teknophile

Alright, I don't like to talk about this. Mostly because alot of people would most likely think I'm off my rocker.

I don't really dream, I haven't had what I would call "a dream" since I was a very young child. I guess what I do have would be classified as dreams, but I don't like to call them as such because personally they are so much more. When I do "dream" which is not very often, I have very vivid "dreams" I can fully see my surroundings they are crisp and colorful just like real life. I am not a floating entity, nor viewing the "dream" in a 3rd person view. It is like it is now, completely coherent as if I weren't asleep at all. But I will get to the point, I dream the future. When I dream it happens, not really a deja vu persa, but completely as it happened in my dream.

For example: I had a dream when I was about 15, we were in my girlfriends backyard, I could feel the dew on my hands from the grass, we were sitting in a circle talking. I remembered the conversation but I cannot recall it now. I knew hand gestures and laughs before they were coming, I knew what each of us was going to say before it was said (not a generalization mind you, I knew each word and sentence before it was spoken.) I remembered sharing my pepsi and throwing the can into her trash bin on the patio. I remembered the leaves blowing and me looking at them when it happened. Every single event that happened I had already experienced. COMPLETELY, nothing could be unexpected because I already knew it was coming.

Now what could I say? I was understandably upset the entire time but I couldn't show it. What would I say? how would they take what I would have to say? What if I were to do something? What if a decision I made somehow completely screwed up my future? What if upsetting a timeline I had already seen could destroy the timeline itself? I have no idea the answers to any of these questions. It scares me beyond words.

I am 20 years old now, and it still happens. This post is not a lie, I am not trying to stir the shit. This is the first time I have said anything about it. It has happened many many times (the example above is the one time it has happened that for some reason sticks out in my mind the most.)

With my current girlfriend I actually changed it once, but it scared me so bad that to actually change my line of the "script" if you will, I was crying horribly and stuttering so badly that she barely understood me.

I will recall the above situation as another example: It was 6 months ago and my son had just been born I had a "dream" (the dream was about 4 months prior to his birth, only in this dream I couldn't see something clearly for the first time, that was my sons face. she was holding him and no matter which way I turned I couldn't see his face because it was blocked by a bar from my bed.) that we got into an arguement and she broke up with me and went to leave. There was something in the lane outside our house and she slipped and hit my sons head on the open edge of the car door. he died. I awoke and wrote this dream off as possibly really a dream. Maybe my mind messing with me. Of course I couldn't believe that something of that effect would happen to me. Well I came home from work and we were talking and she said something that seemed familiar (which is how it always starts because I never remember the dream after a few days until the event happens, It always starts as Deja Vu). I say a familiar line, then it clicks. tears fill my eyes as I start to remember whats in the driveway waiting for my son. And I say my next line. I started trembling thinking again for the hundredth time what might happen if I were to break my imaginary rules. And I lose it, I can't let it happen. I change my next line. bawling and blubbering through it. I tell her that I love her and I don't ever want to lose her. I ask her to stop talking to me for the next few minutes. I had to break the cycle somehow.

Well everything was ok. I don't know how it would have really ended. But this whole situation really scares me.

If you have made it this far please do not flame me, or laugh at me. I am looking for closure. I need to understand why this happens to me. Am I the only one? Do any of you have similar experiences? I have to go to work so I am going to finally wrap this up, with what scares me the very, very most.

If I can "dream" the future ... Is my life predetermined? Does it really matter what I am trying to do with my life right now? Does it really matter if I am trying to better myself for me and my family? Is my life already written and the decisions not my own?

thank you
me.

Johnny Rotten

Teknophile, first, thanks for sharing that. You'll find the TFP to be a very open-minded place. Now, there's a whole predetermination thing going on over at the Philosophy forum. But my theory is that, every once in a while, a series of events will click into place, but that doesn't mean everything is predetermined. Only that certain events are going to happen, and in fine-grained detail. As long as you don't use what you see selfishly, I believe there is no harm in trying to change things for the better.

I've had some odd run-ins with predetermination and avoidance of it, but both times my motivation was either deep-seated fear for someone else or deep-seated fear for my own safety. But I won't clutter your thread with my stories. Suffice to say that these things happen, you can divert what seems to be destined to happen, and if you do it for the right reasons, no harm will come to you.

