John Titor, Real Time Traveler
 

I just found about this guy from a link from Sledge. Apparently he is a real time traveler from the year 2036. This is really interesting and makes you wonder about some things. Although, he said some of this stuff about a civil war was going to start in 2004 and that sounds a little soon for me. Do you think he's for real? http://www.johntitor.com/

That is quite convincing, although I do have some doubts. I would've liked to talk to him.

indeed intriguing. I wont say whether i would believe it or not because i don't know really what to think. it is interesting to read though. either it's true or someone had a shitload of time on their hands. and i mean a LOT

Here are some pictures of the time machine and schematics.


http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/fetch2.jpg
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/PT2.jpg
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/PT3.jpg http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/fetch6.jpg
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/fetch.jpg


That last one I found particularly strange. See how the laser bends? The beam is being bent by the gravitational field produced by the distortion unit. This picture is supposed to be from the year 2035 during John's training and the man in the picture is his instructor.

Looks suspiciously similar to a flux capacitor.

Seriously though, I had a good read through the site and found it very entertaining. That guy seems to know what he's talking about.

Do I think he's for real? No.

He does seem to know what hes talking about but the part about where he could leave a message on the internet in this worldline and be able to recover it in another but not being able to remember making it didnt make much since

Time Travel is possible, but not to your world. You go to different world Alternate reality, Parallel Worlds. It is common knowledge that, if you do somehow make to the world you lived in, it would cause such disruption that the Universe will begin to experience Time Shocks which is event happening out of order, such as dinosaurs walking the earth, civil war, W II, 9/11, and so forth and so forth. These events will keep on happening until the space-time continuum explodes. The only way to travel in to your own earth is with a Null Field. Which vibrates you out of synch with time continuum. As of yet though the Null Field hasn't been proven a success.

This was supposed to be a quote by Titor:
"Your example of what people would do based on something I might say is accurate. However, my concern would be the potential actions of a single person, not the masses. In 1963, if I suggested that someone should watch the book depository windows as the President went by, the actions of a single person might have a huge impact on history. You also asked if I've visited my "past" family. That's where I am now."
Why did he use an analogy of Kennedy's assassination? He makes it seem as if he had very little education as a youth and when he was older history lessons were very limited. I know it's knitpicking, but is this really an example someone from his furture would use?

edit:
More contradictions. Our money is usable as currency in the future. This makes no sense. The federal government has fallen, the federal reserve bank is probably gone with as well. Money from today would be as valued as money from the Confederacy of the Civil War, only for it's historical or collector's value.
"Automobiles are used mostly for sport and some transportation." Would this agrarian civilization have the resources to refine petroleum for sporting purposes?
The new federal government is situated in Omaha Nebraska. Currently the U.S. Strategic Command (formerly Strategic Air Command) is at Offutt Air Base in Bellevue Nebraska located 10 miles from downtown Omaha. According to Titor, when the bombs start falling they take out all major cities and military installations. WTF, did the Russians forget to bomb one of the most important military sites in North America, or is the new Federal Government located in one of the most highly radioactive locations in the country?

Although quite entertaining, this guy doesn't convince me. He sure has put a lot of research into it though. We'll just have to wait and see...

"Wait and see" would probably be the most practical and easily performed method of travelling to the future anyway...

As I said in the thread in the general discussion, I think he's a fake.

Of course time travel is possible.

The problem is, we only know how to go forward right now :)

Probably a liar but anything is possible.

That bent laser seems suspiciously similar to a fiber optic tube that has a rough surface in order to allow the sides to light up.

And only at the rate of one second per second.

even though this guy is probably one of the best story tellers out there, he does seem pretty damn convincing. some of the stuff he has predicted has come true, or their is support right now in current events that could lead to some of his predictions coming true.

i was browsing around reading a message board that is pretty much dedicated to analyzing the "facts" that he provided. some of the stuff is pretty intriguing.

some of the things that i've read kinda get me second guessing if this guy is for real or not.

Well, there are just too many reasons (in my mind anyway) why this isnt possible. But still, I have to agree that that guy a pretty damn smart. I went through the entire site and he was pretty convicing. Maybe it was just a hobby of his to try to fool as many people as possible. The thing is, most people really WANT to believe it (wouldnt that be cool?) but deep down, I dont think anybody really does. I dont know if I really want 3 billions people to die in 2015, but I guess it would be sort of "cool" to know time traveling is possible. Anyway, that guy would make a great sect leader.

I am not about judge this guy. I am skeptical, as I should be, but there's also one argument that could be made, which will halt any counter-argument, because neither side can be proved to be correct or incorrect.

Think about the obvious: If at any time in the future, someone invents a time machine that could go to a specific reality (and, since by definition the future holds infinite possibilities, this WILL happen, at some time, in some reality), they could visit any point in the past. This means that if NOW is the past for them, there could, and should, be an infinite number of visitors from the future hanging around, because the future itself is inifinte.

