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Zeraph · 02-16-2005, 03:12 PM

Some how my email got out to these scams that I'm guessing are related. I was wondering if anyone else has been getting them. Here are 2 samples.

Quote:

Dear Friend,

I got your address via the internet. I have a proposal for you - this
however
is not mandatory nor will I in any manner compel you to honour against
your
will.

I am 49, and work with a bank (one of the African leading banks in the
West
Coast). Here in this bank existed a dormant account for the past 8
years
which belong to a Lebaon national who is now late.

When we discovered that there had been no deposits nor withdrawals from
this account for this long period, I and my two other colleagues
decided
to out a system
investigation and discovered that non of the family member nor
relations
of the late Lebarnies is aware of this account.

This is the story in a nutshell. Now we want an account overseas where
we
can transfer this funds. There after, we had planned to destroy all
related
documents for this account. It is a careful network and for the past
eleven
months we have worked out everything to ensure a hitch-free opperation.

The amount is not so much at the moment and plus all the accumulated
interest
the balance in this account stands at-(US$ 10.5 million US dollars).

Now our questions are:-

1. Can you handle this project?

2. Can we give you this trust?

3. What will be your commission?

Consider this and get back at us as soon as possible.

Finally, it is our humble prayer that the information as contained
herein
be accorded the necessary attention, urgency as well as the secrecy it
deserves.
We Expect your urgent response if you can handle this project.
Respectfully yours,
Ahmed Kokou.

Quote:

Unclaimed Inheritance fund/Relative(Keys)
PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL
Dear Keys,
I am Barrister John Great an advocate and Solicitor. I am the Personal
Attorney to Mr. Fredrick Keys a foreigner,who used to work with
European
Development Company in Nigeria.On The 21st of April 2001, my client
his
wife and their three children were involved in a car accident along
Sagbama
Express Road.All ccupants of the vehicle unfortunately lost their
lives.

Since then I have made several enquiries to his embassy to see if i
can
locate any of my clients extended relatives, this has all the while
roved
unsuccessful. After these several unsuccessful attempts,I decided to
trace
his relatives (i.e. same surname) over the Internet, to locate any
member
of his family but of no avail, hence I contacted you.

I have contacted you to assist in repatriating the money left behind
by
my client before it is confiscated or declared unserviceable by the
bank
where this huge deposit were lodged. Particularly, the Bank where the
deceased
had an account valued at about 15.5 million dollars has issued me a
notice
to provide the next of kin to the deceased or have the account
confiscated
within the next twenty one official working days. Since i have been
unsuccessful
in locating the relatives for over 2 years now I seek your consent to
present you as the next of kin of the deceased since you are still a
foreigner,
so that the proceeds of this accounvalued at $15.5million USD can be
paid
to you and then you and me can share the money, 60% to me and 35% to
you,
while 5% should be for expenses or tax as your government may require.
I have all necessary legal documents that can be used to back up any
claimwe
may make.

All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us see this deal
through.I
guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement
that
will protect you from any breach of the law.

Barrister John Great
John Great and Associates (Attorney at law)

I decided to respond to one to mess with them, Ill let you all know how it turns out.

Dingo2879 · 02-16-2005, 03:15 PM

I'm curious as to what your response will be.. Sounds like someone put alot of time into that little scam.

Molo · 02-17-2005, 07:32 AM

Sounds like the Nigerian scam to me.

Best not to get involved.

zerosk8 · 02-17-2005, 08:20 AM

That sounds very well thought out.....not just thought about on the spot!

superredhead · 02-17-2005, 08:55 AM

wow, they really worked on this one. the sad thing is, ive known quite a few elderly people who have actually fallen for scams like these. it's really sad how they can be swindled out of their life savings by a couple of con artists

NCB · 02-17-2005, 12:43 PM

Yeah, that's the old Nigerian Bank scam. Here are some pretty amusing rebuttals to it.

