EventHorizon

i want to comment on this thread later but i'm too busy, hence the post to follow it.

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Baraka_Guru

That's not in dispute here.

Are you a spokesperson for "The Militia"? Are you aware that some militia members are likely to be racist and view their cause as resisting oppression? Nothing is a strong word, and in this case, I think it's false.

This is really vague. What does "destructive to our freedom" really mean? Anyway, that's not really being disputed either.
Yes, a democratic presidential system, right? Yeah, I'm a bit familiar with it. What about it?
Are there Christians or KKK members within militias?
What slander? Whose point?
Source? Point?

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In other news, there's this fascinating tidbit from Fox News:

Is Fox Regular Michael Scheuer Arguing That Armed Revolution May Be Necessary In The U.S.? | Media Matters for America

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longliveusa

this is Constitutional Republic
why did CNN try to cover up the fact it was a black Tea party Member Armed with a AR-15 at a obama campaign stop??????

Armed Revolution is a right of the American People!!!!!!

Armed Revolution is how the us gained our freedom from the king of England dictatorship.

Why is Joe Biden the author of clintions failed racist gun ban in charge of obamas gun policy.

why wont obama/democrats be clear what they want???????

why is harry reid called for Americans to silance their dissent of islam/oppression

why is democrats attacking Allen West and Herman Cain?????

Baraka_Guru

Are those rhetorical questions?

And are these issues why American conservatives gearing up for an armed revolution?

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longliveusa

no they are very important questions. why wont you answer them???

Baraka_Guru

I don't know the answers. I'm a Canadian.

You would have a better idea than I would, which is why I asked.

Are these issues why American conservatives gearing up for an armed revolution?

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EventHorizon

for this^

i wish i could buy you the most expensive. hooker. ever... and i dont just say those things lightly.

i'm quite pleased with the crowd that i run with in the sense that they're all rational conservatives. we still get in discussions sometimes about politics but not to the extreme that we're willing to shed blood over it. i wish more rational conservatives would smack the tea partygoers and tell them that real conservatives offer discussion, not tirade. alternate solution, not bigotry. a different form of government, not anarchy.

bipartisanship FTW!

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longliveusa

Actually Conservative leaders would like to avoid such a outcome. but if it becomes necessary to keep our freedoms we would consider that an option.do not pay attention the way the left in this country demonize Conservative Leaders. they have decided to appease our enemies. such as Harry Reid who wants to try to blame the way muslim fascist behave on Americans expressing our free speech. they blame the actions of crinimals on inanimate objects and they try to divide us based on race and gender

mixedmedia

what the hell is going on here...

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Baraka_Guru

Well, I suppose it's only right to fight against oppression, but I don't see that as an issue at this time.

Can you provide me with a link to a news story or article about this? I don't know what you're talking about exactly.

But other than this, is there anything else? Because it's my understanding that criticisms of conservative leaders is more about a reaction to their social policies. So you get people countering conservative comments/bills, etc., regarding abortion, immigration, or gay rights. That's not demonization. If anything, it's conservatives who demonize the liberals by calling their ideas or policies a slide into socialism/communism, which is false.

The difference is that the conservative threat is real, whereas the liberal threat is hyperbole and therefore propaganda.

However, I'm more than welcome to see examples to the contrary.

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I get the feeling that Canada is home to a much higher proportion of rational conservatives than in the U.S. This is why I'm so interested in American politics. Americans tend to swing way more extreme than we do, both politically and emotionally.

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EventHorizon

Hence the overwhelming temptation to to move to the great white north once my service to the United States is up. I love this place with all my heart and I'd gladly be willing to swap the rest of my heartbeats for everyone else to live happily, but it doesn't seem like my method of service is curing anything.

Ironically enough, i thought that the Air Force Academy would be dripping with Tea Partakers but i severely underestimated the power of rational thought in the youth here.

