ARauckhorst

At my job there works a complete nut job. Lately, among talking about full out nuclear devistation hes been talking about underground armies. In fact, the largest underground army is said to be located none other than under my small suburbia town.

After hearing, for two years, stories of the N.W.O. (new world order) along with countless other conspiracies and odd beliefs I think I'm about to break and go crazy myself. Does anyone have any helpful hints on how to cope with this albatrossity?

__________________

Cynthetiq

During WWII I understand that there was a bunker with generators deep under Grand Central Terminal in NYC where troops were stationed to protect the generators. The troops were to shoot anyone on sight carrying sand which could damage the generators and compromise the system.

__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.

Daniel_

Ask around town residents that you know - ask if any of them remember a vast constuction project.

A bunker either needs a self contained power source ('kin big hole) or connections to the local power source (shit load of cables going into a big hole).

Neither can happen overnight, and neither can happen in secret.

__________________

╔═════════════════════════════════════════╗
Overhead, the Albatross hangs motionless upon the air,
And deep beneath the rolling waves,
In labyrinths of Coral Caves,
The Echo of a distant time
Comes willowing across the sand;
And everthing is Green and Submarine
╚═════════════════════════════════════════╝

dlish

interesting...just curious what the consequences are from lack of vitamin D which u get from the sun.

__________________
An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere

I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay?
- Filthy

aKula

Obviously they have sun lamps installed to stop vitamin D deficiencies. Under Berlin there is a vast network of tunnels and bunkers, they have some tours for the tourists there. I have been in the (i think artificial) tunnels in the mountain at Homburg (town in the west of Germany), where people took shelter during the two world wars. There are 12 'floors' of tunnels, it's quite huge.

Stare At The Sun

Seeing as how I'm also from ohio, i'd be very curious to know what small town you speak of, as I just might know it!

Otherwise, I'd seek out a lot more facts before buying into it. Is the NWO what the guy is calling this army, or is that its actual name?

Details!

Cynthetiq

I dunno.. the Green Briar was a massive bunker for congress....

no one knew it was there for many years, and no one even suspected it.



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sf...floorplan.html
On December 12, 1958, at the height of the Cold War, an article in a West Virginia newspaper stated that the "Chesapeake and Ohio Railway announced plans today for the construction of an Exhibit Hall adjacent to the auditorium of the Greenbrier hotel. The cost of the project was not disclosed." Little did readers of the newspaper article know that the announcement signaled the start of thirty-five years of deception and intrigue deep in the mountains of West Virginia.

__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.

ARauckhorst

The small town would be Wadsworth.

The NWO would be the society that more or less controls the United States and the rest of the world. From what my crazy co-worker has told me it's comprised of world leaders and important business people. George W. Bush is deffinatly NWO. But, we the sheeple (the unknowing people) are to stupid to realize what it is. Acourting to PJ (the worker) we all must start listening to the shortwave radio as it is the only way to truly understand.

__________________

fastom

Maybe he's heard about the Denver airport?

I talked to a guy who was involved in building a huge underground base under a mountain, he wasn't willing to give a location or any details decades later. He didn't even know what it was for, few workers knew anything beyond their small part in the construction, no outside contracts, all work was by armed forces workers. Nobody saw finished plans. He said he was curious about it of course.

Spire

if they are real they should think up a name that isnt from wcw wrestling

t3m3st

I think that's where they're keeping the Stargate...

__________________
I do it for the rare drops

Martian

Of course there are underground armies. They're working hand in hand with the greys who inexplicably also live underground beneath area 51. The objective is to keep the evil mole people at bay.

EDIT - base under a mountain, eh? Was it Cheyenne mountain by any chance? Because that one's not a secret anymore...

__________________
I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept
I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept
I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head
I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said

- Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

Coppertop

Yeah, and Lucas named his 1977 movie after the SDI...

Ronin Tetsuro

I have been reading quite a bit of testimonial from Native Americans and ex-government officials about the massive scale of races that live under the southwestern parts of the country.

One race is said to be the stereotypical greys and that they hold the world governments in a girp of fear while they preform experiments. The other race is a tall skinny Valkerie-like being that is in direct opposition to the greys and wishes to truly help mankind, but has no way of doing that since the government has been cohersed by the greys and their promise of power. This was also supposed to attribute for the various sightings of demons and angels, since these races have been about for eons, but the spread of humanity forced them to go subterrenean.