Rebuttals

superiorrain · 02-18-2005, 12:28 PM

I never get any spam and never understood why, but more to the point thanks for showing these examples of email scams. I still don't understand why people fall for these things, surely they go into it with false hope. I wonder if there is anyway to scam the scammers. I may ponder this now but anyone has any suggestions then put them down. Maybe we could come up with the ultimate scams and surely it would be if you could scam these people.

flstf · 02-18-2005, 12:41 PM

I received this one not long ago from ojwdiamondlottos@zwallet.com:
Anyone want to claim the prize, be my guest, LOL.

Quote:

DIAMOND LOTTO SOUTH AFRICA,
JOHANNESBURG,SOUTH AFRICA.
TEL/FAX: 27-115076871

FROM: THE DESK OF THE PROMOTIONS MANAGER,yyd
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT,
REF: DLS/5181/7390007/04
BATCH: 2101/14/LPP

ATTENTION:

RE: AWARD NOTIFICATION; FINAL NOTICE
We are pleased to inform you of the announcement today, kom12TH SEPTEMBER 2004, of
winners of the DIAMOND LOTTO SOUTH AFRICA/INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS, held on 28TH
JUNE 2004.
You/Your company, attached to ticket number 025-1146-1992-750, with serial number 2113-05 drew the
lucky numbers 7, 16, 22, 31, 3, 58, and consequently won in the Third Category.

You have therefore been approved for a lump sum pay out of US$1,600,000.00 in cash credited to file REFNO.DLS/5181/7390007/04.This is from total prize money of US$12,800,000.00 shared among the
eight international winners in the Third category.Participants were selected through a computer ballot
system drawn from 25,000 names/email addresses from Africa, America, Asia, Australia,Canada, Europe,
Middle East, and New Zealand as part of our International Promotions Program.

CONGRATULATIONS!
Due to the mix up of some numbers and names, we ask that you keep this award strictly from public
notice until your claim has been processed and your money remitted to your account. This is part of our
security protocol to avoid double claiming or unscrupulous acts by participants of this program.

We hope with a part of your prize, you will participate in our end of year (2004) high stakes US$1.3
billion International Lottery.To process your claim, please contact your claim agent immediately;

MR. JAMES AKATA,
FOREIGN SERVICE MANAGER,
EMAIL: akata5000@indiatimes.com

For due processing and remittance of your prize money to a designated account of your choice. Remember, you must contact your claim agent not later than 20TH SEPTEMBR 2004. After this date, all
funds will be returned as unclaimed.

NOTE: In order to avoid unnecessary delays and complications, please remember to quote your
reference and batch numbers in every one of your correspondences with your claims agent.
Furthermore,should there be any change of your address, do inform your claims agent as soon as possible. Congratulations once again from all our staff and thank you for being part of our promotions
program.

Sincerely,

THE PROMOTIONS MANAGER,
DIAMOND LOTTO SOUTH AFRICA.

N.B. Any breach of confidentiality on the part of the winners will result to disqualification. Please do not reply to this mail. Contact your claims agent.

Jimellow · 02-18-2005, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCB

Yeah, that's the old Nigerian Bank scam. Here are some pretty amusing rebuttals to it.

Rebuttals

Quote:

RE: 10% WILL BE FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT MIGHT ARISE TOWARDS THE TRANSFER

Please explain what kind of transfer expenses could accrue to 2.5 million USD.
How is this possible,a nd who will get this money, if it is paid?

Funny stuff! Thanks for the link.

Zeraph · 02-19-2005, 09:16 AM

Bah, I got a canned response. In my response I had said 5% commission, and he goes on in this one to say 30%...oh how generous of him! rofl. I was hoping to waste some of his time. Oh well, I don't plan on responding again unless you guys can think of a good response to get him to actually waste some of his time on a non canned response. Here is the email.

Quote:

Dear friend,

I received with thanks your e-mail response as regards to my proposal.
Firstly I must assure you that this transaction is 100% risk free.
Before going ahead to detail you on how we are to execute this deal, i must
let you know my intention of contacting you.

