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moonpie 09-10-2004 10:13 PM

Anyone else out there a fan of Rammstein?
 
I've seen their name brought up, but never really seen a thread on Rammstein. If you do like them, what do you think of "Mein Teil" and "Amerika", the new singles off of the upcoming album Reise, Reise? Feel free to post your opinions on all of Rammsteins albums and/or singles and the work of other German bands if you feel like it (ex. - Oomph, Stahlhammer, Megaherz).

aKula 09-11-2004 05:54 AM

I haven't heard their two new songs, though i really like 'sonne' and 'sehnsucht'.

WarriorBuddha 09-11-2004 08:55 AM

I'm a big fan of Rammstein. The Germans are about the best in the world at industrial metal, and Rammstein is probably the best in Germany. I'm a bit out of the musical loop over here so I haven't heard about their upcoming album, but then again I didn't know Dope had a new album out for almost a year after it was published. Thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup:

blahblah454 09-11-2004 02:33 PM

oooh i really like those guys! i havent heard anything about there new cd! when does it come out? and i totaly forgot about these guys, I havent popped inthere cd for months

Zephyr66 09-12-2004 05:04 PM

have all 3 albums, so i guess im a fan
I like mein teil and amerika, mein teil's kooky, and amerika's catchy, thumb up for both
don't like any of the other german bands other than der bote, eisbrecher is ok as well

Kirgar 09-13-2004 10:16 AM

I've got two or three albums of them, they are really good but i haven't listen to them for a while, but i think Sonne and Du Hast are really good songs.

supafly 09-15-2004 08:53 AM

Rammstein is one of my favorite bands. I can recommend "Feuer Frei" and "Du riechts so gut".

auswegian 09-15-2004 08:11 PM

Rammstein is cheesey, but so gut. Probably my favourite songs are 'Engel' and 'Asche zu Asche'. Oomph! are also brilliant, but I haven't heard them anywhere near as much.

Other good German bands: Das Ich, Lacrimosa

tspikes51 09-15-2004 08:41 PM

I love Rammstein!!! My favorite is Hierate Mich (which translates to "Marry Me"). My German friend told me that not as many people listen to Rammstein in Germany as do in America, just an interesting tidbit. I love their super-compressed, tight, deep guitar tone.

Shizukana 09-15-2004 08:55 PM

I never have been a big fan, but I'll tell you one thing.

They put on one HELL of a show.

I saw them at a radio station's summer concert out here in the Dallas area... wow. It was pretty damn impressive.

witmol 09-17-2004 09:33 PM

Yes, I am a big fan of Rammstein. Heard "Mein Teil" and "Amerika." Mein Teil was brilliant, the chorus at the begining and everything. Amerika has a good rhythm, and a catchy phrase. I guess this new album it seems, will have "A more organic feel" as Richard put it. Really looking forward to Reise Reise which btw will be coming out in September 27, in Germany, not sure about the American release date though.

whocarz 09-17-2004 11:58 PM

I love Rammstein. In fact, I'm listening to them right now. "Mein Teil" and "Amerika" are very good. I can't wait for the new album.

evilbeefchan 10-11-2004 01:02 AM

I agree, Mein Teil and Amerika are awesome!! And I can't believe there wasn't a Rammstein thread before!! These guys are so awesome!! Their shows are all about fire, metal and mayhem. Man, there's too many songs to reccomend, but you can't go wrong with the Live aus berlin and Sehnsucht cd. Their cover of "stripped" is damn smooth too.

Pacifier 10-11-2004 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tspikes51
My German friend told me that not as many people listen to Rammstein in Germany as do in America, just an interesting tidbit.

Yes, most people I know see them as too cheesy and musically unimaginative.