If I can find the link again I'll let you know. I want to say that a lot of it was centered around Groom Lake. Can't remember completely. It was waiting for me at the end of a long research session that went something like:

9/11 -> NWO -> Denver Internation Airport -> Underground Bases -> Groom Lake -> Multiple Subterrenan Races

You see why I took a break. That's quite a bit for even the hardened theorist to take.

__________________
The best stories are the ones I can never tell.

MSD

The name "New World Order" has been around for several centuries.

raeanna74

I was gonna mention that. Good thing I read the whole thread first.

From what I understand it refers to World Leaders who become allied. The new European Money system is a part of that as well. There's some prophecy that there will be something like 12 nations from Europe and the US who combine. They form a united money system and a united leadership. This group of nations and their system are called NWO. It's been a while since I heard about this so I'm a little rusty on the details. I do in fact have a couple books elaborating on this particular subject but they are in storage. All of the books are written and published by Fundamentalist Protestant Christians. From what I understand it's an idea that originated with Bible interpretations.

Short-wave radio is not going to give you any better picture of this. If the conspiracy were really true don't you think that all forms of media would be monitored?? As for an underground military base?? I doubt it. But if you want to know more, look into the history of the city. For example: my town has a history, verfied by my through interviews with older residents, that dates back many, many years. Any of these underground 'bunkers' were often built during WWII. I have spoken residents who were here then. My own grandparents included. The only large structure that was built anywhere around that time was the hospital. If there was a bunker built underground then I would think it would need to be begun with another large structure breaking ground initially.

__________________
"Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama
My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

ObieX

There has been and probably still are a few underground bunkers/missile silos that had been for sale in the US recently complete with kitchen, living quarters, working water/electricity and even their own emergency power plants. Shockingly they didnt cost all that much, i've seen small 2 bedroom houses in NJ go for more.

So if you're looking to start your own army just hop online and find a bunker/silo for sale, its not that hard.

here's some info on bunkers/nuclear silos for sale in various countries near you!
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/11/230203
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16631
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2164659.stm
http://www.itvregions.com/Granada/Ne...r+for+sale.htm
http://www.cronaca.com/archives/001150.html

__________________
We Must Dissent.

mkultra

I'm also from a small Ohio town, and this isn't that uncommon a rumor (the underground bunker thing, not the secret army thing). With Wright-Patterson airforce base hosting the Air Force's north american command a lot Ohio was high on the Soviets nuke list. My town has several fallout shelters under public buildings, including a multilevel one under the middle school downtown. They have all the lower levels locked up now, but there were several storage rooms in the basement that comprised the top of the shelter that still has a bunch of civil defense supply canisters that I've seen. I've also heard lots of rumors of my county being on some sort of special list along with other Ohio counties during the cold war where the government would track the movement of people immigrating there from other countries. I always wanted to get into one of the bunkers and check it out, or at least find some plans about them, the ones in my town are supposed to be connected and have a lot of levels.

A lot of my friends did tech crew for the musicals my high school performed at the large auditorium at the middle school and we used to have the run of the place during during rehersal and build week. We checked out a lot of the easy to get into places, but its a huge building. Spooky as hell at night too, had a lot of fun times exploring trapdoors and steam tunnels under the stage, but we never made it down to the fallout shelter.

__________________
In the words of Jello: "Punk ain't no religious cult,punk means thinking for yourself. You ain't hardcore cause you spike your hair, when a jock still lives inside your head."

xepherys

That's not entirely true. I was watching a History Channel special about a secret bunker under some ritzy hotel... maybe in D.C. can't recall for sure... that was used for presidentail protection and was built during the cold war, under the hotel, without anybody knowing. I think there MAY have been construction, but it looked like hotel renovation or something. It's, obviously, not secret anymore... but it was a killer story!

Mr Honest

just tell him that if he tells you any more you'll have him disappeared for breaching security

whisper it in a really quiet voice and if he asks you to repeat it just walk away saying 'you heard it buddy'

__________________
Human beings : who could ever claim to like them all?

Ganggreen

well...back to underground bunkers. if you wanted to build a bunker in the middle of a crowded city, you'd need to hide it with another big construction job. aka, underneath the old world trade center site. think it's freedom tower? correct me if i'm wrong about the name.

Cynthetiq

you aren't wrong about the name, but there's subway trains, a shopping mall, and a large parking structure underneath the WTC site. If you happened to see National Treasure the church they were in that had the huge repository underneath it.. yeah there's a subway train that runs right there...

__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.