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mojodragon · 03-02-2006, 09:32 PM

I think all kids above 12 or so should watch these.

http://www.montanameth.org/ads_television.aspx

analog · 03-02-2006, 10:15 PM

Scare tactic stuff like this works on a very small percentage of kids. Taking a poll of kids on "how many of you will do this drug after watching this video" doesn't factor in the role of peer pressure, which is the biggest culprit. Kids aren't sold on the "benefits" of the drugs- Kids don't understand euphoria before they take drugs, they don't understand what "getting high" is- all they know is, someone they think is cool is telling them to try something, which will then make them cool... or if they don't, a loser. They need to learn about peer pressure and how to say no early on- well before they're the ages of the kids in these depictions.

Scare tactic stuff like this is halfway decent as a visual aid to describe the gruesome generalities of succumbing to peer pressure, but an actual sit-down-and-talk-to-them approach is king. The main issue with these things, is some parents will simply show the vid and say "see? so don't do it." and that doesn't teach a kid anything.

Bryndian_Dhai · 03-02-2006, 10:50 PM

I think the scare tactics work best on the adults. My favorite ad campaign is the "Who What When Where" ads... the ones about knowing about your kid, and asking (and requiring answers) about their plans and activities and such.

As a former meth addict, I can say that the key to not getting addicted in the first place is a good foundation for saying no. I didn't have it. And a lot of my peers didn't either.

Ustwo · 03-03-2006, 10:12 AM

Fucking meth addicts are why I can't buy god damn sinus pills without filling out a god damn form so the god damn congress can feel they are cutting down on the god damn problem even though I don't see it doing a god damn thing.

Jinn · 03-03-2006, 10:24 AM

Wow Ustwo, lol

And see analog, I agree and disagree again. Scare tactics pissed me off, especially when I was of the age that this wouldn't mattered. It was like "honestly, you're going to draw a correlation between this drug and everything single bad thing arent you." Even those "responsibility, my anti-drug" commercials piss me off. It's like no.. you aren't going to guilt me into not doing it by showing me all these far-fetched horror stories of what COULD happen. The first meth commercial on the website that I watched with the girl in the shower, I was like "WTF?" that doesn't even do anything but piss me off.

So I agree with you there.

However, it isn't peer pressure education that would have stopped me. I would have been just as pissed if someone tried to teach me that I shouldn't listen to my peers when they advocate something bad for me. I had that down.

The only thing that would (and did) help me is to see the ACADEMICS of it. Show me the effected parts of the brain; show me the serotonin changes; show me the sympathetic nervous system response. Show me what the heart does or how the blood pressure changes, and tell me about the problems this causes.

Not doing something because "my peers are pressuring me, but I shouldn't because it's bad" would never work for me. I think "peer pressure" education would be educating you on just how bad it is. Then when they offer you meth, you can tell them exactly what it does to your nervous system and why you don't want it. And in the process, you might convince someone else that it's not worth doing themselves. (Dare to dream)

Jinn · 03-03-2006, 10:26 AM

I just watched a few more of those videos, and it's like.. WTF?

So meth makes me have random ass cuts all over my face, poor, and beating up little babies in a laundromat? Stop lying to me about what "could happen" and tell me what "does happen."

Bill O'Rights · 03-03-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

Fucking meth addicts are why I can't buy god damn sinus pills without filling out a god damn form so the god damn congress can feel they are cutting down on the god damn problem even though I don't see it doing a god damn thing.

Tell us how you really feel, Ustwo.

Actually, this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself in your camp. You see...I, too, suffer from sinus problems. I, too, must jump through dozens of hoops, just to able to obtain a little medication that might actually do me some good. I, too, curse those "damn meth-heads" that have caused me unnecessary grief.

Although...the State of Nebraska tells me that my sacrifice is paying off. They tell me that there are far fewer meth labs in operation than there were before all of the restrictions. I don't care. I WANT MY SUDAFED

Bryndian_Dhai · 03-03-2006, 11:50 AM

My husband has horrid sinuses and buying his drugs at the store is one of those things that are like little penances to remind me why its important to stay clean. (11 years and counting)

I can tell you that limitations on buying cold meds isn't stopping the problem. And it is pissing off the rest of the population, and REALLY making pharmacists' jobs much more difficult.

Does anyone remember the "This is your brain, This is your brain on drugs" commercials? Those just cracked me up, and didn't do anything to discourage my experiments back in the day.

analog · 03-04-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JinnKai

The only thing that would (and did) help me is to see the ACADEMICS of it. Show me the effected parts of the brain; show me the serotonin changes; show me the sympathetic nervous system response. Show me what the heart does or how the blood pressure changes, and tell me about the problems this causes.

