Ustwo

You know, as I teach my son right now that if he blows himself up in the name of Democracy there will be 70 virgins waiting for him, I can only concede your point.

As the great Patton said,

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. "

I'd also add that their nationalism is tied directly into their religion. So you can claim is nationalism that makes someone drive a car full of explosives into a town square and blow himself up killing 100's of innocents if you like.

Edit: Though to put this in the light of the topic at hand, those murders were the act of God, as those who were murdered was God, as was the car for that matter. So its a cosmic wash.

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DaveOrion

Your sarcasm only speaks to the Muslim extremists, and since that seems to be your only argument I can only assume you're ignoring the rest of the world.

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Borgs

You misunderstood my post.

Baraka_Guru

They aren't alone.

I Pledge Allegiance To The Flag,
Of the United States of America,
And To the Republic For Which It Stands,
One Nation, Under God, Indivisible,
With Liberty And Justice For All

"We take the stars from Heaven, the red from our mother country, separating it by white stripes, thus showing that we have separated from her, and the white stripes shall go down to posterity representing Liberty." -George Washington


God bless the land that gave us birth!
No pray'r but this know we.
God bless the land, of all the earth,
The happy and the free.
And where's the land like ours can brave
The splendor of the day.
And find no son of hers a slave?
God bless America!
God bless the land, the land beloved
Forever and for aye!
God bless the land that gave us birth.
God bless America!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our Trust"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
—From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

Plan9

What about Canada's "theme song"?

(looks this up)

Yeah, they're like 85% less god-oriented than the US.

Seems the use of "god"... the name is often taken in vain.

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Whatever you can carry.

"You should not drink... and bake."

loganmule

God is whatever you think, and is as real as you are.

Ustwo

I already pointed out that we use religion in the US as well as a tool of violence, but the difference is that we have at least attempted to keep it out of the laws directly. Something that is not done in most Islamic countries.

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Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

Borgs

God is whatever we don't think, as fake as we are.

Plan9

When I think about god... "...I think about a little girl in a pink dress... sticking a hotdog through a donut." - Creighton Duke, fictional bountyhunter

Now THAT has to be proof of god being us.

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Whatever you can carry.

"You should not drink... and bake."

Ourcrazymodern?

So then, the concensus seems to be that we ARE god!

THANK YOU, GOD!!!!!!!!!

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DaveOrion

Thank God, Amen. Good to have that settled.

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tecoyah

Try this:


1) Close your eyes





2) imagine in your mind, what you see as God






3) focus on that image...see it






































You are right, that is god

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Plan9

Still saw the pink dress, chief.

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Whatever you can carry.

"You should not drink... and bake."

Ourcrazymodern?

Uh-oh!

Our evolution doesn't involve pink dresses, though they are stimulating.

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