It boggles the mind, doesn't it?

man if that war thing is right then well shit.... i'm so fucked :(

something that i noticed and since i'm very tired after readin majority of the site is that, and i dont know if this has been noted yet, is that he come in 2000 right same year bush is elected then a war happens in 2004 next year the year bush could loose his power, so if bush is that power hungry why wouldent he put up a fight the other thing i noticed is that he points out, sry i cant quote this, is that he points out FL's state vote thingie, cant rember its name lol sry i havent voted yet lol, but any way i wanted to know what ya thing about that

Spoken like someone who was stationed there.

Well he kept talking about time lines, there is no guarentee that this is the future for our time line, besides the time is to be dictated like an open book, if everything where pre-determined well... I dunno, guess we will have to wait two years to find out.

Nice guess, but nope. When I read Titor mentioned Omaha something clicked about the old movie Strategic Air Command and that base being located in Omaha. After a few minutes of Googling (and Mapquesting) I was able to come up with that tidbit. Granted the guy was very good, but if you look at his statement skeptically you can find holes in his logic.
Nefir uses great logic and it would be true if time travel became available to the average citizen. Suppose the technology to create the time travel device needed supporting technology which was beyond the capability of the average person? (Think nuclear bombs.) Then only governments or organizations with advanced enough research facilities would be able to create a time machine. This would severely limit the number of travellers going anywhere, including here and now. Sorry Nefir, just being my typically skeptical self.

Actually using the PATRIOT Act, Bush (along with Ashcroft) already has made a power grab. If you're not familiar with it, you should do some research. If you are familiar with it and you think it's a good idea, then God help you.
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but it had to be said.

I'd just like to say that I found this whole thread and the link really interesting. Thanks for poasting it.

Well now china is in space like he said and CERN http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/10/17/net_speed031017

i have 2 comments on this one.

1st the future is infinite and as the old addage goes an infinte number of munkies could write shakespear (or build a time machine)

2nd in all acutallity to build a time machine you would need a ungodly amount of Anti-Matter (imaginary matter) to go back wards and to go forwards thru time ud need about the mass of jupiter to go at a rate of 3:1 (3 years for every one year inside) and all of this would have to be situated around you at a proper distance of 2.6 meters (if im not mistaken)

Of course time travel is possible. Haven't any of you seen Donnie Darko?

/Sarcasm

In one post he says the civil war will start in 2004, and another he says 2005.

I guess this is extreme nitpicking... but.. EH.

He also said that Health Care in the Future is comparable to Western Films, where if you get a serious disease, you die. I find it.. hard to believe that they have technology to Time Travel and yet not to Cure Diseases that are Curable today.

I'm skeptical, but it's interesting.

I guess only time will tell if this fellow is right...

good entertainment. I do beleive it is possible. I have always been facinated by Time Travel and caught a lot of moments thinking about time itself.

It's fake, there was an article somewhere on the net about it, and that it's just another internet hoax - to no surprise. You gotta be pretty stupid to believe it.

hell i don't think he's for real, i don't believe it for a minute, but then again why did i just get really freaked while reading that website?

Kinda a lame reply.

I beleive it is possible and I beleive this until I see a reason not to beleive him.

I really encourage everyone just for a moment to stop debating on whether John Titor is actually a time traveller from 2036, and go through the site and read all his posts. It makes for a great read, and (hopefully) will freak you out like it did to me!!

The guy's brilliant. The physics may or may not be accurate but the social and political commentary he makes are amazing. Pay particular attention to his suggestions and recommendations, and his description of his future. Note his frustration with the hostility he sees from the other posters, and disgust with today's excessive, materialistic society and political events. And the commentary on the food we eat and trends in disease. I think that's the main point of story, not whether he's "for real" or not. Some of the things he describes don't sound like they'd be hard to predict if people can see the warning signs. To tell you the truth, I think that's the main reason I was freaked out.

He's obviously well trained in basic physics and is very sharp and insightful. Whether he's a time traveller or not he's created quite a stir and tells a great story -- he's very convincing.

Having said all that, I still don't believe that he's from 2036 but I'll never discount the possibility that something like this could actually be true. He told a very plausible story and was making a social comment on what the world might become. So hopefully the debate on whether he's "real" or not will not overshadow and blind people to the rest of what he's saying.

Fascinating. By the same logic, someone in the infinite future will invent a history eraser and will have erased us all by the time you

i dont belive it, but it is very interesting to read and think about

i think hes just crazy or joking, but i loved reading his site

Oh. You said John TITOR. I thought you said John RITTER. Never mind.

Well said. Arguing back and forth over whether or not he's real kind of misses the point.

It's a fun read. It'll make you think. If you read it at 4 AM like I did, it might creep you the fuck out. I have nothing but admiration for the writer for being able to spark such a lasting, intelligent Internet legend.

I think i remember reading somewhere that the story Titor tells is almost identical to the book "Alas, Babylon" just in the way the world is at the time Titor says he's from. Plus the book takes place in almost the same location in florida Titor claims to be from plus there are to many identical events to the book to even think that Titor is telling the truth. It may/maynot be true, but it's still a good read.