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Old 05-14-2004, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mike Patton

Ok, what is the deal with Mike Patton? People seem to worship him. For what? Just fill me in. I've seen phantomas, and Mr. Bungle, and faith no more(on saturday night live). I still don't get it.

Also, does the drummer for phantomas play with dildos at some point in the show? He's from slayer, I know.
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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the guy can do so many different things.

singing, his vocal sound is great.
screaming, even better.
then he does experimental music which is bizarre and extraordinary.
he jumps from genre to genre, and he's got a loyal fan base.

i read a review of him one time... (paraphrasing)
mike patton could announce a show where he does renditions of air supply songs and his fans would still go see it.

other projects that mike's in...
-loveage
-tomahawk
-and from time to time on john zorn's label...

the guy's just super talented.
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Old 05-14-2004, 02:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Mike Patton is himself, plain and simple. He does his own thing, without a care for what's popular or trendy at the moment, or even how much money it will generate. He is truly experimental. He's always been that way, and that is the primary reason his fan base have kept buying his albums this long. He's by far my favorite musical artist. I hate picking up an album and it just sounds like everything else out there. With Mike, you don't have to worry about that.
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Old 05-14-2004, 04:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I worship him....
why?

Because he is hands down one of the greatest and most versatile musicians ever.
He can do metal, death/black metal screams, pop, jazz, blues, country, eastern, etc.

He is amazing. His vocal range is so vast, theres almost nothing he can't do.....He has some of the highest pitched stuff I've ever listened to, but at the same time, he can sing very low.

Mike Patton has influenced almost every other Rock and Metal band in some way or the other, if not direct, then indirectly because Band X was influenced by Band Y which was influenced by Mike Patton...

Little do people know, he actually could be traced back to be the originator of fusing rap elements with rock....so theres an entire movement there even though many people don't agree with that notion... (forget run dmc/aerosmith, that doesn't count in my book)
Chili Peppers, Incubus, System of A Down, so many more of these bands have been touched by Patton's music in some way....
I can go on forever....but if you haven't checked out his work....go get something from Fantômas, Mr. Bungle, Tomahawk, and ESPECIALLY Faith No More.
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Old 05-14-2004, 05:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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See when I saw fantomas and mr. bungle i just thought they were jokes. Not like in a bad sense, like in a haha, this is actually a joke sense, a planned joke. Seriously though, does the drummer play with dildos. I just downloaded a bunch of faith no more to check out.
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I really think he is an taste you either like or hate. Tomahawk and Faith No More are the 2 more mainstream friendly bands. Tomahawk, though, is not well known at all. Its not even a Mike Patton project, he just dose the vocals.

Faith No More went through several stages; metal, rock, alt. It seems like the more they progressed, the more rock orentated they got and less metal. This would seem to happen due to the constant member changes.

Fantomas is just there. They are sweet, in there own way. I remember reading something about them that Patton said if he was in a elevator, this is what i would want to hear(fantomas).

Mr. Bungle is just amazing. I guess, along the same lines, that you either like or hate it though. Jazz-funk-metal-kickyouinthenuts crazyness. Thats basicaly all that can be said about that.
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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my first response to the name: Who? Never heard of him. Is this one of those young guys out there or is he more of the 'much talked about classics but I know almost nothing about them and basically none of their songs ' groups like Pink Floyd and The Who?
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i used to love mr bungle
theyre actually not that creative, they just have a schizophrenic music style, and they play their music really well
mike patton is the same way for me
hes not creative
everything hes doing has been done before (usually by john zorn)
but hes good at it so its ok

he was amazing on the dillinger escape plan ep though
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Old 05-17-2004, 10:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Alls I know is, Tomahawk was one of the most uninteresting things I've ever seen and heard.
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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One great thing about Patton is that he's always done things ahead of the trends. By the time the trends catch up to what he's doing, he's already abandoned that style and is starting a new one.

I can't think of one more all around talented musician over the last 20 years.
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i used to love mr bungle
theyre actually not that creative, they just have a schizophrenic music style, and they play their music really well
mike patton is the same way for me
hes not creative
everything hes doing has been done before (usually by john zorn)
but hes good at it so its ok

he was amazing on the dillinger escape plan ep though
dumbest thing I've read ever....