I always wondered, do you know what they sing? sp many americans seem to love them but curious if they all know what Rammstein are singing about.

gyroscope 10-11-2004 07:34 AM

i am from germany,and i don't like rammsteil very much.most of the lyrics don't make sense.
i used to like them some time ago,when they released sehnsucht,but now i don't like them very much.
i think it is interesting to see how popular they are in foreigen countrys...i thik it's because noone understads the lyrics :rolleyes: :lol:

evilbeefchan 10-12-2004 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyroscope
...i thik it's because noone understads the lyrics :rolleyes: :lol:

I agree with you 100%!!! :D I personally don't pay attention to the lyrics of a lot of songs now. I just want to listen to something that makes me move. I think the appeal is the emotion coming from the music, which makes people want to react to it. It's just something different from alot of the rock music here, and the language difference is definetly a big reason for that. And the fire. Can't forget about the fire.

Irishsean 10-13-2004 12:14 AM

Old stuff and stageshows were excellent, new stuff is very eh. Somehow a stageshow that involves nothing but tons of fire is cool, but one that shows graphic homoerotic and pissing scenes isn't. Those are the last 2 shows I saw.

lukethebandgeek 10-15-2004 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shizukana
I never have been a big fan, but I'll tell you one thing.

They put on one HELL of a show.

I saw them at a radio station's summer concert out here in the Dallas area... wow. It was pretty damn impressive.

They do put on a damn show. I saw them in Cincinnati. I'd go see them again.

ravenradiodj 10-16-2004 08:32 PM

Haven't heard the new stuff yet, but I play tracks from "Sehnsucht" on my show fairly regularly. I also recommend And One, great German techno band; "Wumpscut", a German industrial band; Das Ich; and Ammer Einheit.

Zephyr66 10-17-2004 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tspikes51
My German friend told me that not as many people listen to Rammstein in Germany as do in America


the thing i dont get about that is that Rammstein's a lot bigger on the german charts than they are on any of the other ones, plus, theyre played on Viva and MTV germany too

and as of yesterday, im now a proud owner of reise reise :thumbsup:
ive got to say that Dalai lama is the best song on the cd

dogzilla 10-18-2004 05:41 AM

I first heard a couple of Rammstein tracks on the Lost Highway soundtrack and was intrigued. I bought their first two CDs. From the little bit of German I can understand, the lyrics seem rather lightweight, but I do like the effect of the voices and the music. One of the images a couple of their songs evoked was Klingon drinking songs.

WarriorBuddha 10-18-2004 06:38 AM

I know a little german, and from what I can get out of it, plus what some others that I know that speak the language have told me, their lyrics are pretty wild. I haven't seen them live, but I have the "Live Aus Berlin" DVD and I love it. Would jump at the opportunity to see a live show.

hawkeye 10-20-2004 05:08 AM

from the little of their lyrics that I've heard translated, I'm not too impressed.
that being said, I love their music. Industrial metal is something I really enjoy, and I think that they do a great job of it. They also have some of the coolest music videos I've ever seen. I've enjoyed all of their albums enough that it's hard to pick a favourite, but I'd probably have to go with Mutter.
as far as the New album goes, I've been listening to it for the last 8+ hours solid, and it's awesome. Amerika and Mein Tell are good, and I'm really enjoying Moskau and Reise Reise.

MasterOfDisaste 10-20-2004 05:16 AM

it is true no selfrespecting german listens to rammstein^^ (I'm german myself)
never understood what americans like so much about them
their lyrics are silly and their music is boring as hell if you ask me

gyroscope 10-20-2004 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfDisaste
it is true no selfrespecting german listens to rammstein^^ (I'm german myself)
never understood what americans like so much about them
their lyrics are silly and their music is boring as hell if you ask me

you are right.but as i said,in america,noone understands the lyrics.their music sucks,but they do a good show,and it has this kind of "exotic touch",it's like i'm listening to finish music that finish poeple don't like,but i like it because of the strange words.
if you like industrial music,i think you could like rammstein,but i can't understandy why they are that popular,even in germany.if every american rammstein fan would understand the lyrics of "amerika",i think they'll loose many american fans.

hawkeye 10-20-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyroscope
if every american rammstein fan would understand the lyrics of "amerika",i think they'll loose many american fans.

