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Strange Famous 05-08-2004 11:46 AM

Who is the hardest man in all of music?
 
I am going for Freddie Foxxx, he is a beast, in a straight up fair fight I think he would destroy any musician currently working (I just hope N.O.R.E. doesnt carry out his threat to shoot him the next time he see's him :( ...)

Honourable mentions gotta go to:

Joseph "Fat Joe" Cartegena
Billy Danzini
RBX
The lead singer of Pantera (Phil Alsemo?)
Raymond Benzino
Vinnie Paz
Jadakiss
Beanie Seigel
Dave Mustaine

And Suge Knight, or any other criminals who work for record companies dont count... Im talking about people who actually make music!

noahfor 05-08-2004 01:03 PM

Danzig, dude.

filtherton 05-08-2004 01:32 PM

Max Cavalera

World's King 05-08-2004 01:38 PM

Lemmy.


'nuff said.

noahfor 05-08-2004 02:19 PM

Why don't you have like a contest. Where there are rounds and we vote on the winner of each match.

Esoteric 05-08-2004 02:35 PM

Vinnie Paz

rockzilla 05-08-2004 03:25 PM

GG Allin.
He would have wanted you to kill him.
For pure badassness though, nobody beats Young Johnny Cash.

Polyphobic 05-08-2004 07:18 PM

Cross jello biafra's attitude and Henry Rollins and you would have had one angry man with muscles to match.

In reality I'll go with Danzig

noahfor 05-08-2004 11:01 PM

I remember seeing kataklysm and thinking the singer could kick my ass.

streak_56 05-09-2004 04:48 AM

Henry Rollins

done and over with

Macheath 05-09-2004 06:27 AM

Who cares about macho posing - leave that shit for the movies (where Harvey Keitel ownz). In music, what counts is what goes on when the instrument is being played.

Shout out for the Jazz contingent....

Arturo Sandoval - as a trumpet player I know what kind of physical control it takes to reach the upper register. When I listen to his latin jazz, my jaw drops as he casually improvises his way into the stratosphere.

rbox 05-09-2004 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by streak_56
Henry Rollins

done and over with

I second that, Henry Rollins!

KWSN 05-09-2004 01:00 PM

after this, I have doubts about Phil Anselmo...:

http://www.metal-sludge.com/ExposedPantera.htm

That being said, I agree with Henry Rollins. I'd like to add Jamey Jasta.

bparker805 05-09-2004 01:17 PM

I will agree with the Danzig and Rollins nominations. I actually saw Glenn clock a guy at a show in Hollywood once! I wonder if he was an angry child...

Chingal0 05-09-2004 01:21 PM

GG Allin is messed up. I second his vote.

noahfor 05-09-2004 01:24 PM

Henry Rollins is a little cry baby. Listen to "I know you". The birds are his true friends. Just because his neck is bigger than my waist doesn't mean anything. Just kidding by the way. Don't get mad at me.








http://www.the7thhouse.com/imagegall...ery%20I/d6.jpg

vs.


http://members.cox.net/_rollins/pics/brisbane_2001.jpg

embo 05-09-2004 05:21 PM

The Man In Black
 
All of the men listed previously would bow in the presence of Johnny Cash. Doesn't even matter that he's dead now.

A harder man you will not find in music.

nanofever 05-09-2004 06:01 PM

Re: The Man In Black
 
Quote:

Originally posted by embo
All of the men listed previously would bow in the presence of Johnny Cash. Doesn't even matter that he's dead now.

A harder man you will not find in music.

Embo beat me to it.

Stompy 05-09-2004 06:16 PM

Justin Timberlake or Aaron Carter.

iamtheone 05-09-2004 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by filtherton
Max Cavalera
Good call!

Just let my Soul Fly

ngdawg 05-09-2004 06:33 PM

get real-NO ONE beats Billy Gibbons for badass attitude, sheer, raw, godlike talent and staying power in a business full of one-hit wonders
http://www.edromanguitars.com/guitar...images/zz1.jpg

YaWhateva 05-09-2004 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by embo
All of the men listed previously would bow in the presence of Johnny Cash. Doesn't even matter that he's dead now.

A harder man you will not find in music.

absolutely

zfleebin 05-09-2004 06:52 PM

I agree with everyone that said Johnny Cash. Still, I gotta admit I never wouldve fucked with Frank Sinatra back in his day because my whole family wouldve probably gotten whacked.

crow_daw 05-09-2004 08:06 PM

Well, OK no one can sit here and deny that 50 Cent is hardcore. The man was SHOT NINE TIMES, and lived to tell the tale, and even brag about it.

BUT

No one touches The Man in Black, I cannot argue with that. He would make Fifty his little bitch. He would teach him respect. He would put mayonnaise on him and eat him like a sandwich.

wrongfullyaccuzd 05-09-2004 08:19 PM

For some reason I'd like to see Andrew WK get his ass beat. Fortunately I think most people mentioned thus far could do it.

TopRamen66 05-09-2004 08:38 PM

I think Zakk Wylde is a badass.

