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samcol · 04-07-2005, 05:22 AM

I just read an interesting article from Newsmax that said some bishop named St. Malachy acuretly predicted the all the popes since the 10th century.

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Almost ten centuries ago, Malachy predicted this pope would be noted by an eclipse of the sun.

In an eerie coincidence, John Paul II was the only known pope to be born on the day of a solar eclipse.

But the prophetic link doesn't end there. Pope John Paul II will be buried this Friday during another solar eclipse.

Prophecy on Pope Fulfilled by Eclipses?

According to St. Malachy there will only be two more popes. Pretty interesting.

aKula · 04-07-2005, 05:49 AM

Well after reading that short article, I wanted some more information so I checked wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachy

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Originally Posted by wikipedia

According to Malachy, Pope John Paul II will be succeded by one more pope, and then by Peter the Roman. However, there is much debate about this. The last Pope, Peter the Roman, was added to the list in 1820, and does not appear in the original list. If this is the case, then Malachy intended the next Pope to be the last. On the other hand, others argue that Malachy did not indicate that The next Pope and Peter the Roman will be consecutive, and there may be more popes he did not foresee.

One line of reasoning indicates the motto of the next pope, 'The Glory of the Olive' is a pointer that the next Pope will be Christ himself, and that Peter the Roman is fictitious. Israel is referred to in Malchy's texts as 'The Olive' and so 'The Glory of the Olive' would be Christ himself, and so herald the Last Judgement.

Could the coming pope be Christ? I guess we'll find out in a few weeks!

dX927 · 04-07-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aKula

Well after reading that short article, I wanted some more information so I checked wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachy

Could the coming pope be Christ? I guess we'll find out in a few weeks!

Just imagine the uproar if that's true and if the next pope ends up being black as well. Might make a lot more sense though.

wocidej · 04-07-2005, 09:12 PM

I was looking at some pages about this the other day. As far as I have seen, Nowhere in the prophesies does it say that it's actually the end of the world, only that it is the end of something. The end of the catholic church maybe? Of course this is assuming that the prophesy is real at all. No matter what happens, somebody will always find a way to assign the words to events, same thing always happens with Nostradamus' cryptic writings.

Bagezio2 · 04-08-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aKula

Well after reading that short article, I wanted some more information so I checked wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachy

Could the coming pope be Christ? I guess we'll find out in a few weeks!

nah, the article says that there will be 2 more popes after the late john paul II. So if its true, it probably won't happen in our lifetime, that is if the next popes have as long papacy's as john paul II.

Gatorade Frost · 04-08-2005, 07:21 PM

I'm pretty sure most popes don't last as long as JPII.

anleja · 04-08-2005, 07:36 PM

VICARIVS FILII DEI (Latin for: Vicar of the Son of God)

This is what is written on the Pope's gold crown at his public coronation. Change the applicable letters into Roman numerals, add them up, and what number do you get? 666.

Rock and roll!

trickyy · 04-08-2005, 09:21 PM

solar eclipses occur up to 5 times a year. not that special really, especially from that standpoint of someone 1000 years ago. and it takes some handwaving to get from "labor of the sun" to eclipse.

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

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According to the prophecy, the next Pope will be the second last Pope Gloria Olivae ("Glory of the Olives"). Will we see the return of an Italian to Vatican Hill? Or will it be a Frenchman or a Spaniard? Someone from Latin America, perhaps, the Glory of the Spanish New World?

i know, it really narrows it down. maybe olive on the coat of arms, a country that grows olives, olive colored eyes/complexion, or a preoccupation with peace.

the complete list is at the bottom of the link. seems kind of easy to come up with connections after the fact, but what do i know.

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the prophecy concerning Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses.

Seanland · 04-08-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by anleja

VICARIVS FILII DEI (Latin for: Vicar of the Son of God)

This is what is written on the Pope's gold crown at his public coronation. Change the applicable letters into Roman numerals, add them up, and what number do you get? 666.

