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Sleepyjack 11-27-2003 10:34 PM

Headphones vs other listening device
 
Normally i lisetn to music whilst on my computer. Anyway, although my amp recently blew up/died i had to start using headphones when on te comp.

I just have some standard headphones nothing spiffy, but it seems when the music is 'pumped' right into your ears you can actually hear and appreciate more about the music?
Some music is elaboratley layered and complex and i found that when i had headphones on, i heard different and new things about some songs. Namely different backings, lost harmonies, subtle bass tones and other random/background noise/sound.
Anyway i thought it was really cool.

Normally, when i've heard stuff otherwise on headphones, it's been on a shitty cassette walkman i've had for ages and the quality isn't really good. But hearing it off the comp bought some good quality tunes and i heard lots of new stuff i didn't really notcie too much before.
Another things, is sometimes i get lost in what i am doing and the music escapes me. BUt when oyu ahve headphones you it's much harder to "tune out" of other sound since it's right in your ears.

The only downfall is that after a while, my ears start to hurt a bit :( not so much from the loudness but just them being on your head for a while? maybe i'll get used to it though.

anyone else have different expereince with headphones, or your preference of listening devices?

Macheath 11-28-2003 06:16 AM

I like being able to listen to music late at night so headphones are compulsory. Last year I got some really nice headphones; a pair of Grado SR60s (www.gradolabs.com). Expensive but worth it.

When I first plugged them into a good amp, I listened to an album that I thought I knew well. Lo and behold I found a whole hidden bassline that I'd never noticed before, sooo detailed. They're open at the back so they do leak noise (price you pay for the good sound quality).

In terms of price to quality ratio, you get more bang for the buck from a good pair of headphones than from a comparatively good pair of speakers.

spived2 11-28-2003 07:27 AM

I listen to headphones more often than not because I live in a room with about 20 other people so I try to respect their space by keeping it quiet.

I noticed with those cheap plastic ones that wrap around your neck hurt my ears after about an hour of listenin. I bought a pair of those headphones that go around your ears and block all the ambiant sound. The only cost me about 20 bucks and they're awesome. Plus they never hurt my ears.

boxcarracer277 11-28-2003 03:59 PM

Headphones equal better listening quality for me as well. All the little things just escape you without the music source right next to your ears. This has nothing to do with the quality of the sound, but when I'm at my computer with headphones I find myself looking over my shoulder and pausing the music all the time because I can't hear what's going on with my back to my door. So during the day with people busy in the house, I always go with the speakers.

nanofever 11-28-2003 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Macheath
I like being able to listen to music late at night so headphones are compulsory. Last year I got some really nice headphones; a pair of Grado SR60s (www.gradolabs.com). Expensive but worth it.

When I first plugged them into a good amp, I listened to an album that I thought I knew well. Lo and behold I found a whole hidden bassline that I'd never noticed before, sooo detailed. They're open at the back so they do leak noise (price you pay for the good sound quality).

In terms of price to quality ratio, you get more bang for the buck from a good pair of headphones than from a comparatively good pair of speakers.

I would say my pair of SR60's make me 3-4 times better at counter-strike because of sound quality. Did you take the foam and cut circles in the middle ? I think it makes the quality better.

archer2371 11-28-2003 07:12 PM

The Sony recording headphones are pretty good and have directional ear pads to direct the sound better towards your ear drum. I agree, it seems as if you get the subtle things when you're listening thru the headphones.

Craven Morehead 11-28-2003 11:00 PM

For comfort and a decent sound try the Koss Earbuds, they mold to the interior of your ear canal. Bought mine at Best Buy.

http://www.spysupply007.com/Headphon...s/THEPLUG.html

sailor 11-29-2003 08:22 PM

Yeah, Grado makes some good stuff.

The reason that you are hearing more is that it is much cheaper and easier to produce a higher quality headphone. It would take a $4000 pair of speakers to get the detail you can get out of a $500 pair of headphones. This isnt to say that cheapo $10 headphones are good or any subsitute for a decent pair of speakers, but as a whole, headphones sound better for less money.

Anomaly_ 11-29-2003 09:40 PM

I have a pair of Beyerdynamic 250-80s and they're pretty nice in sound and feel for mid-range, closed phones. Like sailor420 said, you can get much better quality from headphones than similarly priced speakers.
HeadRoom is a good retailer and buying guide for a wide range of headphones in price and application.

brandon11983 12-01-2003 10:17 AM

Sennheiser makes some really nice headphones, too. A good set will reveal more of the music than crappy speakers can.

alt0220bergeek 12-01-2003 11:15 PM

I'll second the vote for Sennheiser. Some of the best ones for the money. You can get better, but that gets expensive fast (just like great speakers and amps).

