Rolling Stone picks the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

sadatx · 11-30-2003, 03:56 PM

Here it is:

http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2164

Personally, I think they went with some odd choices in some parts. And I'm not sure if I'd call Sgt. Pepper's the best album of all time. But I'll go with it.

boxcarracer277 · 11-30-2003, 04:38 PM

I could never create a list like that. . .but Sgt. Pepper's isn't even my favorite beatles album. I can't choose a favorite. . .but sgt. pepper's isn't really up there for me.

sailor · 11-30-2003, 07:49 PM

I would have to vote for Led Zeppelin IV. I cant believe they put Led Zeppelin I before IV--it was definitely good, but IV is the definitive album.

Jadey · 11-30-2003, 08:36 PM

ARRRRGGGGGH! Killing me!!! Dark Side Of The Moon #43!!!

Okay, so I'm not even going to look at the rest of that shit list!

Batman976 · 11-30-2003, 08:53 PM

I would really like to know what criteria they used to compile this list. Do they say anywhere?

MSD · 11-30-2003, 11:48 PM

I got it the other day. My brother and I just sat there mocking their choices for twenty minutes. Some were good, some were way off.

KWSN · 12-01-2003, 07:28 AM

MOTHERFUCKING PET SOUNDS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The Beach Boys are one of the most pathetically overrated groups ever. Every fucking song is the same, and all those songs are Chuck Berry ripoffs. Their lyrics aren't even clever. This fucking kills me. Horrid.

ledhead · 12-01-2003, 09:36 PM

man, i cant even believe they attempted to rate something like this. it is just too difficult to declare an album, the greatest album of all time. 2 reasons. it has not been all time, and until it has then you can make a list. it is also way to subjective. everybody is going to have a different opinion. and believe me i have my differences with that list.

i mean come on having 4 beatles albums in the top ten and not having a zeppelin album until 29.

i all have to say is they could have done a better job. but why did they even attempt it. whatever.

anleja · 12-01-2003, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Batman976
I would really like to know what criteria they used to compile this list. Do they say anywhere?

I got this directly from the magazine.
"...Rolling Stone polled a blue-ribbon body of rock & roll stars and authorities and asked them to pick their top 50 albums in order of preference. The 273 voters spanned every decade and genre of popular music, from the 1950s to the present, including Beck, U2 guitarist the Edge, Ray Manzarek and John Densmore of the Doors, Fats Domino, Jackson Browne, Art Garfunkel, Flea and John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Britney Spears, Metallica's James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich, Missy Elliott and folk patriarch Pete Seeger. Among the top behind-the-scenec figures: David Geffen, Warner Music Group chairman and CEO Roger Ames, produced Rick Rubin and seminal session musicians Hal Blaine (the Beach Boys, Phil Spector) and James Burton (Elvis Presley, Rick Nelson)..."

"The ballots were scored by the accounting firm of Ernst & Young and overseen by the Rolling Stone editors. We assigned 100 points for each first-place vote, 50 points for each second-place vote, 33-1/3 points for each third-place vote, and so on, down to 2 points for each fiftieth-place vote. We then ranked albums appearing on at least five ballots."

I remember the first time Rolling Stone used the internet for polling "regular" people about their favorite musicians, and Backstreet Boys won artist of the year.

TheClarkster · 12-01-2003, 11:13 PM

So where were Tom Petty and Deep Purple? I'm sure there were others missing that I can't think of.

PeaceFrog · 12-02-2003, 08:55 PM

Wow, so many missing. Sgt.Pepper's is definitely not the best Beatles album, while the Beatles should be #1, i don't think it should be Sgt.Pepper. That is definitely an "interesting" list to say the least...

Kaos · 12-02-2003, 09:13 PM

I'm not even going to bother looking at that list. I know I will only get pissed off with their choices.

JohnnyRock · 12-03-2003, 06:53 AM

not going to look at anymore than the fop 100...when Zepplin doesn't show up until #29 you know there is a problem...and Nevermind--Every Metallica Album is better than that overrated poece of crap!

OFKU0 · 12-04-2003, 10:03 AM

Now this is very funny. But of course you can't make everyone happy. Argueably one could have at least replaced 2 of the Beatles top 10 spots with Led Zeppelin, The Who,Deep Purple,Janis Joplin, The Doors,Van Halen,Queen,Black Sabbath to say the least.

The Clash I don't think so. Perhaps if Rolling Stone looked at innovators instead of immitators they would have picked the Sex Pistols.

And Bob Dylan getting 2 nods in the top 10 is the funniest thing I've seen all day. Bob Dylan is the most overated piece of shit so-called living legend ever. Back to the innovation rather than imitation.Toss Bob Dylan out and give people like Woodie Guthrie and Pete Seger credit.Afterall that's who Dylan ripped off under the guise of originality.

herostar · 12-04-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Jadey
ARRRRGGGGGH! Killing me!!! Dark Side Of The Moon #43!!!

Okay, so I'm not even going to look at the rest of that shit list!

my thoughts exactly...

