Have you ever try to comprehend your nonexistence? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Jesus Pimp · 04-21-2003, 06:54 AM

Why can't your brain handle it? I always get a headache thinking about it.

CSflim · 04-21-2003, 07:14 AM

You brain finds it difficult to handle it because it had no need to evolve that way....obviously enough.

But yes, I have thought about nonexistence, and I have to say, that I am perfectly at ease with it. In fact I find it comforting.

In the words of Victor Mildrew
"The only thing I fear worse than death, is living forever".
This is a sentiment with which I totally agree.

sixate · 04-21-2003, 10:22 AM

I breathe, therefore I am. It's as simple as that.

phunktastic · 04-21-2003, 10:24 AM

I heard that if you try it too hard you'll dissapear.

ARTelevision · 04-21-2003, 10:25 AM

As I understand it half the time I'm here, I'm not here at all.
Things have an on-off quality at their core.
We can't imagine it because we are thinking about it wrongly.

sapiens · 04-21-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSflim
You brain finds it difficult to handle it because it had no need to evolve that way....obviously enough.

Exellent point. You took the words out of my mouth.

snowy · 04-21-2003, 11:53 AM

Nonexistence, to me, at one time or another, has been a comforting thought. Lately, however, the nonexistence of my fellow humans has been more comforting. It is a hard concept to wrap your head around, but sometimes it's enjoyable.

World's King · 04-21-2003, 12:01 PM

I've never really thought about it but now that you've braught it up I'm gonna be raddled all fucking day.

*puts head down*

Slims · 04-21-2003, 12:06 PM

Either it will happen or it won't
no use worrying about it.

Spungfoo · 04-21-2003, 12:11 PM

I've never put much thought into it. Never seen a reason to. Nonexistence is the complete abscence of anything, so why would I put energy into thinking about nothing?...

Mad_Gecko · 04-21-2003, 12:30 PM

Hmmm..

Nothing a drink can't cure.
"Never met a beer I couldn't like" - Norm

Zotz · 04-28-2003, 07:25 AM

It kinda freaks me out if I think about it too much.

Cynthetiq · 04-28-2003, 07:30 AM

nonexistence? you mean me no longer on the planet and part of the collective consciousness? easy to imagine...I've not been here before and I'll not be here again. A bit egotistical to think that I should be here forever or last somehow forever.

GreenCloud · 04-28-2003, 09:14 AM

i exist? really? are you sure?

rockogre · 04-28-2003, 09:20 AM

Either there is a plan for your existence or there isn't. Since you have little or no input you can only go with the flow just like the rest of the universe.

Better enjoy it while you got it.

orbital · 04-28-2003, 01:06 PM

Indeed. We cannot act on what we don't know, so let us act on what we do know. Make the best of our lives.

Hedgehog · 04-28-2003, 01:40 PM

Man cannot comprehend his own death. Thus, we invented Religion.

That's a paraphrase from Heinlein.

Personally, I think being under general anesthesia gives a pretty good impression of oblivion.

Kadath · 04-28-2003, 08:31 PM

Amen, Hedgehog. General anesthesia was the most peaceful moment of my life. I was there, and then I woke up somewhere else. I had no idea what happened in between. My not being here simply means my mind's not running a mile a minute about something I did two or six or ten years ago that still makes me cringe. It sounds like not a bad deal, and I'll be okay when it happens.

GakFace · 04-28-2003, 08:35 PM

I think about the abstract all the time.. Thats a fun one. Now by your nonexistance.. do you mean mine and only mine? Or as in if Humans never existed? As both are interesting. Its quite amazing to think of the difference that would be had I not left an impression on this world. I don't mean to be conceited, but thats one of the things you have to look it.. what WOULDN'T have been. Of course if i didn't exist my sisters would have always had their own room.. heh. Ugh i need to do my paper.. and yes, If i didn't exist I wouldn't be busy doing my english paper (which btw, plz go to my DL File Poll, I need to add it into the paper i'm about to write for wednesday

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hotzot · 04-28-2003, 10:23 PM

Thats why I had kids. A little piece of me continuing to fuck the planet well after I'm dead and buried.

robbo59au · 04-28-2003, 10:54 PM

I guess I've thought about it every so often, obviously in connection with that old chestnut, "what happens to you after you die". I's kind of a meaningless thing to do, if you think about it. If you don't exist, then you won't be around to see/experience the consequences anyway.
Kadath brought up general anasthesia, which was timely, but no-ones brought up sleep yet. Think about it. If you don't dream, or don't remember them, isn't plain, ordinary sleep like being non-existant too?

GakFace · 04-29-2003, 03:10 AM

This reminds me of the Monads.. After I finish my papers (gimmie till Wed nite.. ) I can TRY to explain them. If anyone here is philosophy buff, feel free to explain Monads to everyone else

ratbastid · 04-29-2003, 05:27 AM

If by "nonexistence" you mean death or something, then no, I've never tried to comprehend it, as I believe there's nothing to comprehend.

