Heh, I was hoping the time machine wouldn't look like it was made in the 80's.

While some of his social/political commentary is spot-on, I don't buy it. Much of what he says is vague, and the kind of thing you would expect in thirty years. <- Let me explain.

Break any given century down in thirds, and jump from one-third to the next. Would-- could you possibly imagine half the technologies that exist? Though I didn't read all of his posts, the ones that I did were just too generic. And a lot of the stuff he talks about are just buzz-wordy. While I'm not a physicist, the explanations for actual time travel seem very vague, and the technologies/future issues just talk about implementing what was "hot" in 2000 (VoIP, Mad Cow Disease, UNIX having a Y2K-ish problem in 2038, etc.).

So, while it is cool, and entertaining the theory of an anonymous time-traveler come back to warn us of our self-destructive path is a bit creepy, I don't buy it.

Actually, the whole thing reminds me of the "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" incident.

Itchy93

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That's just my opinion; I could be wrong.

very entertaining indeed.

Well if he is a fake, he is certainly an intelligent fake. I guess will just have to stick around for another year or so to find out. Interesting reading anyway.

Hmm. There's no way to tell. Firstly, he was vague. Secondly, we no longer occupy the same 'worldline' as he does, which suggests we have diverged and now have the oppurtunity to change our future. Thirdly, his intervention means that butterfly effects are sweeping across the world, changing everything. Thats why vague and somewhat inevitable predictions like the Chinese space launch have come true. Every time someone new hears about John Titor, their lives change and the worldlines diverge further.

So, maybe its a hoax, maybe he really is from the future. Now, its no longer possible to tell.

Hope y'all don't mind the *BUMP*. I've recommended this thread to a few folks recently and most thought it was just as interesting as I did.

http://www.johntitor.com
is the site to check out (since we're on page 2 now).

The guy tells a good story, and I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on his social/political commentary. The guy started posting in 2000 and people are still talking about him. There's plenty of discussions on the net trying to debunk his story but to this day there is still no solid evidence/information that has done so.

If nothing else it's an entertaining read and might very well freak you out ;)

A world war in 2015 killed nearly three
billion people.

we'll have to see about that :D

Excellent "fiction". I have to admit it sucked me in. I started off only wanting to read the first month, and ended up reading the entire history of the posts!
His knowledge of physics and engineering, as well as his social commentary are very compelling. Someone either went to elaborate lengths so fool us, or............................

That's it =) The unknown. I guess we'll see if he's right by next year, and if he is, I'm so fucking off with a gun into the mountains it's not funny.

His timeline had Y2K and ours did not.

Time travel would not work because of the butterfly effect:

John Titor comes back in time, and all his predictions are untrue due to the "butterfly effect" that his presence here has changed the future.

But if he changed the future, then the future would be different and he would have never come back in the time machine in the first place.

So hah.

Did you even read his theory? He is not from _our_ future, he comes from an alternate timeline. Infinite parallel universes. For every choice that's able to be made, there's a universe where each outcome happened.

When I read this a few months back, I too was freaked out, but then I also heard somewhere that he was proven to be fake, unfortunately I don't have the link with me that disproves him.

Oh boy Robert Heinlein!
Or Sliders if thats more your thing!

The guy makes these predictions and then gives himself an out with 'alternate universes'. I wouldn't be surprised if we were bombed in 2015 thanks to some asshat who gave China a lot of missle tech in the 90's but even if it happened I wouldn't think this guy was real.

Even if he isn't real, he does make some good points about what a shithouse world we live in. And how to be prepared for a nuke strike =)

I need more Sliders in my life. Why, oh why, did it have to leave us.

At least John Rhys-Davies lives on in Gimli.

I had also heard somewhere that he'd started the shtick again elsewhere and someone traced his IP and revealed him. Not that I really care, or need any 'proof' to debunk this kind of thing.

In the 7th grade english classes where I worked, one of the required books to read was 'The Giver' a furturistic novel. Just glancing over the site featured, there are similarities in way of cummunity set-up, manner of dress, etc. Also, if he is from 2036, couldn't he have used a more recent car than one obviously from the 1960's??? If you want to be enthralled by the possibiltiy of seeing the future-read the writings of Nostradamus-at least we know he was from the distant past.

Read his site =) A modern car wouldn't have fit in very well in the 1960's, would it? =P

Very interesting. I enjoyed the read.

one of his first quotes is "I have nothing to sell."

Yeah? Then what's that banner ad at the top of the page selling the Titor story all about?

