Ganggreen

to be honest, i'm really looking for what christians have to say about this. but would welcome hearing from anyone. i know the bible says he will reign on earth for a time. but HOW exactly will he get everyone to take the mark of the beast? how will he manipulate the whole world into doing that? i have my own theories, but am curious as to what others think. undefinedundefined

Ganggreen

Just to emphasize, i am looking for a tangible, realistic scenaroi of how its going to happen. in other words, how would YOU do it if you were the anti-christ?

teh peace fr0g

He'lll be voted into power by the Supreme Court.

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They say he is supposed to come in the guise of a peacemaker. So chances are he'll unite the world in some way through peace, and people will think he is the real christ come again and follow him, or just think "hey this is a great guy" and do what he says or make him leader.

..and he may already be here oO0OOooo00OOO0o00ooOooOooo..

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samcol

Basically what ObieX said. He will be a peacemaker bringing people together under a world government. Maybe after a nuclear holocaust or devastating plagues and natural disasters.

stevo

Or maybe he will be the first working clone or bionic man with a computer in his brain. he will have all the answeres and everyone will listen to him, for afterall he is a scientific success, the perfect human, smarter than all the rest. something will happen on june 6, 2066 and he will reign for 666 years. It will be possible since he'll have science on his side. But when he outlaws religion God will come down and smite everyone. What am I typing? I need to get back to work.

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sub zero

Well I might be able to chime in, especially depending on which ex girlfriend, some might say I am the anti christ...
In all seriousness though I think it will happen economicallly. You will have the formation of a world government, something like the United Nations but with more concrete power. Once they are stabalized they will begin to consolidate power by offering to solve several of the world's problems, specifically hunger and poverty. How can they solve that you may ask, be alotting everyone in the world a specific amount of currency to buy neccesary items. Well how can they grant different currency world wide, by making one world wide currency. After this occurs we have to keep track of who spends how much, how else to do that than to create a world ID. Of course no one gets anything for free so to get access to this money you have to be in a nation that will accept to give up its currency for the world currency. Any nations that hold out will be seen as bad and an enemy of the world.
With sanctions those last nations will eventually give up and join the world nation with their world currency. Some years for sake of convience all money will become electronic and eventually be offered as a credit card or even a computer chip installed on your hand.
I know kinda wierd but this really sounds like the most plausible to me at least.

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Uncle Pony

So he'll be European then?

air45

i am not positive on anti-christ, but i am think he wear sunglasses to make young people think he is cool and having good fashion.

Ganggreen

YA...DAS ES GOOD!!

hunnychile

...as for the mark of the Beast, that will happen when our government makes us wear tiny inbedded chips under our skin for "identification purposes".

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Noobius

Have you ever seen an anime called berserk? The perfect leader, and his destiny is to be turned into the Spawn of all daemons. To forsake his companions and pave the road to his Ultimate kingship using bodies as cobblestones. It could be taken that way, but I am in the belief that If you look at politics, we already have an antichrist in the form of the US president, he has already done everything to qualify himself as such.

anyways, these are ramblings of a single being, for all I know I may be the antichrist, but time will tell, the anti-christ is a decree of the christian god, if it wasn't it wouldn't exist.
Lucifer still works for god, or he could not exist. This is all gods doing, or it wouldn't be so, From a quasi christian point of view.

vermin

According to at least one branch of Lutheranism, the office of the papacy is the anti-christ. Not any one pope in particular, but the whole idea of an earthly man claiming infallibility and other God-like attributes.

There's also room to debate whether the mark of the beast is six hundred sixty-six or just a string of numbers (possibly serial numbers on currency, or credit card numbers, bank account numbers, etc.) that seems to starve those not in possesion of it.

Not to highjack things but the book of Revelations makes for a very interesting read if you take all the poetic imagery literally. Like science fiction only weirder. But of course, since it's God's word, it's all gonna happen. (time to stock up on insect spray)

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Noobius

I love your point of view, I think I have something to add to it.

all the numbers in the world that we currently have counted on all bank tellers and money exchange records.. so and so untill we reach the end, what would happen If we add them all up? would that equal our countdown to that day? And I would love to study the book of revelations, I am just a novice on what the heck it is, or where to find it, not to sound stupid...

there are more planes of existance, so we should not worry about an antichrist, I mean, of course, do anything you can think of to prevent, but mainly, i think gods plan is for you to worry about your own growth and help the growth of others. and to stunt the growth, like we have been doing, is something wrong to do.

iblade

Wait, if the anti christ manages to solve world poverty and brings peace to earth, isn't he just a great guy?

hrandani

Shhh, iblade. That's the devil talking.

iblade

Anyone evr read Nietszche's "Antichrist"?

Astrocloud

He was put into power by the Supreme Court.

Gatorade Frost

But then he wouldn't be a peace maker?

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onewolf

He'll run for office touting his ability to bridge parties and be a compassionate conservative.

psicon

From what I understand there is a certain seat number on the europeian union that he will occupy. When that seat is filled you got your man.

lostsoul1052

For the little I know I think the anti Christ will slip into power at a time when all the people of this world see him as the least evil politician

Johnny Rotten

No, but he does carry one slung low on his hip.

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Daoust

So much for trying to have a serious conversation about this...

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Prophecy

If that was all he did then the answer to that could be yes. For example, if the Anti Christ brings about world peace by killing all that oppose him and creating a global dictatorship is that a great guy?

What if he brings about an end to poverty and hungry by literally killing off all those below the poverty line? Same question, is he still a great guy?


To the OP, my understanding of how the Antichrist will come to power is similar to what someone has already said. He'll mostly likely surface in an organization like the United Nations.

