Let's make a PUNK CD
 

Alright people. I need your help.

I want to make a good punk cd, one that's gonna be fast and hard, the truest, best representation of good punk music.

So far I'm considering a lot of stuff from Rancid to Lagwagon, but I'd also like to have some older shit on there like Dead Kennedy's, Ramones, Sex Pistols, stuff that I don't necessarily know a lot about having been born long after this shit was published.

So far I know I want to put:

Cretin Hop by the Ramones
Born to Lose by the Bouncing Souls

If we get enough suggestions, I might even make a couple volumes, so HIT ME!

Black Flag - Depression

Yeah, you've gotta put some Blag Flag on there.

I would put "Holiday in the Sun" as the Sex Pistols tune.

Sweet, replies already!

Depression makes the list! Some nice hard punk, exactly what I was looking for.

Holiday in the Sun, good choice it's on, the cd obviously needs some Sex Pistols, but I couldn't throw anything trendy on there.

What do you guys think about "Buzzbomb" by the Dead Kennedy's?

thanks for the responses!

anything by the dead kennedys is good

Bad Religion 1000 more fools
Dropkick Murphys- Fortunes of War

All - "World's on Heroin" is always a great opener and "Last Caress" by the Misfits is always a great ender to any punk mix.

I was listening to Rancid at work this evening. That song "bloodclot" is quite badass. What are they up to these days? I haven't read or heard anything about them lately.

armstrong is in a band called the transplants, with the drummer from Blink 182 and another guy,( i forgot his name). I at least know that much...

for songs to put on a cd... have you thought about the clash? and NOFX (isn't as old as the Ramones but, they're still awesome.)!

Rancid is on the Warped Tour this year, as with most years. I might put some stuff on by them, but as I'm a huge rancid fan, I've got several picked songs picked out to use as filler, if I can't get anything else.

Rancid is sort of second wave, admittedly the bouncing souls and nofx and those other bands are too, so I'd like to save their involvement for the second cd, or like I said, if we can't get enough old school punk to fill the first one. Bloodclot is a great song. I mean, let's face it, pretty much everything by Rancid is fucking great. Out Come the Wolves was (and still is) my favorite cd of all time. I guess my real problem with Rancid is which song do you pick? I mean, how about Salvation, but if we're gonna go there, then why not St. Mary, or Avenues and Alleyways, or even Maxwell Murders. And if we're into Rancid, then what about Op Ivy, there's no way I can keep Smiling, Knowledge, Unity or Here We Go Again off the list. So Rancid just sort of opens up the metaphorical can of worms you know?

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Actually I'm listening to Bloodclot right now, it's been awhile, and it's exactly the kind of song we're looking for. Totally high energy!

Good pick, it's definitely on.

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As far as the Transplants go, they're cool, but (and maybe I'm a punk snob) but their sound, although punk, is really different from anything else we've been talking about.

I hope I don't kill this whole idea by being a snob, it would just be great if we could get some old school shit on here, and unfortunately, I'm not old enough to remember enough of this to fill it by myself, it might be a problem that there aren't many around that are.

Oh, and I think All "The World's on Heroin" is a great choice, that's definitely on, I haven't heard the Misfits song you're talking about, D/Ling now, but I definitely think the Misfits belong, I considered "Where Eagles Dare" but will wait to see "Last Caress".

Hey man, you're not being a snob, you're just trying to make a very specific type of mix. A noble endeavor in my opinion. And while there maybe aren't many people who were down with the Clash in 1977 reading this thread, the music is still out there, you know...

Speaking of which, if you've got the Ramones and the Sex Pistols, you gotta have the Clash. I've already put in more than my two cents worth, so I'll let someone else suggest which old Clash song.

Go with "Tommygun."

and I wasn't saying put a transplants song.. I was just saying where Tim armstrong is..
and I think there are some better Misfits songs than Last Caress, IMO

BondageGirl, you're right, I read that wrong.

You should pick a Nofx song!

You definatly can't have a punk CD without the Clash. May I suggest some Anti-Flag, Choking Victim/Leftover Crack.

A NOFX song? Any of these will work

Linoleum
Liza and Lousie
Stickin' in My Eye
The Decline (Although it's 18 minutes and change)

how about some old school....?
stooges?