If by "nonexistence" you mean a state or position of being where the "I" that I "am" is not present, and what remains is a shell or core of being, then I attain that state frequently, and operate from there whenever possible. And it's always possible, just sometimes it's harder than other times.

gibber71 · 04-29-2003, 08:56 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedgehog
[B]Man cannot comprehend his own death. Thus, we invented Religion.

Good quote.Explains alot of things

Minus000 · 04-29-2003, 09:31 AM

I have. I think also though if I was given the option to live forever I would. If you found a way into space you could allow yourself to drift for millions of years and explore the universe. I imagine time would no longer have meaning and that it would become more a process of experiences that time progressing.

Grothendieck · 04-29-2003, 05:09 PM

Actually I don't understand the question.

Do you mean not being able to *imagine* myself not existing? I can do that very well... I look around, think about the other people I know or don't know, and just subtract myself... Presto, the world still exists, just as it will when I'm dead.

Or do you mean imagine me thinking, without having a brain to think with? That would be a contradiction, an impossibility.

Or, finally, are you asking about the riddle of us not being able to decide "for sure" whether we actually exist. In a "The Matrix2 kind of way. Which would be more about the question whether our world exists... But I don't think you asked about that topic.

Could you put your question more precisely, Jesus Pimp?

Eviltree · 04-29-2003, 07:51 PM

my brain hurts

queedo · 05-29-2003, 07:28 PM

We all exist as a group consciousness.

duckznutz · 05-30-2003, 08:20 AM

Is this question a bit like imagining that white rabbit James Stewart used to hang around with? I think it non-existed too.

Children invent non-existing imaginary friends. Some of my best friends non-exist, and I used to non exist many years ago but I dont remember much about it.

Killconey · 05-30-2003, 08:36 AM

I'm reminded of the end of Ghostbusters when the Destroyer's form was to be chosen and the only solution was to think of nothing. Is it possible to comprehend the infinite mystery that is nothingness? So far, human philosophy and theology has failed miserably on that subject and we've done everything in our power to deny the fact that one day we'll be gone. Personally, the concept of eternity and nothingness blows my mind. Still, I can't help but think that maybe being nothing would be restful.

04-21-2003, 06:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	Have you ever try to comprehend your nonexistence? Why can't your brain handle it? I always get a headache thinking about it. __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

04-21-2003, 07:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	You brain finds it difficult to handle it because it had no need to evolve that way....obviously enough. But yes, I have thought about nonexistence, and I have to say, that I am perfectly at ease with it. In fact I find it comforting. In the words of Victor Mildrew "The only thing I fear worse than death, is living forever". This is a sentiment with which I totally agree. __________________

04-21-2003, 10:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
phunktastic Insane Location: Dayton, Ohio	I heard that if you try it too hard you'll dissapear. __________________ "Relax, the world will spin beside itself and suck you in. With threats and hopes beyond compare"

04-21-2003, 10:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	As I understand it half the time I'm here, I'm not here at all. Things have an on-off quality at their core. We can't imagine it because we are thinking about it wrongly. __________________ create evolution

04-21-2003, 11:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	Nonexistence, to me, at one time or another, has been a comforting thought. Lately, however, the nonexistence of my fellow humans has been more comforting. It is a hard concept to wrap your head around, but sometimes it's enjoyable. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

04-21-2003, 10:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	I breathe, therefore I am. It's as simple as that.

04-21-2003, 12:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	I've never really thought about it but now that you've braught it up I'm gonna be raddled all fucking day. puts head down __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

04-21-2003, 12:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	Either it will happen or it won't no use worrying about it. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

04-21-2003, 12:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Spungfoo Insane Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I've never put much thought into it. Never seen a reason to. Nonexistence is the complete abscence of anything, so why would I put energy into thinking about nothing?...

04-21-2003, 12:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mad_Gecko Pro Libertate Location: City Gecko	Hmmm.. Nothing a drink can't cure. "Never met a beer I couldn't like" - Norm __________________ [color=bright blue]W[/color]e Stick To Glass "If three of us travel together, I shall find two teachers." Confucious

04-28-2003, 07:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
Zotz There's someone in my head, but its not me	It kinda freaks me out if I think about it too much.

04-28-2003, 07:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	nonexistence? you mean me no longer on the planet and part of the collective consciousness? easy to imagine...I've not been here before and I'll not be here again. A bit egotistical to think that I should be here forever or last somehow forever. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

04-28-2003, 09:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
GreenCloud Insane Location: Boone, NC	i exist? really? are you sure? __________________ "Boy, I like that echo... goes right through my head... I had that happen once, but it was chemically induced...." - Steve Earle

04-28-2003, 09:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
rockogre I aim to misbehave! Location: SW Oklahoma	Either there is a plan for your existence or there isn't. Since you have little or no input you can only go with the flow just like the rest of the universe. Better enjoy it while you got it. __________________ Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

04-28-2003, 01:06 PM	#16 (permalink)
orbital Upright	Indeed. We cannot act on what we don't know, so let us act on what we do know. Make the best of our lives.