I intend to establish a long lasting relationship with you, I here by
urge you to make an investment research and discover with immediate
effect the type of lucrative investment that this fund will be used on as
soon as it may arrive your overseas-designated bank account.

Because upon your confirmation of this fund in your account, I shall
join you over there in your domain for proper utilisation of this fund on
investment. Plans has been completely laid down on how we are to
execute this deal without any hitch, i of this view wish to let you know that
this transaction requires honesty and transparency from we both in
order for us to achieve.

Although we do not know each other too well in person, but believing
almighty God that we do things to his glory. Actually I got your contact
information from one of my friends that work with the external affairs
office here, but I did not go into asking him your details I am not
asking you to take me by my words alone, but that I will make you the real
and legitimate next of kin to the deceased with all information’s and
proofs relating to this in my position.

Though I shall require an assurance from you, of me having access to
this fund when it finally arrive your domain, more so that you will tell
no one of this deal even after being concluded.To further clarify you
on this issue I wish to detail you over the mapped out procedure on how
we are to go about this issue..

Procedure!!!!!

You will be required to file an application of claim to this fund as
the real and legitimate beneficiary of the fund. After filing the
application, the bank may reach you with several demand of information’s or
proofs relating to the deceased and its deposit which you shall need to
furnish them completely according by their demand.

After due and thorough verification of the application by the
designated board members of the bank, the application will be approved for
release of payment and onward transfer to your domain.

Remember that you are to rely on me pertaining any demand of
information’s or proofs that may be required from you by the bank on this
process, as i will be responsible in giving you all their required
information’s.

Note...this i shall be doing secretly without the consent of any one
knowing that i am your secret partner and an insider to the bank, because
if known may warrant to the raise of eyebrows by other official staffs
of the bank during the time of transfer. my dear have laid all
arrangements in connection to this affair ,all you need to do is to follow my
instructions, so that we shall sail through without hitch.

N/B. .As to the terms of the sharing percentage regarding the
entitlements of you and i in this affair, i am willing to offer you 30% of the
total sum as to be your entitlements after we succeeded in achieving as
planned ,while 5% will be used to offset what ever expenses we may
incurred on the process of actualising this, meaning that what ever
expenses one may incurred on this should be properly recorded and kept, for
reference during the time of disbursement, ,and the 65% will be for me
,which some part of it will be invested on lucrative investment where you
and i may go into partnership as share holder based on our personal
agreement.

Kindly go through this message carefully and get back to me with your
understanding and readiness to champion as stated here in .As soon as
you may reach me again, stating your interest and assurance over this
deal, i shall send to you the specimen of application which you shall
fill and send to the bank for this great deal, which I firmly believe will
be of immense benefit to both of us after being concluded.

Awaiting your response,
Regards ,

Ahmed Kokou.

Benji · 02-19-2005, 04:53 PM

lmao stupid scams

Dyze · 02-20-2005, 02:46 PM

If in doubt, there are a lot of pages like this http://www.truthorfiction.com/ which handle scam and tell you whats behind it.
Whoever thinks about those stories has serious writing skills.

drakers · 02-21-2005, 12:44 PM

How stupid could someone give their account information because some email said they will get a lot of money if they do this "thing"?? Must be some really stupid people in this country for us to be aware of this, and I guess their are the elderly who may not understand everything about the Internet, but your account info.? You never give that info. out.

squirrelyburt · 02-21-2005, 08:56 PM

Some of these scams are extremely complex, to the point of pesonal meetings in foreign countries. I know of a businessman who was taken for over $200k, met with the ''investor'' and everything...FBI wont look into it as it is't ''big enough''. Most are the Nigerian scam, really any country with a non retribution clause with the US can be involved.

thingstodo · 03-19-2005, 08:48 AM

I had some fun a few years ago messing with someone on these Nigerian scams. I acted by the end like I was mafia and sending someone over to kick their butts. Even sent some photos.

weapon26 · 03-19-2005, 08:55 AM

I have countless emails saved from messing with these people. One of them even called me from the Netherlands! Apparently the Nigerians are banking out of the Netherlands. I have 8 pages worth of correspondence between me and some lady scammer (if she was really a woman). She sent me pictures of herself and her daughters and her supposedly dead husband's casket. She was asking me for rent money and such. I sent her love poems, convinced her I was in Amsterdam to meet her. Ah, funny stuff. I just hope they don't track me down and turn my hand into an ashtray.

