Are vampires scared of Islamic imagery?
 

In the same way as they are of crucifix's or holy water?

In all of the media I have seen it is only Christian icons that repell them, but surely a - for example - star and crescent banner should have the same effect on them?

Strange, I always thought the same thing too. I felt that if you couldn't see their image in the mirror because of their undead nature having no essence to be replicated then you couldn't photograph them then, or make a video either. But they have distorted all vampire lore and brought on so many versions and myths about them the only mythical creature that remains intact is Santa Claus.

I still prefer the vampire from count Dracula.

mmmmm, sparkly.

Strange, that's a very interesting idea. You'd think that one would translate to the other, but what about Bhuddism and animism?

My guess would be that in the land of vampires Christianity is the 'true and correct' religion. Therefore Islamic, Bhuddist, etc. symbols would have the same effect as a paper clip since they are not tied to 'real religions'

Just goes to show that they (Vampires) don't really exist except in the movies made by Christians or Goys.

Pfft, this only proves that there is One True God.

This is probably it. I've heard that genies can be trapped in ther bottles by the seal of Muhammad, or somthing like that. My guess is that they would be unaffected by Christian imagery.

I think it has more to do with the item being blessed than it has to do with the validity of a religion in the vampire world. Water for instance is just water until it's blessed by a priest and becomes holy water.

WHat about Chinese vampire mythology? I don't know much about it, but I did once have a flatmate that loved 70's horror films, and he used to go on about how Chinese vampires needed different techniques to kill them.

I vaguely recall watching Christopher Lee and/or Vincent Price in a Chinese vampire film from the late 70s.

theres no such thing as islamic imagery. pictures of icons, symbolism and statues are not permitted in islam for various reasons

i guess that makes vampires scared of islam?

i personally carry around silver bullets with me anywhere i go. i'd hate to think i'd get killed by a vampire or werewolf without having a backup plan if i chose the wrong religion.

what are goys?

Do you throw them at the vampires? Or does your keychain assemble to form that plastic gun I saw at the movies used to get passed metal detectors?

It's not whether the vampire is "scared" so much as what repels them.

Plant matter such as hawthorne and oak have been used for such purposes. And garlic of course.

Then there is the restriction preventing vampires from entering sacred ground. I'm sure this would include mosques as well as churches.

It all comes down to the "power" that does the repelling. If you consider Islam, it is a religion that taps into the same deity. If you look at the things that repel vampires, they are tools from "God's universe" used to repel or otherwise fight evil.

"Goy" usually means anyone who is not Jewish. Not sure how it applies to hunnychile's statement.

Wait... what do you do for a living, again?

There is a scene in a movie, I can not remember the title of it to save my life, that a character holds up various symbols of faith in front of a vampire/demon til one worked. It all stuck me as funny and wondered if you could just mount every major religious symbol on a staff and wave it at anything that came along. Like a Staff of Holy +3 or something.

Personally, I think it's a faith/holy thing. If the person wielding the symbol believes it is a focal point for all things good, then all things evil must be repelled against it. If a vampire is pure evil of the most unholy kind, then anything that represents a holy object or god must work against it. Evil is evil and holy is holy.

I'm just an editor, which basically means I have all kinds of trivia and encyclopedic knowledge trapped in my head.

I could be wrong on practice.

Shit. Where the fuck is Corey Feldman when you need him?

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I thank god, allah and KC & the Sunshine Band (just to be safe) that I didn't have to grow up in the '80s. :p

I never watched Lost Boys til about a year ago. I wasn't tortured by it till I was old enough to make fun of it.

"Oh Fuck! Jack Bauer is in this movie?!? Where is the time clock? Does he eat or use the bathroom in this movie? How can he save the world if he can't go out during the day?"

yeah, I believe you ;)


jk *me lies in wait for LordEden to post in the 'start a rumor' thread*

Yeah, an editor of vampire lives! You're a slayer, aren't you? I knew it. Hah!

I will now associate you with James Woods' character in that John Carpenter flick.

no i chew the silver bullets. my body temperature is so high that they become molten. i then proceed to spew the silver at the attacking beasts whicheither kills them or drives them away.

it works just like schrapnel.

Uh, Vampires aren't real so they can be afraid of whatever you want them to be.

For example, I know for a fact that Vampires are deathly afraid of Pergo flooring.

Yeah, and the world is round like an apple. :rolleyes:

fres.. i have no idea what kind of world you live in, but duh! you obviously have reality issues

You know you could just contact cromps and have him issue you silver grenades.

trying to stay under the radar with my sleepy cell.