You're in a wonderful, but TEENY minority. Most kids want nothing to do with "facts". And good peer pressure education is far from "don't listen to your friends". For my part, I would toss the "facts" in with it, just to fully round out the education, and also in case the child is one of those few who are receptive to the numbers that show the damage.

CSflim · 03-05-2006, 07:19 AM

I don't think that kids take drugs in spite of the danger associated with them, but largely because of it.

Astrocloud · 03-05-2006, 10:54 AM

For the record, I've done meth. I found it -not quite as addictive as alcohol and not quite my thing. As an escapist... I think I've tried most mainstream drugs. None of them really got me to where I want to be. Shit I smoked ICE which -really makes your heart race and your voice crack. As far as the thrill and the addictiveness -whoopie.

All in all, I think that the anti-drug culture is as much of a sham as the drug culture is. It seems like some sort of bizarro religion to me. Worse still, the anti-drug culture relies on the drug culture for much of their converts and funding.

Once in 1988 I went to NA. A psychologist found out that I was doing drugs and strongly recommended it. The NA counselor who I met there was chain smoking cigarettes and drinking a HUGE cup of coffee. He was rambling on LIKE he was on drugs (well, besides nicotine and caffeine). It was really a turn off and I didn't go back. Later I fired that psychologist. The next psychologist recommended that I stop doing the harder, more dangerous drugs. So, I stopped. That's it -no drama; just stop.

As far as the scare tactics... There were a number of anti-drug commercials back in 1988. They honestly made me -"the escapist"; wonder what the big deal was. In other words the anti-drug propaganda made me want to try the drugs they were against.

skinnymofo · 03-05-2006, 12:00 PM

i think the only true way to keep kids away from meth is to show them the addicts that are the same age and slightly older than them.
You see a kid argueing with people at safeway registers with meth lesions all over their necks trying to get 2 or more bottles of robotussin.
just think about those gross things and seeing them in person should be more than a enough.
that shit is gross.
and as a side note, i think its good they stopped with most of the pot ads that were completely rediculous, such as running over a kid at mcdonalds and shooting friends and raping eachother.
the one with the chick who just sits there its probably the most acurate they will ever get, and it will go over the heads of everyone its aimed at.

ASU2003 · 03-05-2006, 12:14 PM

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/

PBS had a good show on meth, and having kids watch that would do more than a few commercials. PBS explained why people do it and ow it effects the brain. At the sme time showing photos of people when they started meth and a few years later.

I actually didn't know what meth was until I was 20 and a girl in my college chemistry class said she had been addicted for 3 years and clean for 2. And I asked "What's meth?" I led a sheltered life growing up.

03-02-2006, 09:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
mojodragon Darth Mojo Location: Right behind you...	Very Strong Anti-Meth Commercials I think all kids above 12 or so should watch these. http://www.montanameth.org/ads_television.aspx

03-02-2006, 10:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
analog Banned	Scare tactic stuff like this works on a very small percentage of kids. Taking a poll of kids on "how many of you will do this drug after watching this video" doesn't factor in the role of peer pressure, which is the biggest culprit. Kids aren't sold on the "benefits" of the drugs- Kids don't understand euphoria before they take drugs, they don't understand what "getting high" is- all they know is, someone they think is cool is telling them to try something, which will then make them cool... or if they don't, a loser. They need to learn about peer pressure and how to say no early on- well before they're the ages of the kids in these depictions. Scare tactic stuff like this is halfway decent as a visual aid to describe the gruesome generalities of succumbing to peer pressure, but an actual sit-down-and-talk-to-them approach is king. The main issue with these things, is some parents will simply show the vid and say "see? so don't do it." and that doesn't teach a kid anything. Last edited by analog; 03-02-2006 at 10:20 PM..