Rock and roll!

I dont like how everything these day seems to add up to 666...

but the pope thing, i donno, I have an eerie feeling about this..

abscondo · 04-17-2005, 07:36 AM

I read somewhere -- wish I could remember where, so I could provide a link -- that this is now considered to be a hoax/forgery by Jesuit priests in the 1500-1600's.

The Jolt · 04-18-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagezio2

nah, the article says that there will be 2 more popes after the late john paul II. So if its true, it probably won't happen in our lifetime, that is if the next popes have as long papacy's as john paul II.

I can't remember where I heard this but there is a tradition of electing a "lean pope after a fat pope" meaning the next pope will be much older than the last and die much sooner.

Remember JPI? He died after only a month.

::Puts on tin foil hat::

asudevil83 · 04-19-2005, 11:23 AM

they just elected the new pope today, and well.....he's pretty damn old. 78. he is Benedict XVI. i read that when a pope chooses a name different than the preceeding pope, he intends to take the church in a different direction....so we shall see.

Bagezio2 · 04-19-2005, 05:43 PM

this could be very wrong... but has anyone else heard that Cardinal Ratzinger (pope benedict XVI) used to be a member of a NAZI youth group.....

Has anyone seen the old star wars movies? the original ones, episodes 4, 5, and 6.. well is it just me, or does the new pope kind of remind you of the emperor in the movies... i don't know why but this new pope just gives me a bad feeling...

Seanland · 04-19-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagezio2

this could be very wrong... but has anyone else heard that Cardinal Ratzinger (pope benedict XVI) used to be a member of a NAZI youth group.....

I heard, that also, from a couple of my friends.. creepy..

Gatorade Frost · 04-19-2005, 08:32 PM

Eh, the Nazi Youth programs were required at the time, and he also fought for the Nazis during WWII though he deserted and ended up in a POW camp until the end of the war. He claims he never fired a round, which I suppose I believe him as I doubt many popes nowadays are huge liars...

guthmund · 04-19-2005, 09:28 PM

An article from Reuters for those interested..

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Joseph Ratzinger, elected Roman Catholic pope on Tuesday, served in the Hitler Youth during World War Two when membership was compulsory, according to his autobiography.

But he was never a member of the Nazi party and his family opposed Adolf Hitler's regime, biographers have said.

Ratzinger's experiences during World War Two have been a source of controversy in some newspapers which probed the German pope's past after Pope John Paul died and he quickly became a frontrunner to succeed the deceased pontiff.

In his autobiography "Milestone: Memoirs: 1927-1977", Ratzinger said he and his brother Georg were both enrolled in the Hitler Youth when membership was obligatory.

Founded in 1922 and based in Ratzinger's native region of Bavaria, the Hitler Youth was a paramilitary organisation of the Nazi Party. It was disbanded in 1923 but re-established in 1926, a year after the Nazi Party was recognised.

Members of the Hitler Youth wore uniforms resembling those of the Nazi Party.

"Neither Ratzinger nor any member of his family was a National Socialist," John Allen wrote in a biography of Ratzinger entitled "Cardinal Ratzinger: The Vatican's Enforcer of the Faith".

Allen quoted Ratzinger, who was born in 1927, as saying his father's criticism of the Nazis forced the family to move home four times.

"As a seminarian, he was briefly enrolled in the Hitler Youth in the early 1940s, though he was never a member of the Nazi party," Allen, a Vatican specialist, wrote in an article published in National Catholic Reporter in 1999.

"In 1943 he was conscripted into an anti-aircraft unit guarding a BMW plant outside Munich," wrote Allen.

U.S. POW

Allen said Ratzinger was later sent to Austria's border with Hungary to erect tank traps. "After being shipped back to Bavaria, he deserted. When the war ended, he was an American prisoner of war," he said.

