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warrrreagl 05-07-2007 07:45 AM

What happens in facebook....
 
Helluva video.

http://www.albumoftheday.com/facebook/


I guess the beauty of it is that you're forking over all this info about yourself freely. What if a stranger knocked on your door and asked you these questions about yourself? How would you respond?

tecoyah 05-07-2007 10:11 AM

So happy I never got into that place.....

hagatha 05-07-2007 10:37 AM

If the internet itself is the brainchild of Army Intelligence then it just makes sense ,to any really paranoid individual, that any information gathering sites would be monitored by or even created for intelligence gathering agencies, like the CIA.... but for that matter, what makes TFP any safer?? How do I know I'm not being monitored here? Do you know where your pictures go?

LoganSnake 05-07-2007 12:21 PM

Meh. Anyone who expects privacy in a public domain is an idiot. Anyone who expects privacy on the internet is delusional. Hell, even those who expect 100% privacy on a home computer that's connected to the internet kid themselves.

Any info you put out on the internet can be viewed by millions of others and used for whatever purposes. Even pictures in the Exhibition forum here can be used against the person who posted them - which is why I never post there. Who knows if any of the people I know are part of this community.

Bottom line is that if anyone wants to know more about you, they can find out tons of information quite easily. Case in point: college directories. For example, University of Illinois directory is open for anyone to look through and lists every student's phone number, name and address. Using that data, you can find out even more info about them (Facebook & MySpace anyone?).

Spooky.

hagatha 05-07-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganSnake
For example, University of Illinois directory is open for anyone to look through and lists every student's phone number, name and address. Using that data, you can find out even more info about them (Facebook & MySpace anyone?).

Spooky.

That is creepy.....oooh.

Cynthetiq 05-08-2007 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganSnake
Meh. Anyone who expects privacy in a public domain is an idiot. Anyone who expects privacy on the internet is delusional. Hell, even those who expect 100% privacy on a home computer that's connected to the internet kid themselves.

Any info you put out on the internet can be viewed by millions of others and used for whatever purposes. Even pictures in the Exhibition forum here can be used against the person who posted them - which is why I never post there. Who knows if any of the people I know are part of this community.

Bottom line is that if anyone wants to know more about you, they can find out tons of information quite easily. Case in point: college directories. For example, University of Illinois directory is open for anyone to look through and lists every student's phone number, name and address. Using that data, you can find out even more info about them (Facebook & MySpace anyone?).

Spooky.

yep... EXACTLY.

Quote:

Woman denied degree over photo, sues university
MILLERSVILLE, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A woman denied a teaching degree on the eve of graduation because of a MySpace photo has sued the university.

Millersville University instead granted Stacy Snyder a degree in English last year after learning of her Web-published picture, which bore the caption "Drunken Pirate."

"I dreamed about being a teacher for a long time," said Snyder, 27, who now works as a nanny. (Watch Snyder describe how she cried for a week over decision )

The photo, taken at a 2005 Halloween party, shows Snyder wearing a pirate hat while drinking from a plastic "Mr. Goodbar" cup. It was posted on her own MySpace site.

Although Snyder apologized, she learned the day before graduation that she would not be awarded an education degree or teaching certificate.

Jane S. Bray, dean of the School of Education, accused Snyder of promoting underage drinking, the suit states.

The federal lawsuit seeks at least $75,000 in damages. Millersville spokeswoman Janet Kacskos referred questions to a state System of Higher Education spokesman, who declined comment.
While she may be "right" it still doesn't avoid the hassle and time it takes. I have the freedoms to do lots of things, but that doesn't mean I do them because I'd rather not have the hassle.

pan6467 05-08-2007 09:39 AM

There's a very simple way to avoid all this, don't put anything about yourself on the net, use fake addresses, fake pics of people and say they are you, in a place like this never include anything so personal it might throw a bone in your direction.

On the other side, you can use the net to get even with people, pass off their phone numbers, pics, addresses in gay or pedophile or swapping sites.

My point is, ANYONE can get the information on you regardless of whether you put it on the net or not. Our lives are not so private, we have government files on us, credit files on us, and so on. It's why it is so easy for these "web detective" sites to find people, and we won't even talk about the background check sites.

