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iamtheone 05-01-2004 07:31 PM

new Slipknot
 
Anyone got it?

Anyone catch the new show?

Thoughts on their direction.....

kiwiman 05-01-2004 07:55 PM

Terrible. Taylor has lost his voice entirely, and it just sounds horrible.

They have a shitload of talent, and they're wasting it all just to appeal to their core fanbase of 10-14 year olds. If they dropped the masks, Taylor, the DJ and Sampler (Which should just be one person anyway) They'd have the makings of an amazing metal band. The three drummers is an interesting concept, but they hardly ever use them in thier songs.

Their only good album was MFKR.

brandon11983 05-01-2004 09:46 PM

*snore*

Slipknot is sooo 4 years ago.

MFKR fucking owned.

iamtheone 05-03-2004 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brandon11983
*snore*

Slipknot is sooo 4 years ago.

MFKR fucking owned.


Was that the pre-Slipknot project?

kwoodmex 05-03-2004 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iamtheone
Was that the pre-Slipknot project?
no, MFKR, Mate Feed Kill Repeat, is their first album, before Roadrunner picked em up and blah blah blah.

Memnoch 05-03-2004 07:26 AM

MFKR and their self-titled were both amazing. I liked the direction Taylor was originally taking the band...and then they just kind of petered off once that...other...album came out. I've heard rumor that if this next album doesn't do well, that they're going they're separate ways.

kwoodmex 05-03-2004 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch
MFKR and their self-titled were both amazing. I liked the direction Taylor was originally taking the band...and then they just kind of petered off once that...other...album came out. I've heard rumor that if this next album doesn't do well, that they're going they're separate ways.
Some of the new stuff sounded decent on stage. A lot better than the craptacular Iowa :rolleyes:, but I don't know how well the album will do.

sixate 05-03-2004 04:05 PM

I've heard 4 songs from the new album, and they were soooooo bad I deleted them. The new album will completely suck. :mad:

Kurant 05-03-2004 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kiwiman

They have a shitload of talent, and they're wasting it all just to appeal to their core fanbase of 10-14 year olds. If they dropped the masks, Taylor, the DJ and Sampler (Which should just be one person anyway) They'd have the makings of an amazing metal band.

You mean, sell out.

Iowa is terrible, the new album is terrible. Sucks, I was looking foward to another Slipknot album. Now that I have it, well, you get the idea.

cockmonger 05-03-2004 08:12 PM

First of all, MKFR isn't realllly a slipknot album, i mean it is, but it's not the same slipknot...different lead singer, less band members...not really the nontet we see today.
-Corey lost his voice...where the hell did the mega screaming go...why does it just sound like another shitty hardcore band now.
-Duality (they're single) sounds like something Stone Sour would do...theres a shade of corey...but come on it's not slipknot.

-All of you trashing Iowa are over looking some of the really cool shit that was done on that album.
-Skin Ticket is some of the most disturbing, straight jacket material i've heard from a metal band in a while, well yeah...thats pretty much the high point...iowa did suck...my bad.

bottom line...this album IS going to blow...maybe worth a download then deletion...Kinda like the past 3 Limp Bizkit albums.

brandon11983 05-03-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
I've heard 4 songs from the new album, and they were soooooo bad I deleted them. The new album will completely suck. :mad:
Agreed. Good call sixate.

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch
MFKR and their self-titled were both amazing. I liked the direction Taylor was originally taking the band...and then they just kind of petered off once that...other...album came out. I've heard rumor that if this next album doesn't do well, that they're going they're separate ways.
They won't be doing anything after this album. I read on the PRP a while ago that the band will be going their own ways after this record. Corey said he doesn't want to see Slipknot become what became of GWAR after their motif got old.

iamtheone 05-04-2004 03:28 AM

They did re-spark that genre "look" in music again that is for sure. Iowa had a few good songs. They lacked however, Slipknot's staple, their "groove". Without that, they are nothing.

Spit it out!

Memnoch 05-04-2004 07:20 AM

Hey now, don't diss GWAR! They're fucking amazing! Even now!

WE ARE GWAR, WE PLAY GUITAR, WE WILL GO FAR, WE'LL EAT YOUR CAR!

Scorps 05-04-2004 09:41 AM

This is Slipknots last album...thats because Taylor has Stonesour to fall back on...he said that on Much Loud


He was talking about how Slipknot isn't a band that will be around for a long time but Stonesour will be! I don't know how some of Stonesour's songs sound like Slipknot

kiwiman 05-04-2004 09:22 PM

There are conflicting reports regarding this being their last album or not.