** These people can be scammed back. I know of friends who have had money sent to them from the scammers. Say you need a minimum of $250 to open up a new bank account for these transactions, and they have sent Americans money to do so. One friend of mine recieved a check for 250,000 Rupees. His bank wouldn't cash it though.

Tarl Cabot · 03-21-2005, 08:49 PM

So no one has seen the Church of the Red Breast response?

The picture of Joe is my favorite.

Link

c172g · 03-30-2005, 01:17 PM

The original post is a classic 419 letter.

We had several Nigerian inquiries (also two today to Brooklyn, NY, everybody wants to order lots of stuff on credit cards). I screwed with one guy a year ago & told him the stuff was on the way. He kept asking for tracking numbers. I strung him along for about three weeks. Finally, I wrote a letter to him explaining what a dumb ass he was & really gave it to him. I got a death threat. So far, so good, I'm still alive!

Be careful who you screw with, we talked with the secret service regarding these things (we actually shipped some empty boxes to Nigeria to try & bust one ring, but once they got to the post office, the "purchasers" were tipped off by someone who worked at the post office), they STRONGLY suggested you simply delete the e-mails, many do have ties to the US and are gang related.

Sargeman · 03-30-2005, 01:52 PM

Wait until you start receiving the "You have won the Spanish Lottery" scam.

I got that letter and it looked official and everything. The funny thing is my parents had been to Spain about 6months prior so I almost fell for it..... until they asked for my bank account number. Yeah right!

Coppertop · 03-30-2005, 02:25 PM

People do fall for these things. Ever heard of something called the Jamaican Switch/Pigeon Drop? I served on a jury that ultimately convicted someone of said crime. I was amazed at how many people fell for it.

Crisscross · 03-30-2005, 02:44 PM

Ha ha, heres another scam!!!

Protect yourself from the Nigerian scammers by buying a book...lol

Crisscross · 03-30-2005, 02:45 PM

Ooopps forgot the link.....http://www.nigerianscambuster.com

Hain · 03-30-2005, 09:40 PM

Oh my... those made me laugh. Thank you for sharing Zeraph. I love these people online. I create completely new email accounts to simply screw with them. Having 50 Gmail invites are helpful, especially when I am so lazy as to invite my Gmail account ANOTHER GMAIL ACCOUNT!

Yes I am the ass that messes with the innocent telemarketers who call me up at dinner time or when I am having a dream of some amazingly hot babe. YES, they called at 11:00pm!

Zeraph · 04-02-2005, 08:23 PM

Yet another spin off. They need to spice it up a little, why always Nigeria?

Quote:

Dear Sir Or Madam,

I am Barrister Jeff W. Coker,a solicitor at law. I am the personal
attorney
to Mr.Eward,a national of your country, who used to work with a
petroleum
Company in Nigeria. Here in after shall be referred to as my client.On
the
21st of April 2001, my client, his wife and their only daughter were
involved
in a car accident along sagbama express road.All occupants of the
vehicle
unfortunately lost there lives. Since thenI have made several enquiries
to your embassy here to locate any of my clients extended relatives,
this
has also proved unsuccessful. After these several unsuccessful
attempts,
I decided to track his last name over the Internet,to locate any member
of his family hence I contacted you.

I have contacted you to assist in repartrating the fund valued at
US$13million
Left behind by my client before it gets Confisicated or declared
unservice
able by the International African Bank Plc where this huge amount were
deposited.The
International African Bank Plc has issued me a notice to provide the
next
of kin or have the account confisicated within the next fourteen
official
working days.