Sheesh, the guy perpetrated a hoax and now he's actuallygetting money for a book.

Dude's more full of shit than a stable.

This is false, we can travel forward in time faster then this due to that fact that time is relative.

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia...elativity.html

That is some pretty wierd stuff. Its kinda cool to think time travel possible but I have doubts this guy is for real.

i think it's possible but clearly this guy's a fake. i think it wouldn't even be a question if he were serious.

Hes a fake, It was proven a while back I wish I kept the link to the board that did it but this sums it up:

Pretty much he vanished then he comes back under another name as another prophesizer and then pretty much the person on the original board he posted on tracked his location and so on and then he finally cracked under a private message, the screenshot was posted after that.

He got all the stuff from some time machine game made in 1998, the name slips my mind.

Ill look a bit but this was a good 6 months ago so I doubt I can find it ><

To the pictures: IIRC, they are pictures of a machine in WWII that didnt work or some crap like that I really wish I payed more attention to this stuff but I figured no one would ever care again ^^

(I may sound like Im making this up since I have no sources Im just telling you what ive found Ide like to give a link but well the internets pretty big ><)

thats a pretty amazing book. i had to read it way back in 7th grade (almost 9 years ago).

One thing is for sure...this guy is brilliant! The more that I read the more I started to believe it. I do think time travel is possible, but it's one of those vociferous cycles that screws with your brain. It definately freaked me out, but now I am excited to see if it will be true...just to see if it is conceivable. Wow, good read.

I dunno, the way things are looking over in the politics board, if bush were to win again, especially if it was a close race, I could see civil unrest leading to a civil war.

Although, the only future date I am keeping an eye on is December 21, 2012.

Man, I got sucked into that sight BIG-TIME. I read for like 2 hours and then followed links to other scientific sights about string theory and different dimensions and.... I'm not sure if any of that stuff is true but I'll tell you what, he made some really good points about government being our enemy. Trading freedom for protection is a very bad idea. If government talks us out of our right to bear arms than we have no way to resist its complete control.

Whoa...weird stuff. Although I don't believe it, Im gonna go buy a gun.

It is a very facsinating website and like most of you said...only time will tell......

Plus if he was the real deal...the government would of had him locked up him up so fast.....and then questioned his ass....

Also as a side note...
Why the hell would General Electric made the time traveling device....i know they are a big company, but I would think other companies would come closer to making this technology......

The whole time travel idea is possible. I mean the faster matter is projected, the slower time is around it. So, In theory if he developed some way of going the "speed of light" ( very damn fast ) or even faster, he could have slowed time down so much that he went in reverse?

I found JohnTitor.com about a year ago. I read the whole thing five times over. It is very disturbing. It is hard to believe, but if you look at the events taking place in our world right now, it is not hard to imagine what he talks about taking place.

I'm with you 00111000. I told my wife after reading the site that just to be safe we were going to move to Nebraska and buy all of the guns I could get my hands on.

You can't go faster then the lightspeed. Or maybe Einstein was wrong........ then you can.

There was a group of scientists who made a beam of light travel faster than the speed of light =) They accelerated it, so it entered the special chamber they used after it left =D Wheee, spacetime!

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, nothing with mass -- like people or things -- can ever go faster than light. But something with no mass, like a packet of light waves known as a pulse, can.

You cant help but think there is some merit in such an elaborate story...he had me glued to my monitor for a few hours reading all the posts and commentary on the web about him.

Rationality says that it is just a very clever stroy...but you always have that thought in the back of your mind...you know the one..."what if it is true?"

I gues we'll find out later this year!

I also read somewhere that he had taken the whole story-line about the future from some online RPG or something.

I did a bunch of poking around about this guy a few months back. I found some crazy website where a few (maybe 3) crackpots were still mesmorized by the thing. One of them claimed to have seen Titor in dreams and thought he was actively involved in her life.

I also saw a similar thing somewhere where a guy started posting on a message board claiming to be an alien and was taking questions. A lot of people seemed to think it was the same guy.

reminds me of this.......

www.zetatalk.org

woman claimed she could predict future events because she was being channelled by a group of aliens called "zetas"

she pulled from the sitchin theories, but claimed that the earth would experience a pole shift in may or some such shit......

Do you have a link? As far as I've known no one has ever moved something faster than the speed of light. Well, 'cept Gamma rays and stuff like that.

The debate over whether or not he is telling is truth reminds me of the plot of Kpax. A man comes to earth and claims to be a visitor from a faraway planet. Despite some accurate information he provides, it's impossible to tell whether he is really who he says he is or insane.