irseg

I heard that godawful piece of crap called "The Reason" by Hoobastank today.

WHY DO PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY LISTEN TO THAT???? WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO SOMEONE PISS AND MOAN AND WHINE FOR 5 MINUTES STRAIGHT WHILE PLAYING TWO OR MAYBE THREE OF THE SAME DAMN GUITAR CHORDS??

It seems like music got that way a couple years ago when "nu-metal" or whatever became popular.

At this rate of increasing whininess, I predict that in a couple years from now, rock stations will begin playing nothing but sound clips of three year olds being told that they have to go to bed early.

Redjake

I like The Reason. It's a lot better than the Crawling in the Dark shit they put out a couple of years back. I enjoy The Reason because it takes the generic whine ballad and puts a twist on it. Right when you think the vocals will hit a certain note, they don't, and it makes it all the better. All musicians whine, you need to get used to that. Death metal musicians whine. They all whine. Else there wouldn't be music.

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CheeseButtons

Quit yur whining

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Boo

I blame it on the current society. We are lazy, bored individuals. I remember being a farm kid. There was no time to whine (or anything else). Now I see kids in the streets late at night and for hours at a time. I personally find time to whine a bit too.... gotta work on that. If you have time to whine, then you have time to do something about what is making you whine.

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WarWagon

Heh heh

StormBerlin

Yeah, I think The Reason is a good song. Then again, I am a fairly big Hoobastank fan. There's worse out there in terms of "whiny bitch music", my example of that is anything by Dashboard Confessional....

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mastboyx

well said!

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Cynthetiq

only now???? sheesh....

i guess you missed the whole grungy angst whiny crap.

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Bobaphat

I have no idea what this "The Reason" is, but why in God's name do you think that whining is unique to this generation of music. There have always been whiny rockers. For Christ's sake, the Cure became rock legends because of their whine, and what about Morrisey, Erasure, Nirvana, Smashing pumpkins, the list goes on and on. Whiny rock has always been and it will always continue until there's nothing left to whine about.

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World's King

It's whiny becasue these ugly fuckers could never get laid.


I know... I've been there.

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Averett

I figured they would have been mentioned earlier... Sigh, well if not many people like them, then the venues stay smaller

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filtherton

Because teenagers, a huge demographic in terms of disposable income, feel all fuckered up and confused about who they are and will thusly buy music that reflects their confusion and lack of satisfaction with life in general. It is all business.

maximusveritas

There's nothing wrong with whiny music, per se. It depends on how its done. Is it just some teenager whining about how his girlfriend sucks or is it something deeper?
Many of the best songs ever written could definitely be considered whiny.

FoolThemAll

I'm not a big Hoobastank fan to begin with, but I couldn't disagree more. Their first album was much better. It wasn't original whatsoever, but it was good for what it was. Hooks were well-done and interesting. "The Reason" lyrics are cliched and insipid. So are the lyrics for all their other songs, but it's somehow much more offensive with this song. In addition, the only hooks that measure up to the past album are in "Out of Control" and "Lucky".

But it's all pretty mediocre music, regardless.

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Redjake

agree 100%.

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shred_head

I like the way Bret Michaels from Poison, or some other singer from hair metal bands, put it on a VH1 hair metal special. He said he didn't understand why people wanted to listen to grunge music where they're surrounded by angst and unhappiness because with hair metal and most of the 80s rock music was about putting on a good show and having a good time. And that kind of depression music is just still around today, and I can't wait for it to fade away......even though it will inevitably come back.

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MSD

Music has tended to be whiny for years now. Unfortunately, with the proliferation of this emo crap that can't be avoided on MTV, the blaring guitars and other accompaniment have faded away to leave a depressed-looking male in his early twenties, staring at his feet, and whining more loudly than the instrumental tracks.

Music goes through three phases, angry, happy, and whiny. We're in a whiny phase now. I look forward to the return of the angry phase, if for no other reason than the mosh pits.

cockmonger

because television tells us teenagers that nothing we do will ever be good enough...thus we lament everything, love, people, you name it. fuck it.

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noahfor

I hate the whiny shit that is supposed to be hard. Pop punk. Lost prophets or whoever. They are supposed to be hard I guess, but if you listen to the dude's voice it's so weinery.

cameroncrazy822

I actually like the Counting Crows' music but the singer ALWAYS sounds like he's whining no matter what the song.

GlassHouse420

yea hoobastank is one of the saddest excuses for a band ive seen in awhile, they need to /uninstall.

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shred_head

Well that's what teenagers get for believing everything they see and hear on television, it's they're on damn fault.

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Jadey

Exactly! The ability to identify with the sentiment or tone of the music is a major factor in determining the type of music that appeals to a person. Whether it be the lyrics, the music itself, to bandsw image or whatever, it a major factor.

Chingal0

The interesting thing is, I feel as if when I was in highschool (a whole 4 years ago) that there was only a fraction of kids that listen to shit like Dashboard.. Now it seems as if everyone listens to that shit. Last night for example.. Punk rock party, punk rock chicks etc... Someone changes the cd to the new AFI, and all of a sudden, the stoners in the corner with their Johnny Blaze attire start screaming (read whining) with Davey to the chorus to Silver and Cold. I was fucking baffled. So I just had another beer and begged them to play Too Short.

Anywayssssssssss, it just seems that the fraction turned into the majority. Why? What is in the water nowadays that gets children all emotional? The only thing I worried about in highschool was how I was either going to get to the game on friday night, or how I was going to get to lunch after second period. I didn't wander around aimlessly with my fucking Nikon, trying to capture life one still frame at a time. Mabye I just led a sheltered highschool life, or maybe the fact that I constantly skipped class helped me miss the seed-planters of today's emo youth. I am not sure.

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Stompy

I agree, music is too whiny. Not the lyrics themselves, but the singers are literally too fucking whiny.

A Simple Plan, Sum 41, all those bands, they're so HORRIBLE. It sounds like they took a 14 year old going through puberty and put him in front of the mic. They don't even TRY to have a sound or have personality.. it's all nasaly pre-pubescent singing and I honestly don't see how ANYONE can like it (unless you yourself are going through "the change").

Some compared this to grunge... nothing alike. At least grunge was raw anger and intelligent. Most of the newer music is just more like whiny "I gotta do my homework and be in bed by 9 or I get grounded and can't play with my pokemon" type of angst.

Seriously, it's like half these people wrote the entire album in like 20 minutes. None of the songs have a single ounce of thought put into them. They're just generic lyrics that *ANYONE* could come up with (which is probably why there are so many of these bands nowadays).

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Apokx

So this is a thread for whining about whining?

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(Just pokin fun)

OFKU0

When I first heard the song I thought it was Our Lady Peace. Imagine my amazement knowing how two bands can suck so much and be popular at the same time.

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WarWagon

Look on the bright side. They're songs could suck in exactly the same way, like Nickelback. Heh.

Apokx

Haha,that was hilarious the first time I heard the songs played stacked

Jadedfox

An excellent point, although being older than 19 I still enjoy a bit of whiny music. Not hoobastank though.

--jaded

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