For the fact that I have been unsuccesfull in locating the relatives
for
over 3 years now, I seek the consent to present you as the next of kin
to
the deceased,since you have the same last name with my client, so that
the
proceeds of this account can be paid to you. Therefore, on receipt of
your
positive response, we shall then discuss the sharing ratio and
modalities
for transfer. I have all necessary information and legal documents
needed
to back you up for claim. All I require from you is your honest
cooperation
to enable us see this transaction through. I guarantee that this will
be
executed under legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any
breach
of the law.

the_dave · 04-03-2005, 10:38 PM

I ocasionally get this email telling me to verify my ebay account info with personal info such as my credit card number, am i the only one? i doubt it.

c172g · 04-06-2005, 11:41 AM

The Ebay one looks amazingly real, just type in your name JOE DUMBASS and enter any information you like. When it comes to a credit card number type anything. It will accept whatever you put in. You should also forward a copy of the e-mail to Ebay, they do research them.

d3cemberist · 04-08-2005, 05:36 PM

I fucking hate scammers. I've learned to steer clear of them. Heh.

wocidej · 04-09-2005, 11:10 AM

In the back of my mind I can see somewhere in Africa there is man who genuinely needs your help. He simply doesn't realize how suspicious it is to ask for your bank information. And that one man who stands alone in his innocence, despite his best efforts and cries for help, is without a doubt fucked.

02-17-2005, 07:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Molo Upright Location: Waterloo	Sounds like the Nigerian scam to me. Best not to get involved. __________________ Everyone on the Universal Serial Bus!

02-17-2005, 08:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
superredhead Crazy Location: Around So Cal.	wow, they really worked on this one. the sad thing is, ive known quite a few elderly people who have actually fallen for scams like these. it's really sad how they can be swindled out of their life savings by a couple of con artists __________________ yawn

02-18-2005, 12:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
superiorrain Psycho Location: London	I never get any spam and never understood why, but more to the point thanks for showing these examples of email scams. I still don't understand why people fall for these things, surely they go into it with false hope. I wonder if there is anyway to scam the scammers. I may ponder this now but anyone has any suggestions then put them down. Maybe we could come up with the ultimate scams and surely it would be if you could scam these people. __________________ "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." - Arthur C. Clarke

02-20-2005, 02:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
Dyze Crazy	If in doubt, there are a lot of pages like this http://www.truthorfiction.com/ which handle scam and tell you whats behind it. Whoever thinks about those stories has serious writing skills. __________________ Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do.

02-21-2005, 12:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
drakers Psycho Location: IOWA	How stupid could someone give their account information because some email said they will get a lot of money if they do this "thing"?? Must be some really stupid people in this country for us to be aware of this, and I guess their are the elderly who may not understand everything about the Internet, but your account info.? You never give that info. out. __________________ Friends don't shake hands, friends 'gotta HUG!

02-16-2005, 03:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dingo2879 Crazy Location: Lisle, IL	I'm curious as to what your response will be.. Sounds like someone put alot of time into that little scam.

02-17-2005, 08:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
zerosk8 Tilted	That sounds very well thought out.....not just thought about on the spot!

02-19-2005, 04:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Benji Upright Location: West Mids	lmao stupid scams

02-21-2005, 08:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
squirrelyburt Crazy Location: Central Wisconsin	Some of these scams are extremely complex, to the point of pesonal meetings in foreign countries. I know of a businessman who was taken for over $200k, met with the ''investor'' and everything...FBI wont look into it as it is't ''big enough''. Most are the Nigerian scam, really any country with a non retribution clause with the US can be involved. __________________ If you've ever felt there was a reason to be afraid of the dark, you were right.