Some members have been saying it won't be, some have said it will be.

Apparantly Taylor has been saying it won't be their last at recent shows.

CheeseButtons 05-04-2004 09:36 PM

It's horrible.

He needs to stick with Stone Sour...they rock.

kwoodmex 05-05-2004 06:36 AM

I could handle this being Slipknots last album. I don't think anyone would shed a tear, well maybe those weirdos that make up their maggot corps. I kept hearing a bunch of dumbass kids yell out, "I'm one of your maggots corey.....command me" at the show last Fri. The youth of america *shaking head....sigh*

I'd be content hearing another Stonesour album and another Murderdolls album I could blast on my way to work, wouldn't hurt either

brandon11983 05-05-2004 09:23 AM

If I hear anything from Murderdolls, I will blast a lot on my way to work..... from a clock tower with a high power rifle.

Scorps 05-05-2004 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brandon11983
If I hear anything from Murderdolls, I will blast a lot on my way to work..... from a clock tower with a high power rifle.
HAHA never heard of those guys:confused:

sixate 05-05-2004 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pain Train
HAHA never heard of those guys:confused:
Trust me. You don't ever want to hear of them.

iamtheone 05-05-2004 09:52 AM

I am not too much of a fan of Murderdolls or stone sour. Isn't Murderdolls, Dope with Slipknots drummer?

Scorps 05-05-2004 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
Trust me. You don't ever want to hear of them.
OK

Kaos 05-05-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
Trust me. You don't ever want to hear of them.
This man speaks the truth.

cockmonger 05-05-2004 08:39 PM

Corey just said in an interview pre-IOWA that they'd probibly do two or three more albums then call it quits before things got too stale...i'd say it's alittle late, eh Corey?

a_divine_martyr 05-05-2004 10:18 PM

Iowa was a good song, too.

Although I'm a huge fan of Killers are Quiet, so...

hehe.

kiwiman 05-05-2004 11:25 PM

ALL of the original MFKR songs are superior to the remakes. It's the only time that they had inspired lyrics that weren't childish and immature.

Aborted 05-05-2004 11:38 PM

I like all the new songs I've heard, and having taken into account the quality of the criticism they've been getting, I feel no need to justify my opinion other than to say Mr. Taylor's vocals sound, to me, more reminiscent of the s/t album.

MFKR really wasn't that great by any stretch of the imagination. Tons of experimentation does not equal quality, but I guess that's where the major division lies and we'll all have to agree to disagree.

xthinkagain 05-06-2004 08:10 AM

Quote:

[i]
-Corey lost his voice...where the hell did the mega screaming go...why does it just sound like another shitty hardcore band now.
-[/B]
they sound nothing like a hardcore band, theyre nu metal just like every other band that gets listed on here as hardcore

and yes i dont know how to quote correctly...

Scorps 05-06-2004 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xthinkagain
they sound nothing like a hardcore band, theyre nu metal just like every other band that gets listed on here as hardcore

and yes i dont know how to quote correctly...



what is hardcore really? because people cal Disturbed, Slipknot, etc. hardcore and other will call it Nu Metal so what is a Hardcore band?





Oh and to Quote just hit the quote button at the bottom right of the person you want to quote:p

brandon11983 05-06-2004 10:30 AM

People who call Disturd and Slipknot hardcore are the first to be shot by me. Those fucks are Nu Metal.

A hardcore band is often more underground (not publicly known) than mainstream music. The music is much "purer" and more real than mainstream shit. The artists actually have a passion for what they do. Their music is their life, not their job. Most members of hardcore bands do it as a side pursuit, as they all have real jobs by day. One of my fave bands Burnt by the Sun, although actually grindcore, has a WAN engineer for a drummer. The sad thing is most of the bands don't last that long. The somewhat upside to this is that they will put out a few excellent albums before their particular additions to the hardcore scene get old.

Examples are:

Every Time I Die
All Else Failed
Eighteen Visions (older stuff is best)
Evergreen Terrace
in reverent fear
Poison the Well

iamtheone 05-06-2004 10:55 AM

My outlook:

Rock: Green Day

Metal: Disturbed

Heavy:Slipknot

Hardcore:Lamb of God, InFlames.