I did some Googling and came up with some info on dream precognition that may be helpful: http://www.mossdreams.com/precogni.htm

So: Don't be afraid.

Mel

I can understand why you get so upset... I think, that if you can see the future it is for a reason, you can change it and are ment to... maybe you were shown the death of your son so you had a chance, maybe if the future had have played out you could have been begging for a chance to change the past. Don't worry about changing the future and something bad happening as a consequence because you wouldn't have been shown otherwise

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mastboy4

i just wanna say thanks for sharing this with us, and wow, ive never heard of something like this, and just enjoy life

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t3m3st

Wow
thanks for sharing the story
you have a very interesting take on this, with the imaginary rules, that you might break the timeline. I have never heard anything like this before. If these dreams all come to pass, then you have already proven that you can change things, no? you may very well have a gift. my advice (keep in mind that i have no shame) is to milk this as often as possible. the truth is you don't know why this happens to you and you don't know how. so you mikght as well use it to your advantage. i wonder if there is anything that triggers these. Maybe.. think about that. be strong man, be strong (sorry about lack of caps, im too tired for shift key)

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Flesh

That's very interesting... and I can really understand why you're scared.... Since you can't really do anything to stop these dreams, I suppose you should do what you see fit with them. Change what you previously saw if it comes out bad, all in all I see this as an advantage for you, even if it is rather scary.

GakFace

Wow. Amazing, Simply Amazing. In fact I'm a little jealous. I dream in full color, and have all of my senses. It is usually always in 1st person, but there are times when my dream pan out to third person. I'll have some odd deja vu experiences, but I don't seem to have enough to analyze whether or not its the future. My sister once had a dream where she saw her b/f (at the time)'s Psycho Ex. Then when she went to his swim meet, sure enough there was a girl that fit what she saw in her dream.... and it was the same person.

For an explanation? Here's my best take on it. Though out our life we make choices, sure there may seem to be an infinate amount of possibilites, but through these choices are different "timelines" if you will. With everything we do, there is a choice that is involved. Well your dream just showed the most probable one, OR the one that you resided on already. (so basicaly again, the most probable one, hehe). Thus your dreaming seems to catch a glimpse of the future and perform the actions you would normally do on a day to day basis. Luckily for you, you now know that THAT path isn't the predertimined path. It can be, but doesn't have to be. As scary is this can be, You have a chance to do something different. Fix what may be.
What I am curious about though is this: I would like to know when you have a dream much like this, but when it "comes" true... there are thoughts in your mind that are different from the dream. Something that you do in the dream.... now just doesn't seem like what you WANT to do. You know what I mean? Because IF and when that happens, then you'd know that you dreamed of path that you aren't taking, BUT you would know that outcome.. and if it was good enough, you could then follow it (even if you don't want to) knowing what good would come of it...but you could just as easily do what you feel is best. I hope I didn't lose you, but I'm stopping there because If I go any further I'm sure I'll lose you.

Again, thats amazing. Read around on these boards, and you'll see that I've said enough to prove I didn't have a "rocker" to begin with Thats what these boards are for, for those of us who want to share our experiences with others, but don't want the ridicule that can easily follow.

--GakFace

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Beltruckus

I've had this happen to me a couple of times, the one that stands out in my memory the most is when i was about 13 at the end of the school year we would have a "water fun day" where we would have a bunch of activities that had to do with water antics. About a month before I dreamed I went down one of the slip an slides that was held in place by some large sandbags. (was on a steep type slope) and as I went down i hit one of the sandbags hard and broke a finger and almost was knocked out. Very vivid dream. When the water day came I pretty much forgot about the dream. As i went down the slip and slide I lost control and smashed into a sandbag broke a finger and hit my head pretty hard making me dizzy and have a HUGE headache. Even now sometimes I get the feeling like i've already done this, but never as vivid as the slip and slide dream.