The Bouncing Souls did an awesome cover of Anti Flag's "That's Youth"... in my opinion they did it better and with WAY more feeling than Justin Sane and AF ever did, though seeing both bands on stage singing that song together as one band was one of the best things I've ever seen. Descendents' one song called Hateful Notebook was pretty decent, one of the gems from Everything Sucks. "Scarred by Love" by the nobodys is good also, and it has the lead singer from the Queers doing vocals on it. Rancid's "Hyena" was always one of my favorites, along with "Urban Struggle" by The Vandals. If i can think of any more i'll post, and i'll pick my g/f's brain about the DK's, since she has nearly all of their albums... also, post a track list when youre finished, id be interested in making a comp like this for myself.

If you're going to do a punk CD, you NEED to have some Minor Threat on there. I'd recommend "Bottled Violence" or the song "Minor Threat". As an aside, an ex-girlfriend had no idea of punk, so I made her a punk sampler CD. The rules for it? No using a band more than once, and no more than 15 tracks. Here's what I put on it.

1. The Ramones - We're a Happy Family
2. Sex Pistols - God Save the Queen
3. The Descendents - Original Me
4. Bad Brains - Banned in D.C.
5. Minor Threat - Minor Threat
6. Bad Religion - Leaders & Followers
7. Operation Ivy - The Crowd
8. Dead Kennedys - California Uber Alles
9. Rancid - Roots Radicals
10. Pennywise - Unknown Road
11. Dropkick Murphys - Caps & Bottles
12. The Offspring - Dirty Magic
13. AFI - No Poetic Device
14. NOFX - Murder the Government
15. Propaghandi - Nailing Descartes to the Wall

And a quick note on modern punk bands: if you ever need to analyze them, almost every punk band, at its core, just wants to imitate their idols. Don't believe me? Lars Frederiksen of Rancid has been quoted on numerous occasions as saying that he always wanted to be Joe Strummer when he grew up. The Offspring idolized Social Distortion. AFI is simply The Cure taken to the next logical level. Propaghandi is Bad Religion for the new millennium, and every pop punk band (who I despise) wants to be NOFX in the worst possible way. Anyway, above are some of my submissions for your punk CD. Notable by their absence are the Bouncing Souls, the Vandals, Agnostic Front, H2O, and the Clash. While all these bands are punk as fuck (The Clash not so much, but that's neither her nor there) I feel these tracks make up a damn good punk comp, and argue the strongest case for punk rock. I'd definitely give these songs a listen for your comp.

Oh, and if you're going to use Rancid, there's about half a dozen better and more punk songs of theirs than Bloodclot. Listen to the following songs with your whole head: "Avenues and Alleyways", "7 Years Down," "Journey to the End of East Bay", "Let's Go", "Junkie Man", and "The War's End".

There are (Bullet, Teenagers from Mars, Hybrid Moments, Where Eagles Dare) I just personally always thought "Last Caress" is a good ender song for a CD.

A few others, which I had on a punk CD I made recently:
Bad Religion - Generator
AFI - Charles Atlas
NoFX - Release the Hostages
The Vandals - My Girlfriend's Dead
Dropkick Murphys - Fighting 69th

I wasn't thinking about Bad Brains as Punk, but wtf, they rock out... another band along that route is 24/7 Spyz...

The World's On Heroin made me think of another great song.... The Dwarves "Everybody's Girl". Good stuff.

I'd say The Gauntlet by Dropkick Murphy's, that song definantly has energy to spare.

You need to throw some Misfits on there. "Green Hell" or "Nike A-Go-Go" are good ones.

I'd use either No Control or I Want to Conquer the World from Bad Religion.
Also What the Fuck by Crass, Lexicon Devil by the Germs, Johnny's Got a Problem (D.I.), Hatebreeder by the Misfits, and Soup is Good Food from DK.

Okay, I'm gonna update and post a new version of the list tonight. I didn't realize this had gotten so many replies. As for now I'm going bowling. Thanks for the input guys, I'll sort this out and see what we have.

let me know, im interested in this list

Hey, why not put Zeke and "Telepath Boy" on there? It´s kick-ass! A bit of garage mixed with old school punk.

Okay, so I'm posting what we have so far, some are locked and some are disputed, so I'll separate them out. This isn't the order the final list will be in. As for the order, I would suggest chronological, I think it will sound more interesting.

