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Sleepyjack 11-01-2003 09:38 PM

Remixes should be illegal.
 
Has anyone ever heard a good remix?

Cause i haven't. They seem to butcher songs terribly and only seemingly put loops and repeats in. I am not too sure about remixes of other already electronic songs, but if someone remixes a pure rock or just guitar based song it fucks it up really bad, and these people should be put in jail (i am exaggerating for effect, not being serious).

For an analogy, it's like me letting loose on the mona lisa with a pencil or marker and just scribbling shit everywhere.

I support covers of songs with some small variations or new sounds added, noramlly done by another band, but not so much all the additional loops and electronic shit. I don't really mind much techno or electronic music (i like aphex twin and others) so that's not really the issue.

Maybe i've just had a few bad exeperiences with remixes :p

BigGov 11-02-2003 12:46 AM

There are some good rap remixes, so yes, I have heard some good ones.

Loup 11-02-2003 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jimmy4
There are some good rap remixes, so yes, I have heard some good ones.
Agreed.
Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepyjack
For an analogy, it's like me letting loose on the mona lisa with a pencil or marker and just scribbling shit everywhere.

Music is not meant to be liked by everyone out there - it's all about personal tastes and moods. Same as your analogy: it sounds as if you would care if someone scribbled on the Mona Lisa; personally I wouldn't care. Everyone has differnet opinions on what they enjoy and if you don't like something in general, you don't have to listen to it.

fishin 11-02-2003 06:11 AM

i personally think the freak on a leash remix actually sounds better than the original. but the vast majority, as you say, stinks.

fishin 11-02-2003 06:11 AM

actually the why cant i be you? (cure) remix is cool too

Derwood 11-02-2003 06:18 AM

http://www.zumbacombo.com/duchamp/im...orks/lhooq.jpg


Marcel DuChamp apparently was 80 years ahead of you with your remix theory

Magpie0001 11-02-2003 08:20 AM

I totally disagree with you. There may be heffloads of terrible remixes out there, but I think that has more to do with the shitmess of the music industry rather than the popularisation of remixing.

Gortexfogg 11-02-2003 09:01 AM

I don't mind remixes, but I don't usually like them either. It's the artist's choice to do what ever they want with there song. Sometimes remixing isn't always about totally rearranging the song, but they'll change levels and such to make a song sound better than the original recording.

Arc101 11-02-2003 09:05 AM

The remixes I hate are the ones where all they have done is added a drum machine to the original and got some god awful singer to sing it again. I'm actually trying to think of a good remix and I can't think of one at the moment, but I can think of quite a few songs which have been destroyed by some idiot who thinks he can do a better job.

IC3 11-02-2003 10:48 AM

I have heard some good remixes and some shitty ones.

There is always somebody outhere who likes them and some who don't.

Most remixes i hear are Jungle tracks...I have been dissapointed a few times, But I usually like what i hear.

phukraut 11-02-2003 12:58 PM

there's some nice remixes on some of the NIN singles.

Halx 11-02-2003 01:21 PM

Get into some Industrial. Remixes in that genre are amazingly skillful.

copymachineboy 11-02-2003 01:26 PM

All depends on the remix.

There a shitload of crappy Top40 to house or breaks remixes.

A lot of the time with remixes, they're just trying to squeeze as much out of the song as they can.

One thing I do hate though, is songs that are 'remixes' but sound nothing like the original. Not even the same hook or lyrics. Might as well be its own damn song....

Moskie 11-02-2003 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
Get into some Industrial. Remixes in that genre are amazingly skillful.
Beat me to it :) ... Remixes and covers are really important to the genre, and I usually see them as a way for bands to show respect to other bands that influence them.

Fearless_Hyena 11-02-2003 01:36 PM

same goes with reggae!! remixes are crucial to reggae music. some of the best remixers around...

Shauk 11-02-2003 02:47 PM

most of all the coldplay - clocks (or clox as some remixers have renamed it) are really good.

gwr_gwir 11-02-2003 03:31 PM

There are some good remixes out there, just not many. lately, I heard a really good rock remix of "Paint it Black" (remixer unknown to me). that, and there's a bunch of good video game techno remixes on http://www.ocremix.org/index.php if you take the time to check through them.

carpal 11-02-2003 05:31 PM

There've been some jazz remixes that I've enjoyed, but much of the time it sees like they're done for the sake of the artist and not the music. An Autechre remix of a Tortoise song sounds to good to be true, until you actually hear it.

31Friction 11-02-2003 06:11 PM

Nirvana -- Smells Like Teen Spirit (Adam Freeland Remix)
Mobb Deep -- Shook Ones (DJ Zinc Remix)

I like both of those and theres ALOT more really good ones out there...

Sunrise 11-02-2003 09:32 PM

I've heard remixes that are MUCH better than the original songs! So yes I have heard good remixes.

Redlemon 11-03-2003 06:22 AM

I think "Sunchyme" by Dario G was a brilliant sampled remix of "Life in a Northern Town " by Dream Academy. It only grabs a couple of bits, and creates an entirely new song out of it.