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longliveusa

Are Links to other sites allowed to be posted in this forum?????
the Tea Party is the Conservative Party.
Lindsey Graham/McCain are RINOS
the Policies of Conservatives is to keep America free from such thing as honor killings
the US has had at least 10 honor killings one was a Muslim Husband who beheaded his wife for asking for a divorce and another was when a muslim dad ran down his daughter for her clothes being too western. but the most amusing is when the Liberal commentator Juan williams was fired for speaking out against the way muslims went out of their way to mimic the 9/11 attackers. And the way he was fire well if it wold be anybody out Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been on the news 24/7 demanding blood

EventHorizon

yes, i believe links to other sites are allowed here.

as for the Tea Party being synonymous with the Conservative Party, allow me to point out that the "Conservative Party", if it exists isn't an actual political party, much like the Tea Party. Someone please correct me (besides longliveusa with whom i am debating), but i was under the impression that the only parties nominating candidates for positions in offices of public service are the Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Green; while the Tea Party is a group within the Republican Party that agree with their policies in a borderline zealous fashion.

can someone please edify myself and mr. longliveusa?

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longliveusa

well the Tea Party is not the republican party for one thing the republicans are infected with rinos like McCain and Graham Which brings great shame to SC for Backing Harry Reid idea of ending Civil rights/freedoms to Appease Blood thirsty Muslims who think if they kill non muslims they will get 72 virgin women to be their slaves. their is not such thing as Over Zealous defense of freedom. I wonder what would happen if Rosa Parks would have said no to a muslim male if one commanded her to go to the back of the bus.

Baraka_Guru

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Okay, for starters, honour killings will never be legal in the U.S., so that's not really worthy of discussion.

Second, if people like McCain aren't "real" Republicans, can you tell me what the base requirements are from being one?

Third, how are these people appeasing "bloodthirsty Muslims" exactly?

Are you talking about this?

Reid: 'We'll look into' Quran burning - POLITICO Live - POLITICO.com

And this?

Lindsey Graham On Koran Burning: “Freedom Of Speech Is A Great Idea But We’re In A War.”

Are your comments about how to respond to the Quran burning? Or whether to respond at all?

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EventHorizon

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Originally Posted by canuckguy Pretty simple really, do your own thing as long as it does not fuck with anyone's enjoyment of life.

longliveusa

Sarah Palin is not a republican she is a Conservative Wikipedia is not a reliable source since it can be Modified without even signing up or logging in. Harry Reid and the RINO Traitor Graham are Appeasing Islam by making excuses for blood thirsty Islam. Terry Jones did not cause anybody to be beheaded by exercising his free speech. Honor Killings are happening weather legal or not that's the point the fact they are happening and no out rage by the media is the point. McCain backs gun control/Anti Free speech Laws. Again i ask what do you think would happen to Rosa Parks if she disobeyed a muslim who demanded her to go to the back of the bus in a muslim country?

The_Jazz

Well, since Sarah Palin calls HERSELF a Republican, I think you probably need to rethink some things:

That's an official statement from Mrs. Palin.

Whether or not Terry Jones cause the beheadings in Afganistan is certainly debateable. I've had several conversations with folks who believe that he could be held legally liable for those deaths if the folks injured could find standing to sue in the US (they won't so it becomes an academic debate).

I'm still wondering what slander you see in this thread. Either you don't understand what that word means or you don't believe that it happened, IMO. Either way, it detracts from your argument.

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filtherton

Who cares about what a muslim would do to Rosa Parks? That question presumes a uniformity in Islam that doesn't exist. Have you ever met a muslim? If not, then you should meet a few before you go spouting off about how they'd have treated Rosa Parks.

Baraka_Guru

As far as I know, Sarah Palin is a registered Republican, and has worked within the party for a number of years. Is there any indication that she has declared her breaking from the Republican party? I thought she supported it.

I haven't read anything to suggest that Reid and Graham condone the actions of "bloodthirsty" Muslims. And, no, Terry Jones didn't cause anybody to die or anything, but I would say that the burning of the Quran in the current geopolitical environment is both un-Christian and un-American. As a pastor, Terry Jones is a hypocrite and the "Dove World Outreach Center" is a mis-fucking-nomer. What Terry Jones and his supporters represent is a cesspool of hatred and ignorance as an undercurrent within American culture, and I sincerely hope that people within and without government don't simply sit idly by and suggest that it's merely a matter of free speech, because it's not.