01. Cretin Hop - Ramones
02. World's on Heroin - All
03. Born to Lose - Bouncing Souls (possibly disputed)
04. Depression - Black Flag
05. Holiday in the Sun - Sex Pistols
06. Buzzbomb - the Dead Kennedy's (this can change, anything but California, I'm just so tired of that one)
07. Everybody's Girl - Dwarves
08. Unknown Road - Pennywise
09. The Gauntlet - Dropkick Murphy's (Fortunes of War?)
10. 1969 - The Stooges (I'll put it on if we can't find anything better)
11. Urban Struggle - The Vandals
12. Hateful Notebook - The Descendants (can I use them and ALL and not break the rules?)
13. Bottled Violence - Minor Threat

Disputed

Generator, No Control, I Want to Conquer the World by Bad Religion

Bloodclot and just about anything else by Rancid (this is gonna be the hardest one, I like Bloodclot, because it's got the beat and tempo, but it sounds kind of 'produced' compared to the other stuff on the album')

Green Hell, Last Caress, Where Eagles Dare, and others by the Misfits

Murder the Government, Linoleum, Liza and Lousie, Stickin' in My Eye by Nofx

I can't find Telepath boy, also looking for an Anti-Flag suggestion, as well as Choking Victim and Leftover Crack. I wouldn't mind someone picking a better Stooges song too. Also need Agnostic Front and h2O as Heel Turn suggested. Anyway, we're almost there, just a few more to go.

Fuck, I forgot about Op Ivy. The Crowd was suggested, anything else?

So how many songs you puttin' on? Bad Brains I, or Banned in DC, or With the Quickness....

Once you put this together, how many copies you making? I'll paypal you for one...

I'm too lazy to make my own..

two of my faves to add:

nailbomb - "wasting away"
suicidal tendencies - "institutionalized"

my suggestions
-social distortion-i was wrong
-social distortion-don't drag me down
-social distortion-story of my life
-nOfX-please play this song on the radio
-NoFx-the idiots are taking over
-nofx-we threw gasoline on the fire and now we have stumps for arms and no eyebrows
-noFX-Decline (this is if you have 18:30minutes on your cd left..yes it is an 18 minute punk song)
-nofx-I am the one (rancid cover)
-Rancid-Vanilla Sex (nofx cover)
-unwritten law-up all night (studio version good, unplugged version from the From high places album better IMO)
-lagwagon-May 16th
-AFI-last carress (misfits cover)
-Mad Caddies-We'll start to worry when the cynics start believing
-Millencolin-No Cigar
-Millencolin-Losin must
-Osker-strangled

that should hold ya for now

put something from Devin Townsends Punky Bruister release.. hehe..

like Wallet Chain.. or Fake punk

put something from Devin Townsends Punky Bruister release.. hehe..

like Wallet Chain.. or Fake punk

yes!

the stooges - search and destroy

Fear!@$ what about fear
Fear- I don't care about you

Maybe a bit of The Exploited should be on here too? My personal favourite is "Beat The Bastards"

If youre looking for an Anti Flag suggestion, go with "Thats Youth" or maybe "Captain Anarchy." Of your choices for a NOFX song, id have to say "Stickin' in My Eye" or go with "El Lay."

old
no one mentioned the buzzcocks - what do i get?

new
blood brothers - burn piano island
fugazi - life and limb
planes mistaken for stars - the past two
ikara colt - one note
sleater-kinney - oh
thursday - paris in flames
at the drive-in - invalid litter dept.
and you will know us by the trail of dead - homage
sightings - michigan haters

what do you mean by "truest"? do you want to show a progression of the scene in time? or just the old school, which is arbitrarily "truer" than the new?

Those are some good suggestions, unfortunately I have to go to work.

What I mean by truest is, I want older stuff, first and second wave, and none of this pop shit. Like no offense to the Nofx people, but to me that borders on the edge of being too pop for punk, voices always seem to high to me, and don't get me started on Jello (he's just lucky the rest of the band kicks so much ass). I personally would prefer something with a harder edge, which is why we might want to do two cds, an old school punk cd, and a new school where there's more room to play.

!!!!!

I don't see how anyone could think of NOFX as pop, seeing as how they go out of their way to avoid the MTV crowd. They don't make music videos for new releases and they don't allow MTV to play their older videos. Just my two cents.

Add some CEPHAS, my mates band... jsut played at the garage in London supporting ruben *www.cephas.info*
/plug

You're right Bob, Nofx isn't pop, I don't know why I'm so biased against them.

Anyway they definitely deserve the label "punk"

damn, this is turning into a good cd

Alrighty, I can't believe I'm only the third person to mention Operation Ivy! Besides the crowd, try 'Yellin in my ear' and 'Black Flag'

This all depends on whether you are trying to make a CD that is punk by sound or punk by ideaology.

Punk by sound included bands such as the Vandals, Bad Religion, NOFX, Lagwagon, AFI, etc.