Mike Patton is arguably the MOST creative man in music...

I don't feel like writing an essay now...but I think you need to develop that argument a bit more.
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I've been listening to Patton for pretty much half my life. I'm 23 now, but started listening to him when I was 11 or 12 (Faith No More).

Everyone above me pretty much hit the nail on the head on why he's got such a hardcore following.

I like his style of song writing. He's admitted that his songs mean absolutely nothing and that he creates the lyrics around the sound that the words make together rather than an actual meaning. When they DO have a meaning of sorts, his songs are utterly bizarre. Take "Malpractice", for instance.. it's about a woman who enjoys surgery, so she keeps finding excuses to go back to the doctor because she's addicted to the feeling of someone else's hands inside of her.

If you haven't already, give Faith No More's Angel Dust a listen. It is seriously one of the best albums I've heard in my entire life.

Very experimental. Mr. Bungle is just... hard to explain. Their music is actually quite complicated and it's not like most crap that other bands just throw together. Any given song will change pace and will do it perfectly. It'll sound like death metal one second and nicely take a transition into a calm jazz-like atmosphere only to morph into something else.

He's probably the MOST underrated artist out right now. I'm surprised he's not more popular than he is.

In an interview, King Buzzo (guitarist for Fantomas and singer of The Melvins) said something along the lines of, "I have the pleasure of having influenced such artists like Sonic Youth and Nirvana while Patton's influenced bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit and we tease him for that" He's often referred to as the "godfather of nu-metal". He's influenced bands like Deftones, Incubus, Korn, CKY, and Tool. In fact, Tool has become so into his music that they're thinking about collaborating on future projects.

He's just done a lot of great things for music in general.

The new Fantomas, for instance, is one of the most bizarre and truly disturbing things you'll ever hear. It's perfect. Whenever I listen to it, I create this "movie" in my head... of this experimental surgeon in a chamber, and at 16:00 (or whenever the yelling turns into the sudden calm w/ the chilling piano in the background), I visualise a tub of sorts where a mixed stream of water and blood is flowing into a sink. Things like that.. I'd never get those visuals if it wasn't for this music, and a lot of those visuals are things I want to one day create on film.

He's just very influential and brilliant .. words can't even describe it.

It's odd that it sounds so borderline on "obsession", but the man is really THAT good.
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Old 05-24-2004, 03:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Nah, he's not that good.
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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dumbest thing I've read ever....

Mike Patton is arguably the MOST creative man in music...

I don't feel like writing an essay now...but I think you need to develop that argument a bit more.
i could sit down with a mr bungle cd and press pause everytime they change up, and tell you exactly where they got the idea
theyre the quentin tarantino of music
its like listening to a mix cd or soemthing

mike patton hasnt done anything original, so itd be hard to call him the most creative person in music
hes a john zorn fanboy...

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Old 05-24-2004, 07:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
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mike patton hasnt done anything original, so itd be hard to call him the most creative person in music
Uuuuuh. Yeah. Nothing original? Right. That's like saying Shaq's not big. Most everything Patton does is original, and you can't tell me anything about where Patton gets his ideas. For you to call him a fanboy is ridiculous, as he is more eclectic than almost anyone out there. He draws inspiration from anything, on a whim, and composes music like no one else. And he's been doing it for a very long time.

A lot of people don't like him, as is the case with any artist. Or any entertainer, for that matter. And they can argue over what sucks about him or what rules about him. I agree Patton's either your cup of tea or he's not. But for someone to say he's not original? I'm hard pressed to find someone AS original. And the Zorn fanboy thing doesn't click with me either. How do you figure?
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Old 05-25-2004, 03:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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whats so original about him? seriously...
mr bungle doesnt really count because he wasnt involved in the writing as much as trey was
faith no more was a piece of shit
tomahawk is too
fantomas = naked city, even the album ideas
the self titled = naked city self titled, delerium cordia = naked city's absinthe
directors cut is a cover album
what else has he done thats so great? lovage? maldoror? those fart-on-a-mic "experimental" albums?

yes, the guy can sing
i mean, really sing
i LOVED the dillinger escape plan colab
but otherwise... meh, i dont see the big fuss
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