Allen said that under Hitler, "Ratzinger says he watched the Nazis twist and distort the truth. Their lies about Jews, about genetics, were more than academic exercises. People died by the millions because of them."

Peter Seewald, a German journalist who published a book-length interview with Ratzinger in 1996 entitled "Salt of the Earth", said the German "clearly saw Hitler and the Third Reich as the enemy" to both family and Church.

Ratzinger's father "saw that a victory of Hitler would not be a victory for Germany but a victory of the Antichrist," Seewald's U.S. publisher, Ignatius Press, wrote in a summary of Seewald's book.

"In 1943 while still in seminary, he was drafted at age 16 into the German anti-aircraft corps," Ignatius said. "Though he was opposed to the Nazis, he was forced to join at a young age."

Ratzinger trained in the German infantry but a subsequent illness kept him from doing "the usual rigours of military duty", Ignatius said.

"As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he escaped from the Nazis and returned to his family's home in Traunstein, just as American troops established their headquarters in the Ratzinger household," Ignatius said.

It said he was put in a U.S. prisoner of war camp but released a few months later at the end of the war in 1945.

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I can't remember where I heard this but there is a tradition of electing a "lean pope after a fat pope" meaning the next pope will be much older than the last and die much sooner.

Remember JPI? He died after only a month.

I've heard the same thing, but it wasn't related to age at all. Fat Popes are controversial Popes and lean popes are the more conservative.

So, they usually elect a conservative Pope after the reign of a controversial one.

I don't guess it matters because either way I think it's going to be right. Benedict is certainly older than John Paul was and not likely to serve as long. Benedict as I understand it, is very much the conservative whereas John Paul was the more progressive.

samcol · 04-20-2005, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagezio2

this could be very wrong... but has anyone else heard that Cardinal Ratzinger (pope benedict XVI) used to be a member of a NAZI youth group.....

Has anyone seen the old star wars movies? the original ones, episodes 4, 5, and 6.. well is it just me, or does the new pope kind of remind you of the emperor in the movies... i don't know why but this new pope just gives me a bad feeling...

I noticed the same thing about the pope/emperor. We need to find pics comparing them haha.

trickyy · 04-20-2005, 07:51 AM

well, since he was from bavaria, it's not too surprising.

anyone figured out the olive connection yet? the obvious choice to fulfill the prophesy was not made.

http://apokalypso.com/MartiniOlive.html (link is pre-decision)

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But indications are emerging that the pro-Ratzinger momentum may have peaked too soon, with the opposition to his candidacy now beginning to coalesce around Carlo Maria Cardinal Martini, the retired Archbishop of Milan.

Bagezio2 · 04-20-2005, 01:28 PM

imm i dunno... its a bit too close for comfort...

Zeraph · 04-20-2005, 02:17 PM

Is that sarcasm? I don't see it at all. Theyre two old guys, what do you expect?

samcol · 04-20-2005, 04:38 PM

more humor...

http://popepalpatine.ytmnd.com/
http://nazipopelol.ytmnd.com/

Bagezio2 · 04-20-2005, 04:47 PM

but you have to admit... there IS at least a SLIGHT resemblence between the two...

samcol · 04-20-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagezio2

but you have to admit... there IS at least a SLIGHT resemblence between the two...

It's the dark sunken eyes, that's what happens to jedi when they turn to the dark side. Their eyes darken and the skin goes pale

Bagezio2 · 04-20-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by samcol

It's the dark sunken eyes, that's what happens to jedi when they turn to the dark side. Their eyes darken and the skin goes pale

Thats it!!! the eyes and pale skin!! and the white white hair makes his skin look even MORE pale!

squirrelyburt · 04-21-2005, 09:39 AM

I'm not Catholic and the guy spooks me out. Not anything in particular, nothing in his past that I have heard, just something...

On the last 2 popes thing, has anyone heard of the Mayan calender also ending in 2012? Maybe this thread is going to the paranoia threads!!