Jadedfox 05-10-2004 01:52 AM

My vote goes to Danzig, hands down.

--jaded

noahfor 05-10-2004 02:32 AM

Where exactly did 50 cent get shot?

iamtheone 05-10-2004 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TopRamen66
I think Zakk Wylde is a badass.

Another good call.

On tour with 2 bands.

Jadedfox 05-10-2004 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by noahfor
Where exactly did 50 cent get shot?
Who is 50 cent? :)

iamtheone 05-10-2004 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jadedfox
Who is 50 cent? :)
Another no talent rapper

Sion 05-10-2004 09:42 AM

"no talent rapper"


thats redundant

iamtheone 05-10-2004 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sion
"no talent rapper"


thats redundant

rap=no talent

;)

iamtheone 05-10-2004 10:10 AM

Sharon Osbourne


lol

Bobaphat 05-10-2004 10:26 AM

I vote Danzig as well. He's got some serious short-man's complex. He is one mean motherfucker. Don't mention the misfits around him if you want to stay in one peice.

gallopingwanker 05-10-2004 03:35 PM

nicholas barker from OMC and dimmu borgir....?

perripken 05-10-2004 04:48 PM

Hands down Barry Manilow

Fearless_Hyena 05-10-2004 05:53 PM

Re: The Man In Black
 
Quote:

Originally posted by embo
All of the men listed previously would bow in the presence of Johnny Cash. Doesn't even matter that he's dead now.

A harder man you will not find in music.

Fucken Eh Right.
'nuff said

mofunk 05-10-2004 06:20 PM

Danzig is a good bet.

Also, I saw Type O Negative in concert, and despite the imposing dark-leather sausage-fest, the singer looked like he could have taken the crown on and lived to tell the tale. But the whole posing in playgirl thing disturbs me.

brinkn1 05-10-2004 08:28 PM

Danzig yo.

My buddy was at a Danzig concert & saw some dude tell Glen that he loved his stuff with the Misfits & Glen straight up clocked him. Didn't say a word either.

crow_daw 05-10-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by noahfor
Where exactly did 50 cent get shot?
Not that anyone here cares, but pretty much everywhere. Including one shot in his god damn face, so yeah the guy's tough. And I'm not defending his music in any fashion, I'm just saying, after something like that, you can't say that he's not pretty tough.

hilbert25 05-10-2004 10:21 PM

Modern, I don't know, I first thought of Pete Steele of Type O Negative, even if he's just a big hippy teddybear on the inside.... maybe Henry Rollins, maybe Ozzie for after all the drugs he's done, he's still walking.

Otherwise, Johnny Cash by far.

silent_jay 05-11-2004 07:08 AM

Young Johnny Cash, can't beat him, RIP Johnny

Stompy 05-11-2004 07:50 AM

Yeah, Pete Steele!

That man is a goddamn monster.

Danzig and Rollins both would look PUNY standing next to him.

Memnoch 05-11-2004 08:34 AM

I'm gonna say Johnny Cash, by far.

However, honorable mentions go to:

Glenn Danzig
Jamie Jasta
Otep (I wouldn't be caught dead picking a fight with that woman)
Henry Rollins
Frank Sinatra
Dr. Dre ("ya'll rap about guns like I ain't got none"...nuff said)
Devin Townsend (angriest man in metal)

Yeah...get 'em all in a ring, see who comes out. My bet'd be on Johnny, but I'd be willing to bet that Dre might give him a run for his money.

Stompy 05-11-2004 08:37 AM

Sinatra is a good choice. Didn't he supposedly have mafia connections?

Don't screw w/ a man like that :)

noahfor 05-11-2004 10:01 AM

Wait, wait, I change my vote from danzig to big lurch, the rapper that after smoking? some sherm killed a woman, cut open her chest, and ate part of her lungs.

cameroncrazy822 05-11-2004 11:32 AM

Without a doubt it's Oscar de la Hoya. He came out with a latin CD a few years ago. I take Oscar in a heartbeat over ANYONE.

KWSN 05-11-2004 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch
Otep (I wouldn't be caught dead picking a fight with that woman)
Hell yeah! That woman is a BEAST.

I'd also have to go with Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy there.... she gives me the creeps.

YaWhateva 05-11-2004 05:34 PM

Why does Danzig hate his days with the misfits so much? I liked the misfits but i really dont like danzig anymore.

images 05-11-2004 07:21 PM

Didn't the drummer from Def Leppard play with only one arm? I'd say in terms of having a positive "hard" attitude, he prevails. As far as bad attitudes go - Danzig, no doubt. I'm also going to mention Dave Mustaine, who if my recollection is accurate, was pronounced dead by doctors, then came back to life.

Angela Gossow is hot.

Oscar Dela Hoya - HAHAHAHAH. That's hilarious. Is his CD any better than Shaq's?

PulpMind 05-12-2004 11:44 PM

Johnny Cash.
Is The Man.