Punk by ideaology, (Which is punk that is punk because of it's lyrical content and message), would still include Bad Religion and old (YES OLD) NoFX, but would also include the RX Bandits, Propagandhi, Sage Francis (yes, he's a rapper, but his lyrics match up to those of BR), BigWig (I'm surprised nobody has mentioned them before) and Bob Dylan. These were bands/people that are punk in their want for the reform of society to make a better whole for us all.

Punk isn't about power chords and a fast beat, it's about a message that was originally delivered by people who had no other way to convey it but through music.

So, my friend, I ask you, which punk are you trying to make a mix of?

RatherThanWords,

first and foremost punk by sound. I'm all about the a-chord, fast beats, and energy. You have an excellent point, unfortunately Phil Ochs doesn't get a spot on this cd. ;-)

The rest of you.

01. Cretin Hop - Ramones
02. World's on Heroin - All
03. Born to Lose - Bouncing Souls (possibly disputed)
04. Depression - Black Flag
05. Holiday in the Sun - Sex Pistols
06. Buzzbomb - the Dead Kennedy's (this can change, anything but California, I'm just so tired of that one)
07. Everybody's Girl - Dwarves
08. Unknown Road - Pennywise
09. The Gauntlet - Dropkick Murphy's (Skinhead on the MBTA as a closer?)
10. Search and Destroy- The Stooges
11. Urban Struggle - The Vandals
12. Hateful Notebook - The Descendants (can I use them and ALL and not break the rules?)
13. Bottled Violence - Minor Threat
14. Institutionalized - Suicidal Tendencies
15. I was wrong - Social Distortion
16. Beat the Bastards - The Exploited
17. I don't care about you - Fear
18. Life and Limb - Fugazi
19. Yellin in my Ear - Operation Ivy (love that song)
20. No Control - Bad Religion
21. Linoleum - Nofx
22. What Do I Get? - Buzzcocks (can I use this song if they sold it to a volkswagen commercial?)

You want fries with that?
Seriously, am I missing anything?
I'm trying to find a way to host this somewhere, but until then, Kazaa seems to work nicely.

I've been working my ass off, so I'm gonna sit down and watch Adaptation. Have fun kids.

Fear - I Love Living In The City
Op Ivy - Yelling in my ear, Sound System or Room without a window.
Low Class Brats - Sex And Violence(not a cover of the exploited one.)
Nekromantix - Who Killed The Cheerleader
Agent orange - Blood Stains
Rancid - Hyena
Buzzcocks - Orgasm Adict
Circle Jerks - Wild In The Streets or Live Fast Die Young
GBH - I Am The Hunted
The Adolescents - Amoeba
Peter And The Test Tube Babies - Banned From The Pubs (or the cover by Filth)
Anti-Flag - Indie Sucks, Hard Line sucks, Emo Sucks, You Suck
Lars Fredrikson And The Bastards - Army of Zombies or Dead American
Billy Idol/ Generation X - Dancing With Myself
The Distillers - That Young Crazed Peeling(not feeling)
The Dickies - Gigantor
Sex Pistols - Friggin' In the Riggin'
Blatz - Fuck Shit Up
Screeching Weasel - Cool Kids
The Queers - Punk Rock Girls
The Weirdos - Solitary Confinement(Circle Jerks and Dickies both do covers but I think the original is best)

Man, i suggested too many songs. Meh.

Alright...Punk By sound... here's my list then :)

1) Bigwig - Falling Down
2) Against All Authority - All Fall Down
3) Propagandhi - Stick the Fucking Flag up Your Ass...
4) Agent Orange - Everything Turns Grey
5) Bad Religion - Generator
6) INDK - Rent For Sale
7) Rancid - Axiom
8) NoFX - Linoleum
9) No Use For A Name - 51 Days
10) Vandals - Euro-Barge
11) Union 13 - Youth, Betrayel, and The Awakening
12) Suicide Machines - DDT
13) Strung Out - Damned
14) SNFU - Rusty Rake
15) Goldfinger - Open Your Eyes
16) Good Riddance - Fire Engine Red

:) Many of those songs are Punk by sound and ideaology :)

I thought of two more...

Rise Against - Generation Lost
Authority Zero - Lying Awake

and if you must include Pennywise, put on either Society or Perfect People

Punk_Vandal... i forgot clean about that fear song... i love that one

I'm curious to hear skettio's views on my list :(

Bikini Kill must be included

The Business - Hardcore Hooligan
The 4-Skins - Evil
Becks Pistols - Pöbel und gesocks

Those are great hard'n'fast songs

RatherThanWords,

That's a good list, a few of those I don't have on cd, and am downloading. Thanks for your input. I kind of gave up on the whole punk cd after I made my original one. I gave one away, and this girl claimed to like it, but I had the feeling she didn't listen to any of it. Anyways it gave me the feeling that maybe the most useful part of this thread, is for people who like punk, to explore some new stuff, and that's what I've been doing with all your posts.