Zeraph · 04-22-2005, 12:13 PM

Yeah you guys are right, the eyes..

anleja · 04-22-2005, 02:43 PM

i enjoy this photo: (can't link it, sorry, if someone else can find a way, plese do so, it is just not working for me)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../jj10704211814

Manuel Hong · 04-22-2005, 03:08 PM

Jinkies! I remember when I was about 10, JPI died and JPII became pope...there was a lot of talk then about the next pope after him being the last pope and then there'd be world peace (does anyone else recall it this way?). It's funny that now the buzz is about the end of the world...well, the end of humankind sure would bring about peace.

In the first link, (pre-decision) NewsMax mentioned the St. Benedict's claim that this pope would be of his ranks...interesting...the order of the olive.

I'm getting paraniod...the new pope does resemble the emperor...funny links!

Bagezio2 · 04-22-2005, 04:08 PM

1 + 2) is it just me or do these look like horns..

3.) That smirk doesnt seem right...

4.) that ring seems to be swelling his fiinger... hmm suspicious

5.) Whats he looking at?

6.) AHH!! ITS ALIVE!!!

7.) DERRRRFFF

ehh sorry i got silly after the first 3...

anleja · 04-22-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagezio2

7.) DERRRRFFF

haha, for some reason # 7 cracked me up.

The_Dunedan · 04-23-2005, 12:17 PM

BTW;
The Pope's title is not "Vicarius Fili Dei," which translates as "Vicar of the Son of God" but rather "Vicarius Christi," or "Vicar of Christ." The "Vicarius Fili Dei" thing is a clever scam by a number of professional Catholic-haters ( most notably Jack Chick and his ilk ) to play with Numerology and "prove" that the Pope is The Beast.

anleja · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

I love Chick tracts.

guthmund · 04-29-2005, 12:31 PM

It appears the conspiracists have made the "olive" connection between Benedict and Saint Malachy

Link a dinka doo

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By Phil Stewart

ROME (Reuters) - Pope Benedict's ascent to the papacy took a conclave of 115 cardinals, four rounds of voting and followed a lifetime of service to the Vatican.

But ask Internet doomsayers eyeing a 12th century Catholic prophecy and they'll tell you it was all stitched up more than eight centuries ago and that judgment day is nigh.

The prophecy -- widely dismissed by scholars as a hoax -- is attributed to St. Malachy, an Irish archbishop recognized by members of the Church for his ability to read the future.

Benedict, believers say, fits the description of the second-to-last pope listed under the prophecy before the Last Judgement, when the bible says God separates the wicked from the righteous at the end of time.

"The Old Testament states: 'believe his prophets and you will prosper' -- so believe it. We are close to the return of the Judge of the nations. Christ is coming," wrote one Internet post by the Rev. Pat Reynolds.

"Thank God for the witness of St. Malachy."

St. Malachy was said to have had a vision during a trip to Rome around 1139 of the remaining 112 Popes. The new pope would be number 111 on that list, and is described in a text attributed to St. Malachy as the "Glory of the Olive."

To connect Benedict, a pale, bookish German, to anything olive takes some imagination. But Malachy-watchers point to the choice of the name Benedict -- an allusion to the Order of Saint Benedict, a branch of which is known as the Olivetans.

"When (he) chose the name Benedict XVI, this was seen as fulfilling the prophecy for this pope," wrote one entry on www.wikipedia.org.

Benedict said that he chose the name partly in honor of Pope Benedict XV (1914-1922), calling him a "courageous prophet of peace." On Wednesday, Benedict dedicated his papacy to "the service of reconciliation and harmony between peoples."

"Perhaps Benedict XVI will be a peacemaker in the Church or in the world, and thus carry the olive branch," speculated www.catholic-pages.com.

Another site, www.bibleprobe.com, went even further, showing a picture of Benedict holding olive branches in March during Palm Sunday celebrations.