03-19-2005, 08:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	I had some fun a few years ago messing with someone on these Nigerian scams. I acted by the end like I was mafia and sending someone over to kick their butts. Even sent some photos. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

03-19-2005, 08:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
weapon26 Upright	I have countless emails saved from messing with these people. One of them even called me from the Netherlands! Apparently the Nigerians are banking out of the Netherlands. I have 8 pages worth of correspondence between me and some lady scammer (if she was really a woman). She sent me pictures of herself and her daughters and her supposedly dead husband's casket. She was asking me for rent money and such. I sent her love poems, convinced her I was in Amsterdam to meet her. Ah, funny stuff. I just hope they don't track me down and turn my hand into an ashtray. ** These people can be scammed back. I know of friends who have had money sent to them from the scammers. Say you need a minimum of $250 to open up a new bank account for these transactions, and they have sent Americans money to do so. One friend of mine recieved a check for 250,000 Rupees. His bank wouldn't cash it though.

03-21-2005, 08:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tarl Cabot Banned Location: Gor	So no one has seen the Church of the Red Breast response? The picture of Joe is my favorite. Link

03-30-2005, 01:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
c172g Crazy Location: Michigan	The original post is a classic 419 letter. We had several Nigerian inquiries (also two today to Brooklyn, NY, everybody wants to order lots of stuff on credit cards). I screwed with one guy a year ago & told him the stuff was on the way. He kept asking for tracking numbers. I strung him along for about three weeks. Finally, I wrote a letter to him explaining what a dumb ass he was & really gave it to him. I got a death threat. So far, so good, I'm still alive! Be careful who you screw with, we talked with the secret service regarding these things (we actually shipped some empty boxes to Nigeria to try & bust one ring, but once they got to the post office, the "purchasers" were tipped off by someone who worked at the post office), they STRONGLY suggested you simply delete the e-mails, many do have ties to the US and are gang related.

03-30-2005, 01:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
Sargeman Insane Location: Texas	Wait until you start receiving the "You have won the Spanish Lottery" scam. I got that letter and it looked official and everything. The funny thing is my parents had been to Spain about 6months prior so I almost fell for it..... until they asked for my bank account number. Yeah right! __________________ ...because there are no facts, there is no truth, just data to be manipulated. I can get you any results you like, what's it worth to you.....

03-30-2005, 02:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	People do fall for these things. Ever heard of something called the Jamaican Switch/Pigeon Drop? I served on a jury that ultimately convicted someone of said crime. I was amazed at how many people fell for it.

03-30-2005, 02:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
Crisscross Upright	Ha ha, heres another scam!!! Protect yourself from the Nigerian scammers by buying a book...lol

03-30-2005, 02:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
Crisscross Upright	Ooopps forgot the link.....http://www.nigerianscambuster.com

03-30-2005, 09:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Oh my... those made me laugh. Thank you for sharing Zeraph. I love these people online. I create completely new email accounts to simply screw with them. Having 50 Gmail invites are helpful, especially when I am so lazy as to invite my Gmail account ANOTHER GMAIL ACCOUNT! Yes I am the ass that messes with the innocent telemarketers who call me up at dinner time or when I am having a dream of some amazingly hot babe. YES, they called at 11:00pm! __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\

04-03-2005, 10:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
the_dave Upright Location: Right Here	I ocasionally get this email telling me to verify my ebay account info with personal info such as my credit card number, am i the only one? i doubt it. __________________ Rock'n & Shock'n Baby!

04-06-2005, 11:41 AM	#26 (permalink)
c172g Crazy Location: Michigan	The Ebay one looks amazingly real, just type in your name JOE DUMBASS and enter any information you like. When it comes to a credit card number type anything. It will accept whatever you put in. You should also forward a copy of the e-mail to Ebay, they do research them.

04-08-2005, 05:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
d3cemberist Crazy	I fucking hate scammers. I've learned to steer clear of them. Heh.

04-09-2005, 11:10 AM	#28 (permalink)
wocidej Upright	In the back of my mind I can see somewhere in Africa there is man who genuinely needs your help. He simply doesn't realize how suspicious it is to ask for your bank information. And that one man who stands alone in his innocence, despite his best efforts and cries for help, is without a doubt fucked.