It looks to me like there were some beetles fans making this list

rockzilla · 12-04-2003, 06:14 PM

You're never going to be able to please everybody with a list like that. There's no quantitative way to measure how much something rocks (although if there was I say we name the unit of measurement 'The Hendrix').

And, from anleja's post, why the hell did they ask Britney Spears? What does she know about music?

essendoubleop · 12-04-2003, 08:32 PM

Rolling Stone ain't shit. Wannabes.

taliendo · 12-04-2003, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kaos
I'm not even going to bother looking at that list. I know I will only get pissed off with their choices.

the last rolling stone list to piss me off was 100 greatest guitarists of all time. . . fuckers.

sadatx · 12-05-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by KWSN
MOTHERFUCKING PET SOUNDS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The Beach Boys are one of the most pathetically overrated groups ever.

BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY! How can you say that? "Pet Sounds" should be number one.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion. So I won't say anymore abou....no...I ca.....I must correct horribly incorrect statement

BLASPHEMY! PET SOUNDS IS AN AWESOME ALBUM!

...

archer2371 · 12-05-2003, 08:08 AM

Rolling Stone can't pick anything for shit, you remember the 100 greatest guitarists? Yeah, Kurt Cobain was number 12 or 13, yeah, they've lost all of my respect.

Spektr · 12-05-2003, 08:29 AM

Radiohead's OK Computer is number 162???!?!?! What the fuck? Is this some kind of joke? OK Computer contains absolutely every aspect of a perfect album and deserves to be at least in the top 5. That's ridiculous

OFKU0 · 12-05-2003, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by archer2371
Rolling Stone can't pick anything for shit, you remember the 100 greatest guitarists? Yeah, Kurt Cobain was number 12 or 13, yeah, they've lost all of my respect.

Kurt Cobain a great guitar player? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. If that's the case I am the greatest guitar player too live EVER.

anti fishstick · 12-05-2003, 01:00 PM

i hate these lists because everything is so subjective and claiming these albums as the "best" is all opinion, not fact. i just don't think it's very substantial at all.

that's why i refuse to click the link :P

Poloboy · 12-13-2003, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by OFKU0
Perhaps if Rolling Stone looked at innovators instead of immitators

I think this was their reasoning behind picking Sgt. Pepper's as number 1. It broke so many boundaries and turned so many heads, its combined innovation and musical merit makes it rank first.

wilbjammin · 12-13-2003, 03:29 PM

Soundgarden - Superunknown - #336

Took long enough...

Three of Eminem's albums made it above that.

My bias says "boo" to pushing Soundgarden so low.

omega2K4 · 12-13-2003, 05:19 PM

Worst. List. EVAR.

LivingDead · 12-13-2003, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by omega2K4
Worst. List. EVAR.

I'll second that.

chingador · 12-14-2003, 08:00 AM

I don't know why people still attempt to make these "greatest ever" lists. Maybe it's just to tweak people out and get them pissed about some of the rankings, because you know if you're thinking "how the hell did this album get on here" that you'll read through the rest of the list looking for other albums to bitch about.

The majority of these lists seem to be just rehashes of other ones too. They pick the 20 or so best albums ever, which consist mainly of the Beatles and Dylan's output from the 60s, randomly assign numbers to them, and throw in some other "essential" albums like Pet Sounds and something by the Clash.

What really got me about RS's list this year was how they included the new No Doubt album as an essential. What!!?!!?!

---

Chingador

lions20 · 12-31-2003, 12:11 PM

They have Led Zep rated too low.

loganmule · 01-01-2004, 12:10 AM

Obviously too subjective to come up with a consensus on which 500 albums belong, much less the order of them. Still, it's worth going thru the list to see if you've overlooked something worth including in your music library.

11-30-2003, 03:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
sadatx Psycho	Rolling Stone picks the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time Here it is: http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2164 Personally, I think they went with some odd choices in some parts. And I'm not sure if I'd call Sgt. Pepper's the best album of all time. But I'll go with it.

11-30-2003, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	I would have to vote for Led Zeppelin IV. I cant believe they put Led Zeppelin I before IV--it was definitely good, but IV is the definitive album. __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

11-30-2003, 08:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	I would really like to know what criteria they used to compile this list. Do they say anywhere? __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

12-01-2003, 07:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
KWSN green	MOTHERFUCKING PET SOUNDS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! The Beach Boys are one of the most pathetically overrated groups ever. Every fucking song is the same, and all those songs are Chuck Berry ripoffs. Their lyrics aren't even clever. This fucking kills me. Horrid. __________________ Your arms are broken!

12-01-2003, 09:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
ledhead Crazy Location: So. Cal	man, i cant even believe they attempted to rate something like this. it is just too difficult to declare an album, the greatest album of all time. 2 reasons. it has not been all time, and until it has then you can make a list. it is also way to subjective. everybody is going to have a different opinion. and believe me i have my differences with that list. i mean come on having 4 beatles albums in the top ten and not having a zeppelin album until 29. i all have to say is they could have done a better job. but why did they even attempt it. whatever. __________________ "If you can count the number of cylinders on one hand....it is NOT a race car." big bubba "Diplomacy is the art of letting someone else have your way"

11-30-2003, 04:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
boxcarracer277 Tilted	I could never create a list like that. . .but Sgt. Pepper's isn't even my favorite beatles album. I can't choose a favorite. . .but sgt. pepper's isn't really up there for me.