"Is this the Pope of Peace (olive)?" it asked in the caption.

Critics widely dismiss the Malachy prophecy as a forgery and possible propaganda meant to influence a 16th century conclave. Doses of skepticism even appear on the most energetic Malachy web pages.

But believers point out similarities between the prophecy's descriptions and past pontificates. Pope John Paul II, number 110, was described in the prophecy as "de labore solis" -- or "of the labor of the sun."

He was born on May 18, 1920, the same day as a solar eclipse. The pontiff was buried on April 8, 2005 -- the same day as a partial eclipse, visible in the Americas.

More pressing for doomsayers are the prophecy's references to the last Pope on the list, Peter the Roman, who will lead the Church before "the formidable judge will judge his people."

Since Benedict is already 78 years old, they say Peter the Roman must be coming soon, and with him, the end of the world.

"His reign will only last a few years at most. This signals that we are living in what may be the end of days as we know it," said one Web Site entry by someone calling himself SmartBob.

I don't really have an opinon on this other than to say I guess it's possible to make just about any connection if you look long and hard enough. I mean, look at the writings of Nostradamus. People have managed to read all sorts of far fetched stuff about the future in his writings.

v_Jaded_v · 04-30-2005, 04:29 PM

If you want to look at prophecy, especially when it comes to religion, I'd probably look to Revelations as opposed to this Malachay. Unless I recall incorrectly, during or preceeding end times, is there not supposed to be peace amongst religions and nations? The day I read about peace in between mid east countries, north Korea no longer being a threat, muslims embracing christians, christians embracing jews, jews embracing budists.....Then I'll start to worry about end times. I doubt I'll see any of the afore mentioned in my lifetime.

hunnychile · 05-09-2005, 04:38 PM

Sounds like a lot of ST. Malarky....

hrandani · 05-10-2005, 09:10 AM

uh actually the 666 thing is in revelations where you add up the numbers of the pope's title, so that would be its origin, not an application.

saut · 05-10-2005, 10:42 AM

Well, it's 616 anyway, not 666. Theologists have been debating over this for some time, and I believe some scripture surfaced recently (very, very old scripture) that gives 616 as the mark of the beast.

While I am not religious, I do find the prophecies (especially St. Malachy's) to be pretty interesting. Supposedly after this pope (Ratzinger), a "black" (not referring to his skin color) pope will be elect. This pope will be a servant of the anti-christ.

Whether or not this is all a bunch of bullshit is anyone's guess. I suppose we'll find out eventually though, since popes tend not to last for too long (I believe the average time a pope serves is around 5 years).

RusCrimson · 05-13-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hrandani

uh actually the 666 thing is in revelations where you add up the numbers of the pope's title, so that would be its origin, not an application.

First, back in the time of Revelations, the term "pope" was not even used. In Eastern Churches the term is used to designate priests. In the West, it was initially restricted to bishops but around the fourth century became a distinctive title of the Bishop of Rome, i.e., what we know as the pope.

Second, the although many candidates for the name which counts to 666 (given assigning certain numerical values to Hebrew or Greek letters), the most convincing one is actually for Emperor Caesar Nero. Moreover, given (i) that Revelation was authored during the Christian persecutions by the Roman government and (ii) the other images surrounding in the same chapter, it is likely that the 'Second Beast' is the Emperor.

Of course, individuals are free to give this historical evidence whatever weight they want in their own analyses.

RusCrimson · 05-13-2005, 05:21 PM

Plus, previous posters were correct in identifying this whole thing as Jesuit trickery.

And the Dan Browns of the world identify Opus Dei as the problem. Ha! He's wrong: It's the Jesuits.

timalkin · 05-15-2005, 10:50 AM

I read the entire "Left Behind" series of books, and I'm seeing some startling similiarities between the books and real life. There's supposed to be 7 years of tribulation once the Anti-Christ comes to power, then Jesus returns to kick ass. If it's true that the Mayan calendar ends in 2012...

