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Old 01-07-2005, 02:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
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If you want concrete proof of evolution, look at viruses. Penicillin now is far less effective then it was when first discovered, due to the fact that the strains of viruses most resilient to it have survived better. The same thing happens with all life, those that have certain features which enable them to live better generally do better.
A virus is not considered "Alive" by science....but I am just picking on you...heh

I just got my most recent discover magazine.....on the cover:

Testing Darwin

Scientists at Michigan State
Prove evolution works



Havent read the article yet, but will give a briefing when I do.
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Old 01-08-2005, 05:53 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Bah, close enough. They're more alive than Adam and Eve.
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Old 01-08-2005, 12:32 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I just got my most recent discover magazine.....on the cover:

Testing Darwin

Scientists at Michigan State
Prove evolution works
National Geographic recently had a similar piece called something like "Was Darwin Wrong?". Ended up just being mostly fluff, which was pretty disappointing. I was hoping for a good critique, but it ended up being a run down of the theory of evolution and the history of Darwin forumlating it.

I suppose though it's good that magazines are bringing the issue up, seeing as half or so of America doesn't think evolution happens.
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:12 PM   #44 (permalink)
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If you want concrete proof of evolution, look at viruses. Penicillin now is far less effective then it was when first discovered, due to the fact that the strains of viruses most resilient to it have survived better. The same thing happens with all life, those that have certain features which enable them to live better generally do better.
I think you mean bacteria. Medicines aren't very good at eliminating viral diseases. That's why we can clone animals but can't cure the common cold.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:43 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe there is a shred of scientific evidence to suggest it. I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I'm not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41977
Congratulations! You, my friend, are a bonafide imbecile. Where do they find these people anyway? Why are we still debating something that has become a scientifically proven fact? Do some people really believe 'the devil' planted fossilized evidence that proves evolution occurs?
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:48 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I have a question I like to ask creationists: Do you like Shrimp?

At this point, I generally get to refer them to Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10.

Jesus had a lot to say about hypocrits, but nothing about the origin of species (or gays, for that matter.)

Becuase Daddy said so is an argument that shouldn't be taken seriously by grown ups, folks.
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Old 01-16-2005, 10:16 PM   #47 (permalink)
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i'd say that the reason noone called in is because this guy is so batshit insane that only his kindred spirits listen in and praise him, forming a weird, distorted reality in which it seems to him that everyone agrees with his ideas.
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:19 PM   #48 (permalink)
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The bible makes no mention of dinosaurs...
The word dinosaur didn't exist when the bible was written so there's no way it would flat out mention it, but some creationists argue that the mention of the Behemoth in the book of Job is evidence of dinosaurs:

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

But really all creationists point to is the part about having a tail like a cedar. They don't talk about this huge "dinosaur" being able to be shouded by reeds or having bones of iron (?). Creationists also talk of the Leviathan (not sure where mentioned) as being proof of a ocean dwelling dino, but again the descriptions are ambiguous and vague and open to interpretation.
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Old 01-20-2005, 10:18 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Hmm, the guy seems to be nuts, but the only interesting thing I did see was the thing about dragons. I don't see it as "proof", but it is at least something to think about. Who knows, maybe there were a few dinos here and there during that time, and we just haven't found the remains yet.

That being said, I can't say I am worried about any dinos stepping on my house.
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Old 01-20-2005, 11:09 AM   #50 (permalink)
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This guy talks about evidence, then all he provides is hearsay and conjecture.
Well, those are kinds of evidence -- Lionel Hutz
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