But rather than call this book burning as an act of which it is not, let's call it for what it is: fascism. Americans should be appalled by such and action instead of suggesting it's merely a matter of free speech. It's not. Neither is Holocaust denial and other contenders of classy topics that could fall under free speech (at least in America...I think).

This is a nonsense "what if" question. Kind of like, if America's geographic and demographic situation were like France's during WWII, how long would it have been before America surrendered to the Nazis?

How about just talk about the issue. What does the current topic of gun control and free speech have to do with Rosa Parks. Very little.

What does McCain support/oppose exactly, and what about it do you disagree with?

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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
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EventHorizon

lets assume there is such a thing as the Conservative Party in the United States, and that it is synonymous with the Tea Party.
(for the record, the Conservative Party is a party in the UK which is similar to the Republican Party here in the States)

National (US) Poll * March 24, 2010 * Tea Party Could Hurt GOP In Co - Quinnipiac University – Hamden, Connecticut

hmm so polls conducted by a university seem to think that the tea party is mostly republicans


so she's british?

thats why you need citations to edit entries. click on the little blue numbers after virtually every sentence in an article, it'll bring you to where the research was found.
i really hope you aren't calling all muslims bloodthristy. it gives tolerant and open-minded Americans a bad name when people hear that kind of name calling.
See what the Constitution says about fighting words and hateful speech. i think you'll be interested to find what is Constitutional (and therefore American).
what this^ says to me

is this: http://www.dula.tv/blog/wp-content/u...watermelon.jpg

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Originally Posted by canuckguy Pretty simple really, do your own thing as long as it does not fuck with anyone's enjoyment of life.

Baraka_Guru

There is also the Conservative Party of Canada. Maybe Palin is more Canadian than British, given that Alaska is pretty much a third Canadian territory. Alaska is like Canada's hat...but set at a jaunty angle.

Anyway, there are such thing at capital-C conservative parties. Not sure about the status of one in the U.S. Canada's, on the other hand, is pretty much like the love child of the rightest of Democrats and the leftest of Republicans.

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Walt

You're thinking of Betsy Ross. Rosa Parks was the first woman to fly across the Atlantic.

Sounds like another of your thinly-veiled threats to annex Alaska. You know who else was a fan of "Lebensraum"?

False. Alaska is like the black lion that forms Voltron's head. That's why Alaska remains America's repository of great minds and true patriots.

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Baraka_Guru

Are you fucking kidding me? If Canada ever needed territory to expand the Canuck population, the last place we'd look is fucking Alaska. Even then, we're still sitting comfortably at nearly 68 acres for every Canadian.

Well, if that's the case, it's even more of a boon to Canada, considering our top item in the national defense strategy is, "Stay on good terms with the United State of America." Item number two is, "Become indispensable to the United States of America by being a key supplier of oil, lumber, grain, steel, uranium, and other natural resources."

It's kind of a no-brainer, really.

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Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
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Walt

Invert the "m" in "me" and suddenly it's "we". As in collective. As in socialism. Once this god-fearing American saw that, your seemingly innocuous statement becomes a little more clear..er.

[W]e need to expand th si ear y for every Canadian....We need to expand this year for every Canadian. It's right there in black and white.

No, Alaska is a boon to Canadia because of its location and its people. Patriotic Americans like former-potential-Vice-President-Elect-of-the-Conservative-Party, Mrs. Sarah Palin and the multiethnic, reasonable and tolerant Militias are what's keeping the Soviets from invading via the land bridge while also opposing the elitist use of punctuation and capitalization.

Yeah, you know who else wanted to "supply" the United States with uranium? Saddam Hussein. Who tried to purchase it from Kenya. Where our Muslim Usurper-In-Chief (Barack HUSSEIN ObaMAO) was born and trained in the ways of Shari'a Law. Which he is now forcing down American throats to pave the way for honor killings. It's all there. You just have to be brave enough to connect the dots.