11-30-2003, 08:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jadey This Space For Rent Location: Davenport, Iowa	ARRRRGGGGGH! Killing me!!! Dark Side Of The Moon #43!!! Okay, so I'm not even going to look at the rest of that shit list!

11-30-2003, 11:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	I got it the other day. My brother and I just sat there mocking their choices for twenty minutes. Some were good, some were way off.

12-01-2003, 11:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
TheClarkster Very Proud of Ya Location: Simi Valley, CA	So where were Tom Petty and Deep Purple? I'm sure there were others missing that I can't think of. __________________ Do not speak Latin in front of the books.

12-02-2003, 08:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
PeaceFrog Tilted Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia	Wow, so many missing. Sgt.Pepper's is definitely not the best Beatles album, while the Beatles should be #1, i don't think it should be Sgt.Pepper. That is definitely an "interesting" list to say the least... __________________ The only people for me are the mad ones...

12-02-2003, 09:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kaos Ssssssssss Location: Ontario	I'm not even going to bother looking at that list. I know I will only get pissed off with their choices.

12-03-2003, 06:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
JohnnyRock Addict Location: Taxachussetts	not going to look at anymore than the fop 100...when Zepplin doesn't show up until #29 you know there is a problem...and Nevermind--Every Metallica Album is better than that overrated poece of crap! __________________ Not only do I not know the answer...I don't even know what the question is!!!

12-04-2003, 10:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
OFKU0 Junk	Now this is very funny. But of course you can't make everyone happy. Argueably one could have at least replaced 2 of the Beatles top 10 spots with Led Zeppelin, The Who,Deep Purple,Janis Joplin, The Doors,Van Halen,Queen,Black Sabbath to say the least. The Clash I don't think so. Perhaps if Rolling Stone looked at innovators instead of immitators they would have picked the Sex Pistols. And Bob Dylan getting 2 nods in the top 10 is the funniest thing I've seen all day. Bob Dylan is the most overated piece of shit so-called living legend ever. Back to the innovation rather than imitation.Toss Bob Dylan out and give people like Woodie Guthrie and Pete Seger credit.Afterall that's who Dylan ripped off under the guise of originality. __________________ " In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard. Last edited by OFKU0; 12-04-2003 at 10:05 AM..

12-04-2003, 06:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
rockzilla Junkie Location: The Kitchen	You're never going to be able to please everybody with a list like that. There's no quantitative way to measure how much something rocks (although if there was I say we name the unit of measurement 'The Hendrix'). And, from anleja's post, why the hell did they ask Britney Spears? What does she know about music?

12-04-2003, 08:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
essendoubleop Psycho	Rolling Stone ain't shit. Wannabes.

12-13-2003, 05:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
omega2K4 Natalie Portman is sexy. Location: The Outer Rim	Worst. List. EVAR. __________________ "While the State exists there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin "Reason has always existed, but not always in a reasonable form."- Karl Marx

12-05-2003, 08:08 AM	#20 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Rolling Stone can't pick anything for shit, you remember the 100 greatest guitarists? Yeah, Kurt Cobain was number 12 or 13, yeah, they've lost all of my respect. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

12-05-2003, 08:29 AM	#21 (permalink)
Spektr Copacetic Location: Nati	Radiohead's OK Computer is number 162???!?!?! What the fuck? Is this some kind of joke? OK Computer contains absolutely every aspect of a perfect album and deserves to be at least in the top 5. That's ridiculous

12-05-2003, 01:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
anti fishstick Post-modernism meets Individualism AKA the Clash Location: oregon	i hate these lists because everything is so subjective and claiming these albums as the "best" is all opinion, not fact. i just don't think it's very substantial at all. that's why i refuse to click the link :P __________________ And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. ~Anais Nin

12-13-2003, 03:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
wilbjammin * * *	Soundgarden - Superunknown - #336 Took long enough... Three of Eminem's albums made it above that. My bias says "boo" to pushing Soundgarden so low. __________________ Innominate.

12-14-2003, 08:00 AM	#28 (permalink)
chingador Junkie Location: WI	I don't know why people still attempt to make these "greatest ever" lists. Maybe it's just to tweak people out and get them pissed about some of the rankings, because you know if you're thinking "how the hell did this album get on here" that you'll read through the rest of the list looking for other albums to bitch about. The majority of these lists seem to be just rehashes of other ones too. They pick the 20 or so best albums ever, which consist mainly of the Beatles and Dylan's output from the 60s, randomly assign numbers to them, and throw in some other "essential" albums like Pet Sounds and something by the Clash. What really got me about RS's list this year was how they included the new No Doubt album as an essential. What!!?!!?! --- Chingador

12-31-2003, 12:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
lions20 Insane	They have Led Zep rated too low.

01-01-2004, 12:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
loganmule Junkie Location: midwest	Obviously too subjective to come up with a consensus on which 500 albums belong, much less the order of them. Still, it's worth going thru the list to see if you've overlooked something worth including in your music library.