So those of you who have something to add, I'll be sure to check in and download some stuff, it's not like anyone advertises good punk, the only way to spread the news is by word of mouth. And for those of you reading this thread who haven't ever heard any punk, download some of this stuff at random, if you don't like it, so sorry, but if you do, get on this board and we can all explore some shit together. Thanks to everyone who has posted.

peace,

Skettios.

the velvet underground - heroin

Old School Punk
 

Suprized Subhumans (British not Canadian) hasn't been mentioned - "Religious Wars" was a favorite. Maybe too political?

Remember Anarchy 6? - "Slam Spit Cut Your Hair Kill Your Mom" - almost a joke album in the same vein for punk like Crucial Youth was for Straightedge.

Last note.... The was a band Day Glow Abortions - "Addicted to Suicide" now that was straight out '86 punk

Anyways...all true punk classics, the songs still remain beyond the band

Dropkick Murphys - walk away
Less Than Jake - ASAOK
Slick Shoes - Darko
Mad Catties - Drinking For 11
Glassjaw - Mu Empire
Poison The Well - Pieces of You in me
.... that's all I can add..... I got a couple cd's full of punk/rock music and it all kinda blends together.. just gotta get a good mix

the clash - white riot
rancid - nihilism
h2o - found the truth within
minor threat - i dont wanna hear it
black flag - rise above
bad brains - pay to cum
nofx - we threw gasoline on the fire...
oxymoron - dead end generation
descendents - i wanna be a bear
screeching weasel - i wanna be a homosexual
sex pistols - anarchy in the uk
buzzcocks - what do i get
iggy pop - search and destroy
... theres alot moe i cant think of off the top off my head now

Go old school.

The Gun Club - Sex Beat. These guys get no recognition yet they were there alongside the Clash, the Ramones, and the other '70s punks and doing it very well.

Angry Samoans - You Stupid Jerk.

Well, that was a whole lot of good stuff. Based on how many of those songs I know and love, I think I will have to check out the rest of them. Thanks everyone.

i just have to say put holiday in cambodia on if you want some dead kennedys. i fucking love that song.

Circle Jerks : Wild in the Streets
Youth Brigade: Did you Wanna Die.
Sub-Hum-ans: Mickey Mouse is dead
Dead Boys: I need lunch
NOTA: Moscow
Replacements: Fuck School
Agent Orange: Mr Moto
Reagan Youth: Degenerated


Damn I'm gonna cry. I remember when I had all of the above on vinyl... now it's all re-issued remastered CDs.... except for the replacements and agent orange... wait i still have youth brigade too, oh and subhumans... lost the dead boys vinyl to a woman... NOTA moscow 7" is selling for over 50 bones now.


But what is considered old school to you?

This reminds me that I was cleaning out my basement I ran across a box with about hundred Maximum Rock and Roll zines... a couple were 15 years old.... now thats punk fuckin rock....

That's just this years Warped Tour Comp.


Anyway, (pulls out cd collection)

Rancid-Axiom. Great Song.
Nofx-Seperation of Church and Skate, or The irrationality of rationality.
Suicide Machines-Almost half of "a match and some gasoline" can go on there.
Leftover Crack-Homeo Apathy
Dropkick Murphay's-Alcohol(live version is better I think)
Pistol Grip-P.O.W.
The Unseen-Don't look back
Blood Brothers-I know where the Canaries go
Tiger Army-Towards Destiny
Against Me!-Pretty much anything would be a good choice.
Distillers-Bullet and the Bullseye?(something like that)
Thrice-Under the Killing Moon
Circle Jerks-Live fast, die young
Kosher-Robot
Anything from Youth Brigade and the Forgotten.

Maybe even a Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies song. If you like covers.

Agent Orange - Bloodstains
Agent Orange - Everything Turns Grey
Cursive - The Great Decay
The Living End - Prisoner of Society
Thousand Mile Summer - Three Days Now
Goldfinger - 99 Red Balloons
Goldfinger - The End of the Day
Goldfinger - Counting the Days
Bad Religion - Generator
Bad Religion - Anesthesia

Fear: More Beer
Social Distortion: Mommy's Little Monster
Mike Ness: Ballad of a Lonely Man
And anything by Reverend Horton Heat.