Baraka, you are my one true love.

the vampires on True Blood seemed a bit unnerved by the Maenad.......

Genies are not the same in Islamic culture as they are translated into our ideas.

They derive from Djinn, which are actually evil spirits or mini-devils. They live to trick and tempt people, and generally act like fallen angels.

The part of being trapped in a bottle is moot, it's trapped by the symbols which represent the power of God. Much like the Cross is not what stops Vampires, but the power which is transferred through it.

Well, at least I know where I can rustle up some Level 10 Mega Nerds the next time I wanna rockin' game of D&D.

In Richard Matheson's I Am Legend the vampires were affected by the holy symbols of whatever religion they were before becoming a vampire. IE a Christian vampire fears crosses while a non-christian vampire doesn't care about them at all.

Dude, I will drive to DC if I can play D&D with you. Even if you are being sarcastic.

Doesn't 4.0 have a tool for online play?

I would be down in a heartbeat for an online Tilted D&D session. There are many different programs for we could use to communicate, have sharable maps, roll dice, and use virtual manuals. Almost all of have web cams, as most of the regulars have been on web chat before. I wish we could do this, as I can't find a group around here that I can join that I am not surrounded by bitter virgins. Let's do this.

/endgeekout
/endthreadjack

I go along with the idea that it is the religious belief of the person using the symbolic article that determines its effect. A devout Muslim should be able to drive away a vampire with a copy of the Qu'ran as well as a Christian can with a cross. It is the chanelling of the holy against the corruption of the vampire which has the effect I think.

Islamic art was huge in the 15th-17th century. The artists were revered in much the same way that Christian artists were in the same time period.

http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/t...lamic-art.html

wat, the link didntw ork. but nontheless i think you misunderstood.

i wasnt talking about islamic art itseld, but rather religious art that paints pictures of god, or statues of god or other revered people.

if you read into islamic art, you will find that instead of painting god, they painted complex geometrical shapes and calligraphy because of the prohibition to give a visual reference to god.

I know you cant draw pictures of Muhammad in Islam, but every religion has recognised symbols, surely?

Wouldnt something with a crescent and a star on it obviously represent Islam and drive off a vampire?

And clever atheists just toss a handful of grain or rice on the ground. Everyone knows that a Vampire (especially those Chinese vampires) are compelled to stop and count each grain giving you time to make your escape.

the star and crescent was introduced by the turks im pretty sure. i cant recall correctly now, but they are just symbols that people introduced into a religion.

they have no religious significance. the same with a cross. they are just shapes after all. nothing more nothing less.

Surely the people who hold them determine whether they are significant?

uughh....tell me why the star and crescent would ward off vampires again...?

For the same reasons as the cross. It is a symbol that the person who holds it see's as representing their God?

Jewish Vampires will run if you wave an AK at them

ive never held a star and crescent before and i dont see how anything of that nature will ward against evil vampires. thats just ridiculous if you ask me.

id rather a gun with silver bullets any day of the week

here's the wiki page for your easy reference

Star and crescent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think the scene your talking about was in "The Mummy" with brendan frasier. When imutep first came back to life, Frasiers turncoat side kick benny was there and he held upa christian cross, star of david, and so on.

"Today it is most widely recognized as a symbol of Islam, and is often used alongside the Christian cross and the Star of David to designate Muslim nations, territory or populations"


Which is kind of the reason I used that as an example....

you obviously only read the first paragraph. it has no religious significance in islam in the same way that the star of david or the cross bear a direct representation to their faiths.

if one day i decided that the cardboard toilet paper roll in my bathroom was so important that it would ward me from evil spirits, thats just in my own mind. there is no way it would ward me from evil, but whats to stop me from believing it has supernatural powers to ward against evil? nothing really.

the mind can do amazing things to logic and reality

I'm scared that Dlish might be a vampire.

I keep looking at his teeth for signs.

It's too late....

“Don't ever invite a vampire into your house, you silly boy. It renders you powerless.”

Besides, we know RetroDracula is already within our midst.

Since the thread is derailed already, can you clear up the whole thing about pictures of Mohammed? This page:Mohammed Image Archive
seems to indicate that he was depicted many times and that he's revered as the highest prophet in the same way that Christians venerate saints and Mary while not worshiping them. I've seen differing interpretations of how it's supposed to be interpreted.
You people can do that? I've got to go warn Sean Hannity and Glen Beck about what the president can do to them if they don't back off.