SecretMethod70 05-08-2007 10:23 AM

Makes me think of the comic I used in my journal entry today: http://xkcd.com/c258.html

I remember when this video first came out and not long afterwards I read some responses which called its accuracy into question (more specifically, whether or not it is accurately interpreting what it references). Furthermore, I find it sort of amusing that they need to play a convoluted "six degrees of separation" game in order to create this conspiracy theory.

I suppose I might have considered this video to be more credible if it didn't sound like it was made by a 14 year old.

(That said, of course one should be thoughtful regarding what kind of personal info they put on the net.)

warrrreagl 05-08-2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
yep... EXACTLY.


While she may be "right" it still doesn't avoid the hassle and time it takes. I have the freedoms to do lots of things, but that doesn't mean I do them because I'd rather not have the hassle.

Slight threadjack of my own thread here. Time and time again, the courts have rightly upheld the jurisdiction of local school boards and communities in determining the boundaries of moral terpitude and ethical behavior of its professionals. Teachers are expected to be legally bound by the ethics and mores of the communities they serve, and if she's a recent teacher ed student then she should have learned this in school.

Her photos wouldn't have caused so much as an eye-blink in many communities across this nation. However, there are other communities where her judgement would be seriously undermined by the contents of those photos. It is not rare at all for teachers to be fired in small towns for having extra-marital affairs, because it ruins their credibility with the community.

Bill O'Rights 05-08-2007 12:14 PM

According to Mrs. O'Rights, who happens to be in Human Resources, more and more companies are taking a close look at things like myspace and facebook, before making the final determinations on hiring.
So, in other words, if you're neck and neck with the "other guy" for the dream job, and your myspace has pictures of you in a drunken stuper...guess what...the "other guy" may have just won out. Unless, of course, his myspace has a picture of him feeling up the CEO's daughter.
But...you get my drift.

pan6467 05-08-2007 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrrreagl
Her photos wouldn't have caused so much as an eye-blink in many communities across this nation. However, there are other communities where her judgement would be seriously undermined by the contents of those photos. It is not rare at all for teachers to be fired in small towns for having extra-marital affairs, because it ruins their credibility with the community.

From what I read it wasn't the community she was going to teach in, it was the university she was going to that refused to give her her credentials. And that is wrong, no school should be able to withhold your graduation and degree because of a picture and caption, unless it has a morals clause and is a private college.

fatbob 05-09-2007 01:02 AM

i can't believe that picture stopped someone getting to graduate!!! where is the proof that she was actually drunk? i have a picture of myself on holiday when i'm 12 drinking irn bru and i look hammered - but i can assure you i wasn't (two years later mibee, but not at 12...)

i wonder what'll happen to future lawyers and doctors if people start seeing pics from their nights out...

troit 05-10-2007 12:00 PM

Incredible... I guess you can never be too careful.

Jimellow 05-12-2007 09:19 AM

I've read a lot about MySpace and Facebook profiles hurting one's chances at getting a job, but I've often wondered if it can help them.

If someone were to create a MySpace profile that had a professional layout that was serious in nature, I suspect it could ultimately serve as a virtual extension of one's resume, with the key difference being that it would present the canidate in a positive light instead of a negative one.

The fact that human resources and recruiters do scour MySpace and other social sites seems like it would be a worthwhile task in increasing one's value to a company.

snowy 05-12-2007 11:25 AM

I keep my profile on Facebook fairly private. You can only view it if you are my friend. You can only view photos of me if I have friended you.

That said, I only friend people from high school, college, or TFP.

Martian 05-16-2007 12:52 AM

I'll admit that this video had me intrigued at first, although it gets a bit weaker as it goes on. However, I think a more complete quote of the privacy policy is in order :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Facebook
Facebook may use information in your profile without identifying you as an individual to third parties. We do this for purposes such as aggregating how many people in a network like a band or movie and personalizing advertisements and promotions so that we can provide you Facebook. We believe this benefits you. You can know more about the world around you and, where there are advertisements, they're more likely to be interesting to you. For example, if you put a favorite movie in your profile, we might serve you an advertisement highlighting a screening of a similar one in your town. But we don't tell the movie company who you are.

Emphasis mine.

So, Facebook collects anonymous usage statistics. Well, christ, they have to pay the overhead somehow. I thought everybody knew by now that you never get something for nothing. A service that has no monetary cost is going to require some form of remuneration. Personally, I see nothing wrong with that.