2012-2005= 7 years.

04-17-2005, 07:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
abscondo Tilted Location: MI	I read somewhere -- wish I could remember where, so I could provide a link -- that this is now considered to be a hoax/forgery by Jesuit priests in the 1500-1600's. __________________ Ceci n'est pas une pipe. Last edited by abscondo; 04-17-2005 at 07:37 AM.. Reason: fix typo

04-19-2005, 08:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	Eh, the Nazi Youth programs were required at the time, and he also fought for the Nazis during WWII though he deserted and ended up in a POW camp until the end of the war. He claims he never fired a round, which I suppose I believe him as I doubt many popes nowadays are huge liars... __________________ I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well." Emo Philips

04-20-2005, 01:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
Bagezio2 Tilted Location: Astoria, Queens, NY	imm i dunno... its a bit too close for comfort... Last edited by Bagezio2; 04-20-2005 at 01:31 PM..

04-21-2005, 09:39 AM	#25 (permalink)
squirrelyburt Crazy Location: Central Wisconsin	I'm not Catholic and the guy spooks me out. Not anything in particular, nothing in his past that I have heard, just something... On the last 2 popes thing, has anyone heard of the Mayan calender also ending in 2012? Maybe this thread is going to the paranoia threads!! __________________ If you've ever felt there was a reason to be afraid of the dark, you were right.

04-22-2005, 02:43 PM	#27 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	i enjoy this photo: (can't link it, sorry, if someone else can find a way, plese do so, it is just not working for me) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../jj10704211814 Last edited by anleja; 04-22-2005 at 02:45 PM..

04-07-2005, 09:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
wocidej Upright	I was looking at some pages about this the other day. As far as I have seen, Nowhere in the prophesies does it say that it's actually the end of the world, only that it is the end of something. The end of the catholic church maybe? Of course this is assuming that the prophesy is real at all. No matter what happens, somebody will always find a way to assign the words to events, same thing always happens with Nostradamus' cryptic writings.

04-08-2005, 07:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	I'm pretty sure most popes don't last as long as JPII.

04-08-2005, 07:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	VICARIVS FILII DEI (Latin for: Vicar of the Son of God) This is what is written on the Pope's gold crown at his public coronation. Change the applicable letters into Roman numerals, add them up, and what number do you get? 666. Rock and roll!

04-19-2005, 11:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
asudevil83 Psycho Location: Scottsdale, AZ	they just elected the new pope today, and well.....he's pretty damn old. 78. he is Benedict XVI. i read that when a pope chooses a name different than the preceeding pope, he intends to take the church in a different direction....so we shall see.

04-19-2005, 05:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bagezio2 Tilted Location: Astoria, Queens, NY	this could be very wrong... but has anyone else heard that Cardinal Ratzinger (pope benedict XVI) used to be a member of a NAZI youth group..... Has anyone seen the old star wars movies? the original ones, episodes 4, 5, and 6.. well is it just me, or does the new pope kind of remind you of the emperor in the movies... i don't know why but this new pope just gives me a bad feeling...

04-20-2005, 02:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Is that sarcasm? I don't see it at all. Theyre two old guys, what do you expect?

04-20-2005, 04:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
samcol Junkie Location: Indiana	more humor... http://popepalpatine.ytmnd.com/ http://nazipopelol.ytmnd.com/

04-20-2005, 04:47 PM	#22 (permalink)
Bagezio2 Tilted Location: Astoria, Queens, NY	but you have to admit... there IS at least a SLIGHT resemblence between the two...

04-22-2005, 12:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Yeah you guys are right, the eyes..