04-29-2003, 07:51 PM	#27 (permalink)
Eviltree Psycho Location: British Columbia	my brain hurts

04-28-2003, 01:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
Hedgehog Crazy Location: Charlotte, NC	Man cannot comprehend his own death. Thus, we invented Religion. That's a paraphrase from Heinlein. Personally, I think being under general anesthesia gives a pretty good impression of oblivion. __________________ Wait a minute! Where am I, and why am I in this handbasket?

04-28-2003, 08:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	Amen, Hedgehog. General anesthesia was the most peaceful moment of my life. I was there, and then I woke up somewhere else. I had no idea what happened in between. My not being here simply means my mind's not running a mile a minute about something I did two or six or ten years ago that still makes me cringe. It sounds like not a bad deal, and I'll be okay when it happens. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-28-2003, 08:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	I think about the abstract all the time.. Thats a fun one. Now by your nonexistance.. do you mean mine and only mine? Or as in if Humans never existed? As both are interesting. Its quite amazing to think of the difference that would be had I not left an impression on this world. I don't mean to be conceited, but thats one of the things you have to look it.. what WOULDN'T have been. Of course if i didn't exist my sisters would have always had their own room.. heh. Ugh i need to do my paper.. and yes, If i didn't exist I wouldn't be busy doing my english paper (which btw, plz go to my DL File Poll, I need to add it into the paper i'm about to write for wednesday ) __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

04-28-2003, 10:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
hotzot We're having potato pancakes! Location: stalag 13	Thats why I had kids. A little piece of me continuing to fuck the planet well after I'm dead and buried. __________________ The Bully Boys are here!

04-28-2003, 10:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
robbo59au Upright Location: Brisbane, Australia	I guess I've thought about it every so often, obviously in connection with that old chestnut, "what happens to you after you die". I's kind of a meaningless thing to do, if you think about it. If you don't exist, then you won't be around to see/experience the consequences anyway. Kadath brought up general anasthesia, which was timely, but no-ones brought up sleep yet. Think about it. If you don't dream, or don't remember them, isn't plain, ordinary sleep like being non-existant too? __________________ 'These aren't the droids you're looking for'

04-29-2003, 03:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	This reminds me of the Monads.. After I finish my papers (gimmie till Wed nite.. ) I can TRY to explain them. If anyone here is philosophy buff, feel free to explain Monads to everyone else __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

04-29-2003, 05:27 AM	#23 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	If by "nonexistence" you mean death or something, then no, I've never tried to comprehend it, as I believe there's nothing to comprehend. If by "nonexistence" you mean a state or position of being where the "I" that I "am" is not present, and what remains is a shell or core of being, then I attain that state frequently, and operate from there whenever possible. And it's always possible, just sometimes it's harder than other times.

04-29-2003, 08:56 AM	#24 (permalink)
gibber71 Loser	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hedgehog [B]Man cannot comprehend his own death. Thus, we invented Religion. Good quote.Explains alot of things

04-29-2003, 09:31 AM	#25 (permalink)
Minus000 Banned	I have. I think also though if I was given the option to live forever I would. If you found a way into space you could allow yourself to drift for millions of years and explore the universe. I imagine time would no longer have meaning and that it would become more a process of experiences that time progressing.

04-29-2003, 05:09 PM	#26 (permalink)
Grothendieck Crazy Location: Switzerland	Actually I don't understand the question. Do you mean not being able to imagine myself not existing? I can do that very well... I look around, think about the other people I know or don't know, and just subtract myself... Presto, the world still exists, just as it will when I'm dead. Or do you mean imagine me thinking, without having a brain to think with? That would be a contradiction, an impossibility. Or, finally, are you asking about the riddle of us not being able to decide "for sure" whether we actually exist. In a "The Matrix2 kind of way. Which would be more about the question whether our world exists... But I don't think you asked about that topic. Could you put your question more precisely, Jesus Pimp? __________________ Didn't remember how intense love could be... Thank you B.

05-29-2003, 07:28 PM	#28 (permalink)
queedo Shodan	We all exist as a group consciousness. __________________ If you think you can or you can't, you are right!

05-30-2003, 08:20 AM	#29 (permalink)
duckznutz Addict Location: Brook Cottage, Lanark, Scotland	Is this question a bit like imagining that white rabbit James Stewart used to hang around with? I think it non-existed too. Children invent non-existing imaginary friends. Some of my best friends non-exist, and I used to non exist many years ago but I dont remember much about it. __________________ Where your talents and the needs of the world cross . . there lies your vocation.

05-30-2003, 08:36 AM	#30 (permalink)
Killconey Crazy Location: Various places in the Midwest, all depending on when I'm posting.	I'm reminded of the end of Ghostbusters when the Destroyer's form was to be chosen and the only solution was to think of nothing. Is it possible to comprehend the infinite mystery that is nothingness? So far, human philosophy and theology has failed miserably on that subject and we've done everything in our power to deny the fact that one day we'll be gone. Personally, the concept of eternity and nothingness blows my mind. Still, I can't help but think that maybe being nothing would be restful. __________________ Look out for numbers two and up and they'll look out for you.