Also, everything that has been said above. A small bit of knowledge goes a long way in ferreting out information online. The solution, of course, is to not post information online that you don't want to be publicly available.

Kpax 05-26-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrrreagl
Helluva video.

http://www.albumoftheday.com/facebook/


I guess the beauty of it is that you're forking over all this info about yourself freely. What if a stranger knocked on your door and asked you these questions about yourself? How would you respond?

Wow, scary. I had an account there briefly, and the cliques there are more exclusive than MySpace. People in Facebook aren't as eager to add strangers. I deleted my account without ever having added anyone. Glad I did...

I guess it's good to read the fine print every now and then...

Not Right Now 08-07-2007 07:27 PM

I deleted mine a while back, but I am so glad that I never wrote any information on mine.

Strange Famous 08-26-2007 07:40 AM

I am happy to be surveyed. I have nothing to hide.

These are merely tools of the state - at the moment used against the working class, but when control of the state is taken by the working class the means will prove just as efficient.

...

but as for day to day life, I have posted my full address, my real name, my cell phone and home phone online loads of times in public places... and no harm has ever come to me over it. Most people here know my real name and could probably find me prettily easily if they wanted to... I dont see what difference it makes.

I get junk mail all the time and marketing calls all the time anyway and did before I ever went online, I cant see what else Facebook is gonna do to me.

debaser 08-27-2007 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pan6467
From what I read it wasn't the community she was going to teach in, it was the university she was going to that refused to give her her credentials. And that is wrong, no school should be able to withhold your graduation and degree because of a picture and caption, unless it has a morals clause and is a private college.

Are you telling me that you are not actually John Lennon? All this time...


But seriously, just be smart about it. I use both facebook and myspace to keep up with old high-school and college friends. If there is a piece of information you want to keep private, leave it blank. Who cares if the gubment knows what my favorite movie is?

Plan9 08-27-2007 06:18 AM

All your employers are belonging to MyWasteOfSpace and Face'dBook!

Yeah. I have an anonymous MySpace to talk to Army friends. It will be deleted the second I'm done with college.

I don't believe in MySpace / Facebook just because its another way the man is keepin' a brother down... aka 1984'd!

POINT: Do a Google (TM) search of your name, your email address, etc. Scary what comes back sometimes. Anybody can do it and anybody can see it. I've found ancient exgirlfriends that way. Tell me THAT isn't creepy.

Nobody is anonymous on a long enough timeline.

It is just a matter of who and why someone is scoping you out.

Cynthetiq 08-27-2007 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin
All your employers are belonging to MyWasteOfSpace and Face'dBook!

Yeah. I have an anonymous MySpace to talk to Army friends. It will be deleted the second I'm done with college.

I don't believe in MySpace / Facebook just because its another way the man is keepin' a brother down... aka 1984'd!

POINT: Do a Google (TM) search of your name, your email address, etc. Scary what comes back sometimes. Anybody can do it and anybody can see it. I've found ancient exgirlfriends that way. Tell me THAT isn't creepy.

Nobody is anonymous on a long enough timeline.

It is just a matter of who and why someone is scoping you out.

really think that is creepy? try spock.com; it searches ALL the sites like Facebook, Friendster, MySpace, LinkedIn, and the like. What used to take me hours to find someone, now is even easier.

warrrreagl 08-27-2007 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I am happy to be surveyed. I have nothing to hide.

Unless, of course, it's the police knocking and asking the questions.

Leto 08-27-2007 07:21 AM

I have a personal policy that requires me to be sceptical about anything that I get from the internet. This little video is one more in a long list.

thespian86 08-27-2007 08:38 AM

interesting.

Strange Famous 08-29-2007 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrrreagl
Unless, of course, it's the police knocking and asking the questions.

"Twelve black boots on my bedroom floor
What they want from Rascal? I'm not sure..."

But is that happens, my answer is "I dont know nobody!"

ladiesman24 09-20-2007 10:56 AM

pretty much everyone knows everything about everyone..because if you are on myspace or facebook all your information is out an about

Datalife2 10-11-2007 04:08 AM

Facebook is for losers who cant get over highschool.

Lucifer 01-18-2008 06:28 AM

BUMP!

Here's a link to an interesting article on the whole "employers check out your facebook page" thing. Apparently these employees thought their boss wasn't as computer savvy as they were. Big mistake!

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