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johnathan

Well, my friend, first of all, I've heard that United States is making a new card that with that card you can buy and sold, It's call MONDEX you can search in google. That would be the mark of the beast, and The anti-Christ would be the next POPE, after benedicto (that one who is now) would come a black POPE, and that would be the anti-christ, and he will trick a lot of people.

Willravel

You think the antichrist will be black? That's um an intersting opinion.

Personally, I don't think there is any way for us to know for sure. I'd keep an eye on political or religious figures that are overwhelmingly popular. Other than that, I'm not sure.

host

Uhhhh.... how about political figures that once had very high approval ratings,
but not anymore.... do we still have to keep an eye on that kind?

crxforum

Here is what I think will happen, with no facts, backing, or proof in anything I am about to type. I think that the Anti-Christ will come into power through the termoil that is going on in the middle east and in Israel / Palastein at the moment. Somehow he or his corperation will be able to settle the problems there. Then a lot of people will love his company. From there he will be accepted into the United Nations. From there he will adress the deteriorating state of the world and all of its problems. Then he will bring up his ways to solve these problems. He will solve some of them. They say that the only way to solve the rest is to establish a world government to govern people who are out to stop the progress that is being made.

Countries will attach themselves onto the idea of equality and safety and put themselves into this new world order (Oh yes I used those terms). The countries that oppose this NWO will pretty much be flattened similar to Iraq with claims that they were against peace and were terrorists. Then the new governments will be put into place and they will sign up wth the NWO.

So now you have all the countries under one code of laws, one code of ethics. Each one has their own little head like a presidents or prime minister who answers to the AC since the AC is the head of the NWO. Eventually the NWO will commision weapons to protect people from terrorists or insurgents wanting to bring them down. This will also allow for technology to be created to track and monitor people. All people would be required to have some sort of implant, or other tracking device installed. This would be the mark of the beast. New borns would get it right away after they are born.

From there he will pretty much do whatever he pleases. Kill his oposers and opposition and then God will have enough of it and take him out and us with him for being so stupid for following him in the first place.

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jimbob

Keep the ideas coming guys, I'll reveal myself when I think you're ready.

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longbough

Scott Baio is the Anti-Christ

Ganggreen

"Wait, if the anti christ manages to solve world poverty and brings peace to earth, isn't he just a great guy?"



I think this will be a factor in the anti-christ coming into power myself. If you think about it, he can't just walk in and say I am the epitomy of all evil, so you should let me rule. That's not how it's going to happen. The bible itself even says that the devil will appear as an angel of light. I think he will come into power as a peacemaker. What are our current wars being fought over. Now I know some of you are thinking oil, and I agree to some extent(that the control of essentials will be a vice of the anti-christ), but that's not why the majority of them are being fought. They are religious wars. So the anti-Christ will outlaw religion all together to end all wars. Now I'm not saying that this is going to happen overnight. It will be a result of years if not decades of horrible death due to religious wars. No religious beliefs, no reason to fight. Slavery guised as Utopia. And the anti-christ achieves his goal of killing faith by bringing peace to the world. Sadly I believe that this process has already begun, you see in order for the whole world to be sick of all wars, death and suffering, you must have much of it. So evil will start these wars and tyrany just so it came come along and be a (false) messiah to end it. So just as Jesus had John the Baptist paving the way for him, the anti christ will have people paving the way for him/or her. John the Baptist brought a message of hope, the counterpart will bring a message of death, much like our current leaders today. I'll just call him George the Sadist. The worst part of all this is that if you are a Bible believing Christian, there is nothing you can do to stop it from happening. The bible even says it will happen, but there's hope in the afterlife and down the road for those who have to suffer through the anti christ's reign. Always look on the bright side of life

rlbond86

Colonel Sanders is the antichrist. And he dominates us all with his secret blend of herbs and spices.

jbw97361

Well what if the antichrist isn't even human? What if the antichrist is the first fully functional artifical intelligence program? If science was able to create an AI program that was always cool, level headed, and posessing all the necessary qualities to lead, would people be willing to put their trust in such a program? I can easily imagine a world that is run by a central computer (or neural net of computers) that make all the important decisions for humanity. To such a machine, wouldn't a human be not a body with a soul, but a number? A purely logical computer would probably also be able to convince people that such things as superstitions and religions are not needed.

Besides, so many other things in the bible are only what the people at the time of the bible's writing interpreted whatever they saw as in terms of their life? How would someone from ~400 AD know about an intelligent robot or be able to describe it in terms that are understandable to everyone?

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I'm not a christian but this is what the "offical book" says:

Revelation 13:11-18
11Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence,[c] and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, 14and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of[d] the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,[e] to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.[f]


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onewolf

Dumb question. Dean Smith is the anti-christ.

Anomaly_

Yes, and ironically Christianity is more or less the Antichrist according to Nietzsche. More specifically, Apostle Paul appropriated Christ for his own purposes and everything thereafter known as Christianity has been against Christ. If one needs to project an Antichrist onto something, Nietzsche's choice seems reasonable; all of this Illuminati/New World Order conspiracy conjecture is for the birds.

MSD

I'm warning you now, I'm going to give a one week ban to the next person who posts an idiotic one-liner or contentless response in this thread. If you don't read this and post anyway, that's your own fault.



As for my opinion, I don't believe in a literal interpretation of the bible, or even in its relevance as a religious text (I am extremely non-religious.) I feel that the book of revelations is a literary work that warns the reader of anyone who seems ideal, yet may have sinister intentions hidden behind a shroud of good works.

CityOfAngels

I found this to be quite convincing: http://www.internetweekly.org/iwr/pa...ntichrist.html

But really; doesn't the Bible say we won't know who the antichrist is until it's too late? That means we can keep guessing, but chances are no one will guess correctly.