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mojodragon 03-02-2006 09:32 PM

Very Strong Anti-Meth Commercials
 
I think all kids above 12 or so should watch these.

http://www.montanameth.org/ads_television.aspx

analog 03-02-2006 10:15 PM

Scare tactic stuff like this works on a very small percentage of kids. Taking a poll of kids on "how many of you will do this drug after watching this video" doesn't factor in the role of peer pressure, which is the biggest culprit. Kids aren't sold on the "benefits" of the drugs- Kids don't understand euphoria before they take drugs, they don't understand what "getting high" is- all they know is, someone they think is cool is telling them to try something, which will then make them cool... or if they don't, a loser. They need to learn about peer pressure and how to say no early on- well before they're the ages of the kids in these depictions.

Scare tactic stuff like this is halfway decent as a visual aid to describe the gruesome generalities of succumbing to peer pressure, but an actual sit-down-and-talk-to-them approach is king. The main issue with these things, is some parents will simply show the vid and say "see? so don't do it." and that doesn't teach a kid anything.

Bryndian_Dhai 03-02-2006 10:50 PM

I think the scare tactics work best on the adults. My favorite ad campaign is the "Who What When Where" ads... the ones about knowing about your kid, and asking (and requiring answers) about their plans and activities and such.

As a former meth addict, I can say that the key to not getting addicted in the first place is a good foundation for saying no. I didn't have it. And a lot of my peers didn't either.

Ustwo 03-03-2006 10:12 AM

Fucking meth addicts are why I can't buy god damn sinus pills without filling out a god damn form so the god damn congress can feel they are cutting down on the god damn problem even though I don't see it doing a god damn thing.

Jinn 03-03-2006 10:24 AM

Wow Ustwo, lol :)

And see analog, I agree and disagree again. Scare tactics pissed me off, especially when I was of the age that this wouldn't mattered. It was like "honestly, you're going to draw a correlation between this drug and everything single bad thing arent you." Even those "responsibility, my anti-drug" commercials piss me off. It's like no.. you aren't going to guilt me into not doing it by showing me all these far-fetched horror stories of what COULD happen. The first meth commercial on the website that I watched with the girl in the shower, I was like "WTF?" that doesn't even do anything but piss me off.

So I agree with you there.

However, it isn't peer pressure education that would have stopped me. I would have been just as pissed if someone tried to teach me that I shouldn't listen to my peers when they advocate something bad for me. I had that down.

The only thing that would (and did) help me is to see the ACADEMICS of it. Show me the effected parts of the brain; show me the serotonin changes; show me the sympathetic nervous system response. Show me what the heart does or how the blood pressure changes, and tell me about the problems this causes.

Not doing something because "my peers are pressuring me, but I shouldn't because it's bad" would never work for me. I think "peer pressure" education would be educating you on just how bad it is. Then when they offer you meth, you can tell them exactly what it does to your nervous system and why you don't want it. And in the process, you might convince someone else that it's not worth doing themselves. (Dare to dream)

Jinn 03-03-2006 10:26 AM

I just watched a few more of those videos, and it's like.. WTF?

So meth makes me have random ass cuts all over my face, poor, and beating up little babies in a laundromat? Stop lying to me about what "could happen" and tell me what "does happen."

Bill O'Rights 03-03-2006 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
Fucking meth addicts are why I can't buy god damn sinus pills without filling out a god damn form so the god damn congress can feel they are cutting down on the god damn problem even though I don't see it doing a god damn thing.

Tell us how you really feel, Ustwo. :lol:

Actually, this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself in your camp. You see...I, too, suffer from sinus problems. I, too, must jump through dozens of hoops, just to able to obtain a little medication that might actually do me some good. I, too, curse those "damn meth-heads" that have caused me unnecessary grief.

Although...the State of Nebraska tells me that my sacrifice is paying off. They tell me that there are far fewer meth labs in operation than there were before all of the restrictions. I don't care. I WANT MY SUDAFED

Bryndian_Dhai 03-03-2006 11:50 AM

My husband has horrid sinuses and buying his drugs at the store is one of those things that are like little penances to remind me why its important to stay clean. (11 years and counting)

I can tell you that limitations on buying cold meds isn't stopping the problem. And it is pissing off the rest of the population, and REALLY making pharmacists' jobs much more difficult.

Does anyone remember the "This is your brain, This is your brain on drugs" commercials? Those just cracked me up, and didn't do anything to discourage my experiments back in the day.

analog 03-04-2006 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JinnKai
The only thing that would (and did) help me is to see the ACADEMICS of it. Show me the effected parts of the brain; show me the serotonin changes; show me the sympathetic nervous system response. Show me what the heart does or how the blood pressure changes, and tell me about the problems this causes.

You're in a wonderful, but TEENY minority. Most kids want nothing to do with "facts". And good peer pressure education is far from "don't listen to your friends". For my part, I would toss the "facts" in with it, just to fully round out the education, and also in case the child is one of those few who are receptive to the numbers that show the damage.

CSflim 03-05-2006 07:19 AM

I don't think that kids take drugs in spite of the danger associated with them, but largely because of it.

Astrocloud 03-05-2006 10:54 AM

For the record, I've done meth. I found it -not quite as addictive as alcohol and not quite my thing. As an escapist... I think I've tried most mainstream drugs. None of them really got me to where I want to be. Shit I smoked ICE which -really makes your heart race and your voice crack. As far as the thrill and the addictiveness -whoopie.

All in all, I think that the anti-drug culture is as much of a sham as the drug culture is. It seems like some sort of bizarro religion to me. Worse still, the anti-drug culture relies on the drug culture for much of their converts and funding.

Once in 1988 I went to NA. A psychologist found out that I was doing drugs and strongly recommended it. The NA counselor who I met there was chain smoking cigarettes and drinking a HUGE cup of coffee. He was rambling on LIKE he was on drugs (well, besides nicotine and caffeine). It was really a turn off and I didn't go back. Later I fired that psychologist. The next psychologist recommended that I stop doing the harder, more dangerous drugs. So, I stopped. That's it -no drama; just stop.

As far as the scare tactics... There were a number of anti-drug commercials back in 1988. They honestly made me -"the escapist"; wonder what the big deal was. In other words the anti-drug propaganda made me want to try the drugs they were against.

skinnymofo 03-05-2006 12:00 PM

i think the only true way to keep kids away from meth is to show them the addicts that are the same age and slightly older than them.
You see a kid argueing with people at safeway registers with meth lesions all over their necks trying to get 2 or more bottles of robotussin.
just think about those gross things and seeing them in person should be more than a enough.
that shit is gross.
and as a side note, i think its good they stopped with most of the pot ads that were completely rediculous, such as running over a kid at mcdonalds and shooting friends and raping eachother.
the one with the chick who just sits there its probably the most acurate they will ever get, and it will go over the heads of everyone its aimed at.

ASU2003 03-05-2006 12:14 PM

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/

PBS had a good show on meth, and having kids watch that would do more than a few commercials. PBS explained why people do it and ow it effects the brain. At the sme time showing photos of people when they started meth and a few years later.

I actually didn't know what meth was until I was 20 and a girl in my college chemistry class said she had been addicted for 3 years and clean for 2. And I asked "What's meth?" I led a sheltered life growing up.


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