Memnoch 05-14-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by images
Didn't the drummer from Def Leppard play with only one arm? I'd say in terms of having a positive "hard" attitude, he prevails. As far as bad attitudes go - Danzig, no doubt. I'm also going to mention Dave Mustaine, who if my recollection is accurate, was pronounced dead by doctors, then came back to life.

Reminds me of a funny joke:

What has 7 (or is it 9?) arms and sucks?

Def Leppard.

jbuffett 05-14-2004 01:04 PM

gwar. They're psycho....

WarWagon 05-14-2004 05:59 PM

http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/~marshall/tomjones.gif

izzzzy 05-16-2004 01:37 PM

I thought Vinnie Paz was a pro boxer. Tough son of a gun though, he faught Roy Jones junior after recovering from a broken neck.My vote goes for JIM MORRISON.THE KING OF ORGIASTIC ROCK

KWSN 05-16-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarWagon
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/~marshall/tomjones.gif
ROFL

paddyjoe 05-17-2004 05:13 PM

Yup, Johnny Cash was one,

this cowboy was another:


http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0...joe/waylon.jpg

KillerYoda 05-17-2004 10:45 PM

Motherfuckin' Hank Rollins hands down in a flat out fight, but Cash could kick your ass just by looking at you.

Menoman 05-20-2004 07:09 AM

I could go out and get my ass shot if I wanted to also, but if I did you wouldnt see me bragging about being dumb enough to let it happen.

HeAtHeN 05-20-2004 07:10 AM

Henry Rollins.....

.... nuff said!!

sailor 05-20-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crow_daw
Well, OK no one can sit here and deny that 50 Cent is hardcore. The man was SHOT NINE TIMES, and lived to tell the tale, and even brag about it.

BUT

No one touches The Man in Black, I cannot argue with that. He would make Fifty his little bitch. He would teach him respect. He would put mayonnaise on him and eat him like a sandwich.

Ahahahahaha... For some reason, that makes me laugh.

Yes, Johnny Cash is (was?) a badass. He'd put some major ownage on all these guys posing like hardasses.

marz 05-21-2004 02:21 AM

James Hetfield (Can't believe has not been mentioned)
Johnny Cash (The one and only RIP)
David Allen Coe (Does'nt care who you are)
Hank Williams Jr (The king of I'm drunk- lets fight)

And it seems like i heard the entire band of Lynard Skynard liked to brawl back in the day. I just thought of someone else, I bet Ted Nugent would'nt take no shit off anyone either.

KWSN 05-21-2004 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by marz
James Hetfield (Can't believe has not been mentioned)
Thank you for mentioning Hank Williams, about time he got his respect in this thread.... but James Hetfield? Dude, anyone as whiny as him automatically loses all his toughness. He could be the world champion of bareknuckles boxing and he'd still be a pussy if he whined as much as Hetfield.

Hanging out with Lars doesn't help.

MSD 05-21-2004 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crow_daw
Not that anyone here cares, but pretty much everywhere. Including one shot in his god damn face, so yeah the guy's tough. And I'm not defending his music in any fashion, I'm just saying, after something like that, you can't say that he's not pretty tough.
one in the mouth, one in the right hand (into the thumb, out the pinky,) one in his arm, and the other 6 in the leg

frankx 05-23-2004 10:08 AM

Johnny Cash (may he rest in peace), Waylon Jennings (rest in peace as well), and Merle Haggard were all pretty goddamn tough, especially in their early days. I'd pick these three hands down over anyone else mentioned, and yes, that INCLUDES 50 cent.

Also, Sharon Osbourne is not someone who I'd want to be on the bad side of, either. She inherited a lot of her tricks from her father, who managed Black Sabbath in their early days, and was pretty tough in his dealings.

Peter Grant, who managed Led Zeppelin during the 70's, was a particularly iron fisted giant who literally beat the living hell out of more than one individual on Zep's rise to power. If there's a list of tough-ass people in the music biz, he should be on it. Read Hammer of the Gods for the details.

KWSN 05-24-2004 06:24 PM

In a similar vein as Jennings and Haggard, David Allan Coe was also not someone I'd want to take on.

H12 05-24-2004 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KWSN
Thank you for mentioning Hank Williams, about time he got his respect in this thread.... but James Hetfield? Dude, anyone as whiny as him automatically loses all his toughness. He could be the world champion of bareknuckles boxing and he'd still be a pussy if he whined as much as Hetfield.

Hanging out with Lars doesn't help.

God bless you. Those Napster-hatin' sons of bitches.

I'll agree with crow_daw, who coincidentally named the same two people I came into this thread to nominate; 50 is tough as hell for surviving nine shots...but Johnny Cash's stare alone could set the tone anywhere he wants the tone set.

Lacjack 05-24-2004 08:06 PM

how about hands down Johnny Cash for the hardest man in music.

h2ogo69 05-24-2004 09:35 PM

i take rollins in a fight over anyone in the world... but johnny cash was a serious hard ass back in the day... men cringed at a stare from those cold ass eys... u knwo ur hardcore when u can kick someones ass w/o moving a muscle...

and if u wanna play a mental game here id take maynard james keenan over anyone... some of his words scare the fuck out of me


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