God: SOAD

Memnoch 05-06-2004 11:11 AM

I wouldn't consider Green Day "rock," by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe "Easy Listening?"

My take on things:

Rock: Clutch

Hardcore: Hatebreed

Metal: Strapping Young Lad

Death Metal: Deicide

Heavy Metal: Slayer

Nu-Metal: Slipknot

Industrial: Skinny Puppy

Industrial Metal: Rammstein

Rapcore: Otep

Math Metal: Meshuggah

brandon11983 05-06-2004 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iamtheone
God: SOAD
Good god. Get over it. 3 nearly identical albums.


My take:

Rock: is dead
Hardcore: Hatebreed is a good one.
Metal: Motorhead, Pantera, early Metallica
Death Metal: Cannibal Corpse, Nile, Disfear, Dysrhythmia
Heavy Metal: nothing worth mentioning
Nu Metal: punishable by crucifixion
Industrial: Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, Bile
Rapcore: see Nu metal
Math Metal: Dillinger Escape Plan
Annoying as fuck: Meshuggah

iamtheone 05-07-2004 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brandon11983
Good god. Get over it. 3 nearly identical albums.

Each to their own....


Annoying as fuck: Meshuggah

3 words: Future Breed Machine - It gets no better!

a_divine_martyr 05-07-2004 06:51 PM

Rock: AC-DC
Punk: The Sex Pistols
Pop-punk: Green Day, Simple Plan, Blink 182
Hardcore: Eighteen Visions, Poison the Well, From Autumn to Ashes
Death Metal: Dying Fetus, Skinless, Exhumed
Grindcore: Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Converge, Cephalic Carnage, Pig Destroyer
Nu metal: Disturbed, Slipknot
Black Metal: Dimmu Borgir
Every-Genre-of-Metal: Anything that's signed to Relapse Records.

KWSN 05-07-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch
I wouldn't consider Green Day "rock," by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe "Easy Listening?"

My take on things:

Rock: Clutch

Hardcore: Hatebreed

Metal: Strapping Young Lad

Death Metal: Deicide

Heavy Metal: Slayer

Nu-Metal: Slipknot

Industrial: Skinny Puppy

Industrial Metal: Rammstein

Rapcore: Otep

Math Metal: Meshuggah


Labels: Moronic.

anyway.....

I saw the new Slipknot live show, I don't like Slipknot's actual music but i like their show just because it's something loud to move around to (plus, the other bands on the bill kicked ass... Chimaira, Sworn Enemy, and Fear Factory). Anyway, the live show is still the same. Overblown, exaggerated, whatever. But it does what it's there to do, get people kicking the shit out of each other in the pit. Works for me.

DownwardSpiral 05-07-2004 07:42 PM

I think it's interesting that once a band goes from being pretty much kept off radio and TV to having one song on the radio, everyobody turns against them, calls them 'mainstream', because that's what I'm getting out of this thread. In my opinion, Slipknot is Slipknot, and I like them regardless. But to each their own.

Until we meet again. . .

Slayer 05-07-2004 08:05 PM

I agree that corey's voice sucks in the new songs. His voice sounds like stone sour voice, not slipknot IMO.

MurderDolls has only have one good song and that is Dead In Hollywood.

TopRamen66 05-07-2004 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by a_divine_martyr
Rock: AC-DC
Punk: The Sex Pistols
Pop-punk: Green Day, Simple Plan, Blink 182
Hardcore: Eighteen Visions, Poison the Well, From Autumn to Ashes
Death Metal: Dying Fetus, Skinless, Exhumed
Grindcore: Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Converge, Cephalic Carnage, Pig Destroyer
Nu metal: Disturbed, Slipknot
Black Metal: Dimmu Borgir
Every-Genre-of-Metal: Anything that's signed to Relapse Records.


Although I think all these genre classificatations are pointless internet babble...you nailed them, sir.

iamtheone 05-08-2004 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KWSN
Labels: Moronic.

I saw the new Slipknot live show, I don't like Slipknot's actual music but i like their show just because it's something loud to move around to (plus, the other bands on the bill kicked ass... Chimaira, Sworn Enemy, and Fear Factory). Anyway, the live show is still the same. Overblown, exaggerated, whatever. But it does what it's there to do, get people kicking the shit out of each other in the pit. Works for me.


Dick! (mean that in a good way).... That show is not coming this way. By the time it gets here it is Ozzfest. I bet that was a great fucking show...... How was Chimaira?


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