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Baraka_Guru

Oh lookie here! It's an (over)educated American! *claps sarcastically* Well done!

And now Lieutenant Yankee makes a weak attempt to reinforce the position of his nation. How cute. Patriotism at its best: when it tries in vain to uphold the rotting virtues of a failed and unethical economic system (read: kaptialism). Spoiler: PROPERTY IS THEFT!

You may be one of the few who have seen the game we're playing up here in Soviet Canuckistan; however, there is little you can do to stop it. That's the major weakness of free market governance: it's not really governance. It's letting the herd run amok and then following it blindly.

Like lambs to the slaughter.

Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!

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Walt

Listen up: I'm not going to let some bourgeoisie francophile badmouth the United States of America. Wait a minute. "Francophile" sounds an awful lot like "pedophile". Is there some kind of connection? I'm not saying there is. I'm just asking questions.

Running amok and blindly following the herd are the very ideals that our Founding Fathers fought for. It's in the Constitution; somewhere in the back. While this fire may have died down thanks to the combined efforts of LIEbruls and George Soros, the embers still burn hot within the Republoconservative Movement.

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EventHorizon

i feel the urge to get drunk with you guys... maybe not the francophile haha jk. we should organize a TFP drinking league

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Originally Posted by canuckguy Pretty simple really, do your own thing as long as it does not fuck with anyone's enjoyment of life.

The_Jazz

What's your major malfunction? Don't you realize that you're shoulder-deep in the league ALREADY? Jesus H. Christ, I'm breaking my own rules even MENTIONING IT! Chug 2 beers NOW, EH!

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longliveusa

First off Terry Jones did not cause anybody to be killed Period end of story and no he cant be held Liable for Blood thirsty Islam beheading defenseless people. By the way if the democrats think banning burning qurans will stop Americans from exercising our rights then you are living in a dream world.
And one more thing on this topic if it becomes necessary the 2nd Amendment will be employed to defend freedom of speech.

Geert Wilders is back on trial for the mere crime of questioning islam

Why does is the Harvard Gym Allowed to practice gender segregation just to please Muslims i though all segregation was Illegal in the us it guess its all right non muslim students to pay the same price for using the facilities but not having equal access.

Why is Muslim cabbies allowed to ban blind peoples seeing eye guide dogs is this not violet the Americans with Disabilities act.

Lets not forget Former muslims who became Christians and now live under the danger of being killed for doing so leaving Islam is a Capital Crime under islam punishable by death.

Peaceful Islam you say

Islamic cleric says it is permissible to spill blood of Iraqi Christians, and a duty to wage jihad against them

Jihadists "declare war" on France for veil ban

Arkansas jihad murderer confesses to killing Nashville man in a "jihad operation"

Gaza: Jihadi accidentally blows himself up without murdering any Infidels

Democracy on the march: Christians begin to flee Egypt

NY State Senator who held terror hearings gets threatening package: "Instead of bashing the intellectually superior Muslims, shouldn't a handsome, cannibalized crazy, Christian cracker like yourself be in church chomping on Jew-god corpse"

Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Ishaq:250 "The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised."
Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."
Ishaq:254
Qur'an 2:96 "We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. They know the shameful thing that awaits them."
Qur'an 4:55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!"

The_Jazz

What Terry Jones did is called "criminally negligent homicide". That's the term when someone disregards the safety of others for their own purposes. It's a misdemeanor. He was aware that Muslims would have this reaction and he did it anyway. Because it happened to people outside of the US, he gets away with it.

Beyond that, your post reads like someone who's never met a Muslim and only knows the bullet points of the Qu'ran that have been fed to them at the local hate group/militia/DAR meeting.

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Baraka_Guru

Even the Bible in the hands of Terry Jones has such scripture. Maybe that's what informs his hatred.

Evil Bible Quotes


Anyone who uses religion as an excuse to carry out actions based on ignorance and hate is deserving of censure—at the very least—Terry Jones included.

And for the record, my Muslim friends, neighbours, colleagues, and clients aren't bloodthirsty.