Kurl 11-03-2003 07:01 AM

I hate remixes. They usually totally suck ass. But is it because we are just used to the song a particular way? i dont know. But I think that if the 'remix' were to be the original, that the song wouldn't have been a hit. hehe

wannabenakid247 11-05-2003 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sunrise
I've heard remixes that are MUCH better than the original songs! So yes I have heard good remixes.
I totally agree :thumbsup: to remixes!

KWSN 11-05-2003 05:35 PM

Snapcase released a new cd the other day with several remixes from their End Transmission album on it. They were all absolutely INCREDIBLE.

Remixes can be great if done correctly. Certain bands fuck them up and give them a bad reputation though *COUGH*BUSH*SPUTTER*LINKINPARK*COUGH*

RemyLebeau97 11-05-2003 09:26 PM

If this is true then P Diddy should be inprisoned for life.

clydestinkybeef 11-05-2003 09:35 PM

Nine Inch Nails remixes have never been bad.

Jasmar 11-09-2003 06:39 AM

I liked the remix to ignition by Rkelly alot better then I liked ignition

Derwood 11-09-2003 06:55 AM

Does anyone know the DJ who simply mixes two songs together? I heard the CD the other day but didn't catch who it was. Examples:

"Get Ur Freak On" sung over "Faith"
"The Real Slim Shady" sung over "Keep On Dancing"

It was awesome...who is this DJ?

Redlemon 11-09-2003 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Derwood
Does anyone know the DJ who simply mixes two songs together? I heard the CD the other day but didn't catch who it was. Examples:

"Get Ur Freak On" sung over "Faith"
"The Real Slim Shady" sung over "Keep On Dancing"

It was awesome...who is this DJ?

These are called "mash-ups". There are lots of people who do that, I had a couple of bookmarks but I deleted them 'cause I didn't find them to be too interesting (just my opinion).

I do recall "DJ Pantshead" being one of the artists, if that helps.

Derwood 11-09-2003 12:48 PM

cool. This seemed to be a store bought CD, not a collection of downloaded tracks....

Redlemon 11-10-2003 06:46 AM

Correction: still have some mash-ups bookmarks on my other computer:

http://4trak.net/dsico/
http://boomselection.net/

VitaminH 11-10-2003 10:00 AM

Puff Daddy's remix of one of my favorite zepplin songs (Kashmir) made me sick to my stomach. I remember sitting at home at my parents computer with SNL on(I was in HS at the time...) and hearing that come on...ugh.

jwoody 11-13-2003 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Derwood
Does anyone know the DJ who simply mixes two songs together? I heard the CD the other day but didn't catch who it was. Examples:

"Get Ur Freak On" sung over "Faith"
"The Real Slim Shady" sung over "Keep On Dancing"

It was awesome...who is this DJ?

Those two were mixed by DJ Yoda. He has three albums out of similar stuff: 'How to Cut & Paste' Vol. 1 & 2 and 'Unthugged'.

h2ogo69 11-13-2003 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clydestinkybeef
Nine Inch Nails remixes have never been bad.
i was just about to say that... that goes along wiht what hal said about the industrial scene

Derwood 11-13-2003 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VitaminH
Puff Daddy's remix of one of my favorite zepplin songs (Kashmir) made me sick to my stomach. I remember sitting at home at my parents computer with SNL on(I was in HS at the time...) and hearing that come on...ugh.
That wasn't a remix, it was a sample. Big difference.

Redlemon 11-14-2003 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by clydestinkybeef
Nine Inch Nails remixes have never been bad.
Do you mean remixes "by NIN' or "of NIN"? 'Cause I was collecting every cover and remix I could find of "Closer", and let me tell you, there were some HORRIBLE remixes out there. Lots of really good ones, as well.

Sleepyjack 11-14-2003 12:04 PM

Quote:

Derwood said
That wasn't a remix, it was a sample. Big difference.
What's the difference?

I though that may hvae been a cover or something anyway, the puff daddy thing of Kashmir. Although, yeah, i thought it was pretty shit.

I also heard some busta ryhmes and janet jackson today (old 1999) when i was watching a documentary/program on the creation of film clips. I can't remeber the song, but it "seemed" to borrow some of the cool samples or wahtever they're called from Aphex Twin's windowlicker song. Now, that's a creepy film clip :eek:

Tiser 11-14-2003 12:53 PM

Go industrial remixes. You get to hear the layering of the original tracks better, get a new take on an already electronic track.

Its interesting to look at tracks as evolutionary pieces, with multiple components that can be arranged differently, as apposed to a static song.

hahaha 11-16-2003 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
Get into some Industrial. Remixes in that genre are amazingly skillful.
Halx makes a good point. Theres a remix of elenor rigby by godhead that is very good, not to par with the Beatles though.

actual 11-18-2003 05:22 AM

Industrial remixes/covers are generally quite superior to pop/techno/rock mixes. It's just a fact. Mindless Self Indulgence (while I'm not sure what 'genre' they encompass) did a mix of Here To Stay that I enjoyed immensely, while I normally can't tolerate KoRn at all. It was good, now I appreciate both MSI and KoRn more than I did before.

EBM also has some good remixes... check out Front 242 mixing Like A Prayer, or any number of similar mixes by VNV Nation, Funker Vogt, etc.


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