03-02-2006, 10:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bryndian_Dhai Insane Location: Louisiana	I think the scare tactics work best on the adults. My favorite ad campaign is the "Who What When Where" ads... the ones about knowing about your kid, and asking (and requiring answers) about their plans and activities and such. As a former meth addict, I can say that the key to not getting addicted in the first place is a good foundation for saying no. I didn't have it. And a lot of my peers didn't either. __________________ “When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” ~Sinclair Lewis

03-03-2006, 10:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Fucking meth addicts are why I can't buy god damn sinus pills without filling out a god damn form so the god damn congress can feel they are cutting down on the god damn problem even though I don't see it doing a god damn thing. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

03-03-2006, 10:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	Wow Ustwo, lol And see analog, I agree and disagree again. Scare tactics pissed me off, especially when I was of the age that this wouldn't mattered. It was like "honestly, you're going to draw a correlation between this drug and everything single bad thing arent you." Even those "responsibility, my anti-drug" commercials piss me off. It's like no.. you aren't going to guilt me into not doing it by showing me all these far-fetched horror stories of what COULD happen. The first meth commercial on the website that I watched with the girl in the shower, I was like "WTF?" that doesn't even do anything but piss me off. So I agree with you there. However, it isn't peer pressure education that would have stopped me. I would have been just as pissed if someone tried to teach me that I shouldn't listen to my peers when they advocate something bad for me. I had that down. The only thing that would (and did) help me is to see the ACADEMICS of it. Show me the effected parts of the brain; show me the serotonin changes; show me the sympathetic nervous system response. Show me what the heart does or how the blood pressure changes, and tell me about the problems this causes. Not doing something because "my peers are pressuring me, but I shouldn't because it's bad" would never work for me. I think "peer pressure" education would be educating you on just how bad it is. Then when they offer you meth, you can tell them exactly what it does to your nervous system and why you don't want it. And in the process, you might convince someone else that it's not worth doing themselves. (Dare to dream) __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

03-03-2006, 10:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	I just watched a few more of those videos, and it's like.. WTF? So meth makes me have random ass cuts all over my face, poor, and beating up little babies in a laundromat? Stop lying to me about what "could happen" and tell me what "does happen." __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

03-03-2006, 11:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bryndian_Dhai Insane Location: Louisiana	My husband has horrid sinuses and buying his drugs at the store is one of those things that are like little penances to remind me why its important to stay clean. (11 years and counting) I can tell you that limitations on buying cold meds isn't stopping the problem. And it is pissing off the rest of the population, and REALLY making pharmacists' jobs much more difficult. Does anyone remember the "This is your brain, This is your brain on drugs" commercials? Those just cracked me up, and didn't do anything to discourage my experiments back in the day. __________________ “When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” ~Sinclair Lewis

03-05-2006, 07:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	I don't think that kids take drugs in spite of the danger associated with them, but largely because of it. __________________

03-05-2006, 10:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	For the record, I've done meth. I found it -not quite as addictive as alcohol and not quite my thing. As an escapist... I think I've tried most mainstream drugs. None of them really got me to where I want to be. Shit I smoked ICE which -really makes your heart race and your voice crack. As far as the thrill and the addictiveness -whoopie. All in all, I think that the anti-drug culture is as much of a sham as the drug culture is. It seems like some sort of bizarro religion to me. Worse still, the anti-drug culture relies on the drug culture for much of their converts and funding. Once in 1988 I went to NA. A psychologist found out that I was doing drugs and strongly recommended it. The NA counselor who I met there was chain smoking cigarettes and drinking a HUGE cup of coffee. He was rambling on LIKE he was on drugs (well, besides nicotine and caffeine). It was really a turn off and I didn't go back. Later I fired that psychologist. The next psychologist recommended that I stop doing the harder, more dangerous drugs. So, I stopped. That's it -no drama; just stop. As far as the scare tactics... There were a number of anti-drug commercials back in 1988. They honestly made me -"the escapist"; wonder what the big deal was. In other words the anti-drug propaganda made me want to try the drugs they were against.

03-05-2006, 12:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
skinnymofo Addict ed to smack Location: Seattle	i think the only true way to keep kids away from meth is to show them the addicts that are the same age and slightly older than them. You see a kid argueing with people at safeway registers with meth lesions all over their necks trying to get 2 or more bottles of robotussin. just think about those gross things and seeing them in person should be more than a enough. that shit is gross. and as a side note, i think its good they stopped with most of the pot ads that were completely rediculous, such as running over a kid at mcdonalds and shooting friends and raping eachother. the one with the chick who just sits there its probably the most acurate they will ever get, and it will go over the heads of everyone its aimed at.

03-05-2006, 12:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
ASU2003 immoral minority Location: Back in Ohio	http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/ PBS had a good show on meth, and having kids watch that would do more than a few commercials. PBS explained why people do it and ow it effects the brain. At the sme time showing photos of people when they started meth and a few years later. I actually didn't know what meth was until I was 20 and a girl in my college chemistry class said she had been addicted for 3 years and clean for 2. And I asked "What's meth?" I led a sheltered life growing up.