There are over 170,000 Muslims in my city (which, by the way, is virtually on the border with the U.S., in case you're interested). That's a population about the size of Jackson, Mississippi.

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I'm only partially Francophone. It's you guys who are Francophiles. I know, I know....it's such a sexy language.

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longliveusa

What terry Jones did was exercise his right to free speech he did not behead anybody he did not kill anybody and he can not be touched by any foreign power. Well unless you want to fight Americans Armed Americans. you know if you or any liberal would to try to attack terry Jones the 2nd Amendment would come into play. the 2nd Amendment is the Teeth of the other Amendments.

I hate nobody i love freedom and will defend my freedom to dissent by any and all means available.

So you Back Thought Crime Laws

you have no clue About militias accept the CNN/Hollywood Liberals tell you

filtherton

I'd phile all up on James Franco. Wait.


Oh yeah, in response to Senior USA, I'd just like to point out that Chewbacca is, in fact, a wookie. Therefore, BOOM!

And the second amendment to the Star Wars constitution clearly states that blasters may only be used to kill nonessential personnel.

The_Jazz

Free speech isn't an absolute right. The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that there are limits to it. How about Brandenberg v. Ohio? Pretty much said that you can't threaten to kill people. Which is kinda what you're doing to me, Mr. America, with that handy little 2nd Amendment referrence. Don't think that I didn't catch it.

I can attack Jones all I want. He's a fucking cult leader that's more interested in generating headlines and profits for his church than free speech, human decency or Christianity. I hope he dies in a fire. It will prepare him for what's coming next for him.

How's that for free speech? Don't like it? Oh well. Free speech.

[/free speech]

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longliveusa

the USSC Just ruled that the so called baptist church had a right to protest at the funerals of dead soldiers.
tell many how many people have died from mocking Christians or burning the bible. How many Embassies/stores burned down/fatwa's placed on cartoonist for cartoons mocking Christians
I am not threatening anybody just saying that the 2nd Amendment is the teeth of the 1st Amendment. And that Americans will use all tools to defend their right to burn the racist sexist fascist quran. Which says if muslims kill the Infiadal they get 72 virgins.

If you want to talk about threats then what about Muslim protest signs which say behead those who insult islam.

Get this through your Head Americans will do what we want and you will not stop us. the king of england tried to stop Americans from becoming free well you know how that turned out.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin

"There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush if that is a true verifiable statement then he is WRONG

The_Jazz

I'm fully aware of the WBC case. It was a predictable outcome, honestly. But SCOTUS has always - ALWAYS - erred on the side of protecting human life when it comes to free speech. That's why Holmes had that silly "shouting fire in a crowded theater" doctrine that lasted for 50 years. Which is exactly what Jones did. Oops.

If the 2nd is the teeth of the 1st, then what's the 4th? The asshole? The feet? Obviously the 19th was a liverectomy and the 21st was a brand-new drinkin' liver.

Exactly which protest signs - in the US - are Muslims holding calling for beheadings? Let's see examples. The 1st Amendment doesn't apply outside of US borders, so anything anywhere that's not the US or a territory (Guam, USVI, etc.) doesn't count.

Let's say you find that needle in a haystack. Guess what? They get to say that. They've got a 1st Amendment right to do so. Until it can be shown that another Muslim acted on that speech to perform a beheading, it's allowable. Jones, on the otherhand, willfully ignored warnings that burning the Qu'ran would result in violence. If Americans had been injured, he might be up on charges. He'd certainly be open to civil action.

How many people have died from mocking Christians? Let's consult the Church of Latter Day Saints, shall we? They consider themselves Christian. How'd their time in Illinois work out for them? Oh, that's right, they were masacred by the gooder, better Christians.

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Baraka_Guru

There are limits to freedom. There are millions of gays and lesbians who can't get married in the U.S. right at this moment.

They'd have to come to Canada, where it's a little bit freer.

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The_Jazz

Agreed. Freedom's not an absolute thing. Like my dad always taught me "the freedom to swing your fist ends at the other guy's nose." Seems kind of appropriate here.

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EventHorizon

and what will muslim Americans do to protect their qurans?

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