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Old 01-28-2005, 06:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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World Trade Centre - Faces in the Smoke

I've been looking at some paranormal stuff this week, and i came across this, which i thought was pretty interesting

basically just some interesting formations in the smoke/explosions, during the attacks on the WTC; which resemble faces

site-> http://riptx.dns2go.com/wtc.htm













the face of god... apparently


some bird type creature?
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Our brains are programmed to recognize faces. That causes us to see faces in anything remotely facelike.
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I doubt it's that much different from seeing a cloud shaped like a duck, or a resemblance to a symbol or something on the stub of a sawed off tree branch, you know what i mean? I think it's nothing more than a coincidence... if those photos are even real (people with some skill at photoshop can pull off some crazy stuff).
 
Old 01-28-2005, 09:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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At least one of those photos is real and un-doctored, but you're right appleseed, if you want to see a face, you'll see a face. There's a "face" on Mars formed by some rock formations. There was a face in the stucco above my bed that freaked me out at night time for most of my childhood.

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Old 01-28-2005, 11:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I never thought that this useless tid bit of knowledge would come in handy.
Yes the human brain is programmed to put things together so that it will recognize things that may not be there.
Now studies show that people who can recognize things quickly or are good with spotting "what's wrong with this image" actually have a better ability to learn. This is because of their ability to qucikly see the image in their mind's eye and scan it there faster than their eyes.
And you ask how do you get this? Well most of us should have passed this point in our lives. By watching cartoons at the ages of 3 years of age to 6 years, and in between 12 years to 14-15ish years. Your brain goes through it's own growth spurts then and learns how to learn the most. And by watching cartoons all those years you were actually learning how to quickly recognize in your mind's eye.
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Old 01-29-2005, 09:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't think it was anything but coincidental that we recognize those faces in the smoke as demons.
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Old 01-29-2005, 07:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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With such a horrific event it is definitely human nature to think of the clouds as demons.
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Old 01-29-2005, 11:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think they're photoshopped. This is the first time I've heard of faces being seen in the clouds of the towers and with all the religious implications going around nowadays, this doesn’t' surprise me a bit.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yea, it wouldn't surprise me if they're fake, but you can never be sure and rule out the possibilities. But seeing as this is the first time i've heard about these strange faces i highly doubt whether there's anything to the images.
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Old 01-30-2005, 07:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The faces are real and entirely coincidental. The bird type creature is the mysterious creature known as a seagull.

Think about how much smoke poured out of those buildings in the time that they were burning. If you have a continuous video feed, you should expect that the random patterns form a recognizable figure in one of the 24 fames that flash by each second for hours.
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Old 02-01-2005, 12:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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September 11th was a horrific day, I was not too far from the buildings that day, it was the most cruel thing ever. I have seen the faces in the news before but didn't really think much of it. What really got me is a picture that 'Times Magazine' published, I believe in October in 2001, it was so sad, people hanging out of the buildings, jumping from 80-something floor. It makes my skin crawl when I think of it.
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I've seen the second picture before......the one with the "bird" type figure.......thats puzzleing....its too big to be a normal bird.......it alsmost looks like a dragon or something
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Old 02-07-2005, 08:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think they're photoshopped. This is the first time I've heard of faces being seen in the clouds of the towers and with all the religious implications going around nowadays, this doesn’t' surprise me a bit.
No, they are real. I remember being told about the faces right after it happened. I looked at the video that was on cnn.com at the time, and sure enough, there they were.

Of course it is only a coincidence. You can find faces in anything. Remember when you were a kid, and you thought you saw the face of a monter in your closet, but when you turn the light on, it is only your clothes?
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Old 02-07-2005, 01:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I remember seeing these pictures on one of those tabloid magazines you see at the marketplace. I just assumed they were fake. Does anyone know if the one picture with the flying creature is really faked or not? And what have people said it to be?
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Old 02-07-2005, 03:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The bird looks like a perfectly normal seagull. Don't compare it to the building, it's not that deep in the picture, more likely somewhere between the two lamp-posts by the trees.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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the faces are strange but they dont surprise me much, the bird prolly just looks bigger than normal because of the angle or somethin like that
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:03 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'd put it down to coincidence myself.
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Old 03-01-2005, 10:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Ah yes, as many others have pointed out, our brains are programmed to recognize patterns, not just faces (though that is the most common).

It's known as pareidolia. It's essentially just looking for something familiar in something that is unfamiliar. Such as seeing objects in the clouds, or the face of the virgin mary in a grilled cheese sandwich.

Pareidolia also works with the idea of priming. Sometimes people won't see something in the smoke until you tell them what to look for. Such as in this case, some people may not have been able to see the 'face of the devil' in the first picture, until you told them that they were looking strictly at the face, and not the body. The first time I saw the picture I thought it looked more like a tely-tubby. Of course then this works on a double level of priming, because we are told to look for the face of the devil, even though no one (supposedly), has even seen the face of the devil, we have just seen renditions of him in pieces of art (movies, tv, books, etc.). We just think we see the devil because that's what we're told to associate a menacing face with horns with. Who knows, maybe if the devil does exist, he looks like something completely different.

If you want another example of priming, just think of those crazy backwards songs, like Led Zeppelin's 'Stairway to Heaven'. I'm sure most have at least heard about the portion of the track that you play backwards and supposedly hear things about worshipping the devil. But most people don't realize what is actually being said backwards until they are told what they are supposed to hear.

Wow, I never thought philosophy class would help out an Engineer like myself.

The last one looks interesting though. It's probably just a seagull though. I think it's more in the foreground than it appears.
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Old 03-02-2005, 07:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Its human nature to 'personify' and look for the familiar in things. No different than 'seeing' objects in clouds. Its just our perspective.
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:13 PM   #20 (permalink)
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i believe the bird thing is obviously photoshopped, like come on
the rest of it is pretty interesting actually, i find the human brain fasinating and how if someone says "do u see this" we usually see it
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The bird is definitelly closer than it seems. Since it's a 2d picture, there is no way for you to really tell the distance to the bird, so you can imagine it being any size you want. You can imagine that the bird is flying 1 meter from the camera and you'll think that it's some sort of yet undiscovered dwarf species.
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:28 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I read something (on TFP or somewhere else) about the alarms going off and people moving to a safer area...with debris falling all around which happened to be random body parts...and looking up - seeing people jump from 30 stories or higher...oh my...it still haunts me...
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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cool devil face
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Old 03-23-2005, 07:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Seagulls have never looked so dragonlike!
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The bird picture was quite interesting at first. But to me it looks like the bird is probably right above those 2 yellow signs you see back their, and flying at a diagonal angle to the street, sort of facing the red building with windows on the edge. The reason the neck looks so elongated and arched is because you are also seeing the tip of the bird's right wing due to the angle of the picture.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 04-22-2005, 04:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Cool, obscure and unexpected Indiana Jones and The Fate of Atlantis reference :-D

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