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Old 10-06-2008, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is an addition to the main movie. If you have already watched the first, this is not the same movie with a couple of additions. It is a complete expansion on the third chapter: the monetary system. I am not a accountant or ecomonics expert. If there are any here, could you please give your input to whether there is any validity to what is being presented here.

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Old 10-06-2008, 06:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I actually saw a link for this earlier in the morning, but I thought somebody must have already posted this here maybe weeks before.

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Old 10-06-2008, 08:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I know the creator made small additions since the original came out, but this is completely new. If it would have been the same footage with different effects like what he did earlier I would have not bothered watching it or posting it. The points, however are the same. This one focuses more on what the third chapter's subject matter was. I know a large portion of the people that watched the first one think the 911 conspiracy is BS and have a huge problem with his views on Christianity. I'd really like to hear a perspective from any financial experts out there on this subject.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well if you actually read the Modern Money Mechanics, you will see how they use credit and the "confidence" of the money that is printed to have people believe what we believe today.

I watched this video and was going to post it here but wanted to check the facts and talk about this in a live discussion with people that I know, but someone beat me to it.

I love the "hope" that the ending tries to give you. The venus project is a new innovative way of living, but with so many people and their mindsets of not wanting change for the greater good of ALL of us, is what is going to hold us back.

I am already trying to do my part, and make my home self sufficient, and maybe get a kit for my vehicle to not take gas. I also cancelled my cedit card with Bank Of America.

This video to me actually gives me hope. I still do ask myself questions of how would we get there.

It is only up to us.

I got into it with an older fellow yesterday, because I was trying to prove a point, about the income tax, and how it is technically no legal to charge us, and takes alot of effort to not pay it, but he didnt believe me, and talked about Brett Farve.

To prove a point, I asked him who Brett Farve was. He looked at me like I was some kind of Alien. I do in reality know who he is, but I could care less what team he plays for, what number he wears, and what he does.

so I asked him if he knew about the Income tax, and how the dollar works with the federal reserve. He didn't know. I stated to him, " The reason you probably don't know this is because you are too stuck on Brett Farve and all that jargon."

he got mad and wanted to kick my ass.

was there a better way to come across? maybe, but I had to prove his point because he fell into getting angry, and talking crap about me, and assuming a bunch of stuff about me, that I had to pick at him a little bit.

To even think about the way of life that this video brings forth, is hard to fathom for some people.

Me on the other hand. I embrace it. It seems a whole lot better than this life we live now.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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As valid or invalid as this video may be, I cannot watch something made by the same raving lunatic that made the first one. He would have to be practically foaming-at-the-mouth crazy to outright lie with as much regularity as he did in the first. An arguable stretch of the imagination is to believe he doesn't feel that he's lying, but then I'd have to conclude that he's an undereducated simpleton who jumps large logical gaps to arrive at this points. I imagine that this video is the same "the sky is falling" mentality, with a little bit of 'secret society', 'us vs them' and new-world economics thrown in.
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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As valid or invalid as this video may be, I cannot watch something made by the same raving lunatic that made the first one. He would have to be practically foaming-at-the-mouth crazy to outright lie with as much regularity as he did in the first. An arguable stretch of the imagination is to believe he doesn't feel that he's lying, but then I'd have to conclude that he's an undereducated simpleton who jumps large logical gaps to arrive at this points. I imagine that this video is the same "the sky is falling" mentality, with a little bit of 'secret society', 'us vs them' and new-world economics thrown in.
what this video promotes is forward thinking to me, and if you didnt like the first one, you wont like the 2nd one either, with that state of mind. if you ever looked up on your own, what was talked about in the first AND in the second video, you will see that alot of what is said is true.

He may paint it a certain way, but you have to take it all in, and be open about it. your attitude about the video before watching it, and assuming things of it, reminds me of this world and why it will be a harder challenge to get away from all the corruption in this world. people dont like change, and have the "fear of the unknown." I will embrace this change. because this is ACTUAL change.

I do agree with what was in the video and not all of it, but it made alot of sense to me, and you can look up the things he talks about and it is out there.

An open mind is what is needed to watch this.

it is funny how you call this man a "raving lunatic". is it because he goes against your way of thinking?

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Old 10-08-2008, 10:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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As valid or invalid as this video may be, I cannot watch something made by the same raving lunatic that made the first one. He would have to be practically foaming-at-the-mouth crazy to outright lie with as much regularity as he did in the first. An arguable stretch of the imagination is to believe he doesn't feel that he's lying, but then I'd have to conclude that he's an undereducated simpleton who jumps large logical gaps to arrive at this points. I imagine that this video is the same "the sky is falling" mentality, with a little bit of 'secret society', 'us vs them' and new-world economics thrown in.
That aside; you obviously did watch the first one, right? The third chapter of the first one dealt with the monetary system. So the explanation of a fractional banking system, reserve notes not backed by anything, and dollars with automatic debt attached from the moment its printed is BS? If the explanation was true it would mean the American population is in a never ending state of perpetual debt with the current monetary system and by design would never be able to satisfy the debt because the very notes (now in the form of simple electronic credits) used to pay the debt also have debt. The FDIC is not insuring in gold, but reserve notes correct? The way this guy explains it he does sound like a lunatic because it would truely mean there is secret societies and us vs them. As far as new world; his history must also be shakey because he states the Central Bank belonging the the King of England was one of the primary reason the colonists revolted, making it not so new. "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. "--Henry Ford

Im not saying you are wrong but to express him to be a mouth foaming raving lunatic liar with such clarity promotes it to be you are the person with the answers. In regards to his explanation about our banking system- its all bullshit?
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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you do realize where henry ford was at politically, don't you?
do a bit of research if you don't.
it helps position this film.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:31 AM   #10 (permalink)
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As valid or invalid as this video may be, I cannot watch something made by the same raving lunatic that made the first one. He would have to be practically foaming-at-the-mouth crazy to outright lie with as much regularity as he did in the first. An arguable stretch of the imagination is to believe he doesn't feel that he's lying, but then I'd have to conclude that he's an undereducated simpleton who jumps large logical gaps to arrive at this points. I imagine that this video is the same "the sky is falling" mentality, with a little bit of 'secret society', 'us vs them' and new-world economics thrown in.
How do you feel he is lying? The first was pretty factual from all I have learned over the years. We're fortunate to have someone open our thinking a little.
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah I know, but as I watched the end of this movie and all the suggestions to quit this, boycott that left and right, I couldn't stop thinking, ..........

.....................Imagine how much money that would cost.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm only suggesting the historical point is valid, not ao much the future suggestions which may be unrealistic.
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