04-22-2005, 03:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
Manuel Hong Addict Location: Land of the puny, wimpy states	Jinkies! I remember when I was about 10, JPI died and JPII became pope...there was a lot of talk then about the next pope after him being the last pope and then there'd be world peace (does anyone else recall it this way?). It's funny that now the buzz is about the end of the world...well, the end of humankind sure would bring about peace. In the first link, (pre-decision) NewsMax mentioned the St. Benedict's claim that this pope would be of his ranks...interesting...the order of the olive. I'm getting paraniod...the new pope does resemble the emperor...funny links! __________________ Believe nothing, even if I tell it to you, unless it meets with your own good common sense and experience. - Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha)

04-22-2005, 04:08 PM	#29 (permalink)
Bagezio2 Tilted Location: Astoria, Queens, NY	1 + 2) is it just me or do these look like horns.. 3.) That smirk doesnt seem right... 4.) that ring seems to be swelling his fiinger... hmm suspicious 5.) Whats he looking at? 6.) AHH!! ITS ALIVE!!! 7.) DERRRRFFF ehh sorry i got silly after the first 3... Last edited by Bagezio2; 04-22-2005 at 04:10 PM..

04-23-2005, 12:17 PM	#31 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	BTW; The Pope's title is not "Vicarius Fili Dei," which translates as "Vicar of the Son of God" but rather "Vicarius Christi," or "Vicar of Christ." The "Vicarius Fili Dei" thing is a clever scam by a number of professional Catholic-haters ( most notably Jack Chick and his ilk ) to play with Numerology and "prove" that the Pope is The Beast.

04-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#32 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	I love Chick tracts.

04-30-2005, 04:29 PM	#34 (permalink)
v_Jaded_v Upright Location: Southwest side of North America's mitten	If you want to look at prophecy, especially when it comes to religion, I'd probably look to Revelations as opposed to this Malachay. Unless I recall incorrectly, during or preceeding end times, is there not supposed to be peace amongst religions and nations? The day I read about peace in between mid east countries, north Korea no longer being a threat, muslims embracing christians, christians embracing jews, jews embracing budists.....Then I'll start to worry about end times. I doubt I'll see any of the afore mentioned in my lifetime. __________________ "What is life? It is a flash of a firefly in the night. It is the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and looses itself in the sunset." Crowfoot, Blackfoot warrior

05-09-2005, 04:38 PM	#35 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	Sounds like a lot of ST. Malarky.... __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB

05-10-2005, 09:10 AM	#36 (permalink)
hrandani Insane	uh actually the 666 thing is in revelations where you add up the numbers of the pope's title, so that would be its origin, not an application.

05-10-2005, 10:42 AM	#37 (permalink)
saut Registered User Location: Pittsburgh	Well, it's 616 anyway, not 666. Theologists have been debating over this for some time, and I believe some scripture surfaced recently (very, very old scripture) that gives 616 as the mark of the beast. While I am not religious, I do find the prophecies (especially St. Malachy's) to be pretty interesting. Supposedly after this pope (Ratzinger), a "black" (not referring to his skin color) pope will be elect. This pope will be a servant of the anti-christ. Whether or not this is all a bunch of bullshit is anyone's guess. I suppose we'll find out eventually though, since popes tend not to last for too long (I believe the average time a pope serves is around 5 years).

05-13-2005, 05:21 PM	#39 (permalink)
RusCrimson Tilted Location: Massachusetts	Plus, previous posters were correct in identifying this whole thing as Jesuit trickery. And the Dan Browns of the world identify Opus Dei as the problem. Ha! He's wrong: It's the Jesuits.

05-15-2005, 10:50 AM	#40 (permalink)
timalkin Addict Location: watching from the treeline	I read the entire "Left Behind" series of books, and I'm seeing some startling similiarities between the books and real life. There's supposed to be 7 years of tribulation once the Anti-Christ comes to power, then Jesus returns to kick ass. If it's true that the Mayan calendar ends in 2012... 2012-2005= 7 years. __________________ Trinity: "What do you need?" Neo: "Guns. Lots of guns." -The Matrix