil Adams' http://www.straightdope.com, which is a general repository of knowledge, but if you look around a little you can find some pretty in-depth articles about the Bible and Christianity.

If what you're looking for is more along the lines of "stuff they don't want you to know," which the poster I originally quoted seems to have been into, I'd recommend doing a google search for "Christian quabalah" and "gnosticism." They're all about unusual mythology and ideas about Christianity. Personally, I don't hold them to be at all accurate, but they're quite fascinating topics nonetheless.

I'm sure there are a lot of good books on this kind of subject too if you look around at your local bookstore, but I can't think of any off-hand.

maxero 07-28-2003 12:20 AM

i think the simple answer is, if its all true, youll find out when you die or when he comes around again
if its all lies, then it doesnt matter anyway

stonecurran 07-28-2003 05:05 AM

well jesus was a jew and jews are what color?


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