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zodiac3k

i totally know where you're coming from

it seems like i ALWAYS dream i'm in situations i come upon later in life

what sticks out to me the most are the things people say. many times the topic of conversation or what exactly is said between people is exactly the same

it's creepy. i love it haha

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anti fishstick

hmm i dont so much dream in sequence things that well happen later on... but i often have some symbolic dreams that seem to 'predict' future situations. i remember a vivid dream i had last year of my grandma that passed away. she was telling me and comforting me that it'd all be alright. my mom and dad fighting and such.. and i remember an airplane and the number 53 being very prominent. my mom and i were on the plane but not my dad. it was a very scary dream feeling, yet contented and soothed down at the same time bcos of my grandma... "it's ok. everything will be alright" freaked me out.. it was almost as if maybe.. we were going to be in a plane crash or in a dangerous situation but her presence took me to a place above the moment.

well turns out my dad turned 53 this year and my mom and i really are going to fly on a plane again maybe.. is this a good sign or bad?? i'm kind of afraid to fly at the moment :-x i don't think my dream was necessarily telling me i'd be in a plane crash.. i think it was more symbolic than anything but stilll... makes me wonder.

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fooseballwiz

it's funny that i'm reading this right now because about a month ago i had a very good friend of mine stay at my house for a couple days, (i've known him since elemntry school), we left the house at 12 am and wandered around my neighboorhood until sunrise.

While we were walking he said something very profound about God and i totaly agree with him. He said that god has to be real and when i asked him why he said "Because God told me in a dream that we would be having this conversation". From there on we went on talking about how if the bible is right that sience couldn't be right and so on but that is kind of off topic.

A few days later i experinced something like u said. I was sitting at my house drinking coffee and there was a knock on my door and for some reason i said "Come in Chris" (who is my old best friend whom i havn't seen for years) and sure enough it was him... not only had i not seen him there but he hadn't called or given me any notice. It scared me alot... Thanks for the amazing story teknophile

Mehoni

I don't dream clearly.. but I have, at several occasions, dreamed something and then have it "come true". It's not my imagination either, because I've writtend won some of these dreams.

When it's really happening, I get the feeling of a deja vu. The "official" explanationt o a deja-vu seems to be "a mismatching in the brain that causes the brain to mistake the present for the past" and I d think this is true in a way. The human brain is very complex.

But I can't shake this feeling that I've seen things happening before. I think that by me dreaming about it I may have "filed" it udner experiences and the brain somehow thinks my dream has been an earlier experience.

Ie, even if I see stuff for the first time, my brain thinks I should recognize it.

Sorry, English is not my first language, so I can't express it any better than this.

Mr. Moe

Thanks for sharing, you are obviously scared..but I hope you rest better now knowing that your abilities probably saved your sons life.

I've had some similar events happen to me, although nothing dramatic. I'll jut dream some common event, like walking down a street or something, with one or 2 things different about that occasion..maybe a friend walking by..a crashed car..something like that, and sure enough my normal walk home will turn out exactly like the one in the dream. I know it doesn't compare to you but just hope you know at some degree I am sure it happens to everyone, just you seem to have a much more powerful sense of the future.

Pendejadiota

holy crap, i think this may be the answer to my question.cuz along ass time ago, like probably 7 months ago.i had seen this tournament of Halo.I even remembered the faces quite well.and i could remember the hosts too.I had seen this as if i were a member in the audience.and im only 12 and my dada never lets me go anywhere.and it was held like in another state, but anyways.i kept looking for this tournament on websites and i did find it.but it wasn't as high quality as i remembered.i mean ofcourse my dreams pperspective is more high quality than any video capture.I looked for the video because i thought i might of seen it before.but i didnt.so this drived my crazy for a long time.until i saw this thread.

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blindboy

One thing that seems to soothe me and leave me not so lost is a simple phrase "There is no such thing as coincidence." Teknophile, what happened here is very serious but you did the right thing. With your instinctual understanding of the "rules" it must have been very difficult to break from your usual pattern but you were forced to in that instance. I wouldn't have taken the chance either. One way to see this event is as the "reason" for this phenomenon is that you needed to avert the situtation with your son and that all the instances that happened before or may happen in the future will simply stand as the time that you did not follow the rules and all did not go as expected. Thank you for sharing

etardedraverboy

that happens to me all the time ill b sittin around and something will happin and i will go oh shit i drempt this

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Cardinal Syn

For the original poster i have had many similar things happen as well.

But to tell the truth about Deja Vu.. In scientific terms.. try and logialy see what is happening. it is because you are tired. You are visualizing somthing before your brain process's it.

If that makes sence :<

But rememeber. I have had similar occurances as well. So i am with ya :>