And an odd tip if you do go shopping for a new amp... pick it up. The stuff that you need for good AND loud is heavy. So if by features, there are two that are similar and you can't decide listen to them and weigh them. Besides, it is great to see the look on the salesman's face when you ask to, or just pick up, the amp.

brandon11983 12-02-2003 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by alt0220bergeek
And an odd tip if you do go shopping for a new amp... pick it up. The stuff that you need for good AND loud is heavy. So if by features, there are two that are similar and you can't decide listen to them and weigh them. Besides, it is great to see the look on the salesman's face when you ask to, or just pick up, the amp.
Although most good amps are heavy, some manufacturers caught onto this feat and would actually put lead in their amps to make them feel heavier. Stick with good brands such as Yamaha, Denon, and/or Integra and you'll be fine.

Evil Milkman 12-02-2003 09:22 AM

I used to have headphones, but somehow I lost them. So now I'm stuck with listening to the computer speakers now. I sure wish I could find those things...

Chingal0 12-02-2003 01:53 PM

I have had 2 pairs of Sennheiser headphones, and they are really great, but they seem to break quite easily. Of course it does not help that I throw them around on a regular basis, but what the hell. I currently have the HD570's and they are great, but I need to take them in to get fixed, so I am stuck with these shitty computer speakers instead. But yea, I agree to an extent that headphones aid in hearing subtle notes etc in music or whatever, especially if you compare them to a 10 dollar set of PC speakers heh.

Xiangsu 12-02-2003 05:14 PM

You know what, this thread kinda freaked me out. Because when I first saw this I had just got some head phones and was listening to music on them and I could totally tell the difference. They are nothing real great, kind of generic, but I can still tell the difference.

Sleepyjack 12-09-2003 09:08 PM

Any good suggestions on headphones that don't leak noise? or aren't open at the back?

I want to listen to music in my office at work, although the current headphones i have leak a bit of noise (general feedback), and it sorta annoys my supervisor (whos in the same office) :( The noise is pretty loud though?

Or any DIY job for insulating headphones? :)

no music at work is killing me :(

Kush 12-10-2003 08:01 AM

I concur with the SR-60s. At night when everyone is in bed and i can't have my speakers blaring out, they make up for it completely.

sailor 12-10-2003 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepyjack
Any good suggestions on headphones that don't leak noise? or aren't open at the back?

I want to listen to music in my office at work, although the current headphones i have leak a bit of noise (general feedback), and it sorta annoys my supervisor (whos in the same office) :( The noise is pretty loud though?

Or any DIY job for insulating headphones? :)

no music at work is killing me :(

Just get a cheap set of those in-ear earbud headphones. They leak almost no noise, and are pretty cheap.

jvwgtr 12-11-2003 08:25 AM

I find that I also get a lot more out of the music when I listen with (even my cheapo) headphones.

Has anybody tried out these 5.1 surround sound headphones from Zalman ?

They look interesting (especially for gameplay) but lack some bass, from what I understand.

NeverBorn 12-11-2003 07:21 PM

I actually perfer headphones

CS733t 12-11-2003 07:58 PM

I used to use headphones all the time to be courteous to my roomates...now I use only my speakers, and turn it down if need be.

If I really wanna zone out from everything else and just listen to music then I'll pop on the headphones. It definetly puts you deeper into the music.

One annoying thing I didn't like about using headphones on the computer, is that the darn audible alerts (like on AIM) would deafen me and sometimes scare the crap outta me.

Sleepyjack 12-11-2003 08:21 PM

Quote:

sailor420 said
Just get a cheap set of those in-ear earbud headphones. They leak almost no noise, and are pretty cheap.
:hmm: i was sitting behind this guy on the bus today, who had those ear bud ones, and i could here what he was listening too? ....Linkin Park :eek: :hmm:

maybe i should bring a beanie in and just put that over, lol. With the air/con on all the time, i am not used to it so it gets pretty cold

31Friction 12-11-2003 11:57 PM

Re: Headphones vs other listening device
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepyjack

I just have some standard headphones nothing spiffy, but it seems when the music is 'pumped' right into your ears you can actually hear and appreciate more about the music?
Some music is elaboratley layered and complex and i found that when i had headphones on, i heard different and new things about some songs. Namely different backings, lost harmonies, subtle bass tones and other random/background noise/sound.
Anyway i thought it was really cool.

This is definately normal, I would SERIOUSLY suggest in investing in a quality pair of headphones. Sennheiser makes very nice ones. I use Sony MDR-700's. They arent *the* best but I DJ at loud clubs/events fairly often so I need the pushing power/durability they come with. I take my audio as seriously as my budget will possibly allow me to. And really I find it worth every penny...

jwoody 12-12-2003 06:40 AM

Another Sennheisser fan here. I've had countless headphones in the past and the Sennheissers are by far the best value for money out there.

My advice would be to get a pair that cover your ears rather than ones that sit on or in the ears. Sit-on can get really uncomfortable after a while, and the sit in type are also uncomfortable with added bonus of being a breeding ground for bacteria.

The.Lunatic 12-12-2003 10:38 PM

phones are nice, but speakers are nice too. If for some reason i really want to apreciate a song or something like that i'll use my seinheizeer hd 590's those are some nice headphones, but usually just i pump it from my stero that way if i go to the bath room or something i don' thave to hear my roomates sexing it.


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