I think that the video makes it pretty damn clear, even if you're just an ig'nant 'merican like me.
and as I said, I don't care, most of my favourite bands have a different political philosophy than I do, I don't listen to music for the politics, I listen for the Music.

optik_nerve 10-22-2004 07:22 PM

Old Rammstein was good, but I do like "Amerika."

MSD 10-22-2004 10:52 PM

I used to listen to tehm a lot more than I do now. As I was exposed to German more frequently, I started to understand bits of what the lyrics meant, and I'd say that I like it better as pure music without meaning.

docbungle 10-23-2004 12:21 AM

Well, they certainly kick some serious ass live. Adrenaline-pumping from start to finish.

myplague666 10-23-2004 07:21 AM

i used to like them until reise reise came out now i think
they have gone down hill except i love the songs amerika and Dalai Lama
on this album

NavySEAL 10-23-2004 09:11 AM

Rammstein is one my favorite bands too, one of my favorite songs from them is "Feuer Frei".

SiN 10-23-2004 03:52 PM

not a fan, never have been.

can't dance to it, and it's a bit too headbangerish and not intelligent enough.

raaar raaar raaar is all I hear in it .... bleh.
(and the problem is not with the German).

only time I tolerate them is on the Lost Highway OST, just because I <3 that whole album.

optik_nerve 10-23-2004 06:25 PM

I honestly have never met a girl who likes Rammstein. They always say something around the lines of "You can't understand it, why do you listen to this?"

NavySEAL 10-23-2004 07:07 PM

I bet the majority of people don't even understand them or don't know German but listen to it anyway.

witmol 10-31-2004 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=SiN]not a fan, never have been.

...not intelligent enough.
QUOTE]

hmm... In my opinion their music is the most intelligently created music, some of the their "intelligent" would be Spieluhr, Rein Raus, and Mein Herz Brennt. There are many more, but I can't list them all. BTW I don't understand German and the vocals are just part of a musical element for me. Although I have heard that they are very cryptic in their lyrics and therefore come out sound stupid.

whocarz 11-02-2004 01:24 PM

Hrm. Rein Raus is intelligent? It's a song about fucking. In Out.

By the way, if you're interested, here are the lyrics in English.

http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics

witmol 11-02-2004 04:03 PM

As I said, lyrics really doesn't matter to me(vocals are just another musical element), its all about music.

whocarz 11-04-2004 02:24 AM

I agree that the lyrics don't matter much. I just really like their sound, and the vocals are integral to it. Without them, they wouldn't be Rammstein.

gyroscope 11-05-2004 08:58 AM

i've heard great things about their new show...a friend of mine went to a concert and told me great things about thier show efects.

SteelGlider 11-17-2004 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkeye
I think that the video makes it pretty damn clear, even if you're just an ig'nant 'merican like me.
and as I said, I don't care, most of my favourite bands have a different political philosophy than I do, I don't listen to music for the politics, I listen for the Music.

Exactly. Music, to me, is part of an escape from the nonsense of the world.

I disagree with people who call the music simple. The layered uses of the sound effects and varied instruments (like the harmonica on the new disc) that are blended perfectly with the melody. That's what I love, that fact that the vocals are so abrasive, the guitar sound so thick, yet most of the tunes are friggen melodic beyond belief.

And the reason their lyrics often don't make sense is because some of them can't be translated directly into English because of things like German slang and puns. The band has pretty much said this themselves. That's why their English versions of Du Hast and Angel aren't sung as word for word translations. They changed some of the words when they wrote it in English.

This website is pretty informative, and also has loose translations of the lyrics: http://herzeleid.com/

I like the new album. It kinda tails off at the end with the last 3 songs or so though as they are mid-tempo or slower. My favorite track is definitely "Los", kick ass song from top to bottom. "Keine Lust," "Dalai Lama" and "Moskau" would be my next favorites.


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