Britney Spears: Sometimes It's Hard to Be a Woman ( Rolling Stone ) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Mind_Storm · 09-29-2003, 03:40 PM

http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=1957

Sometimes It's Hard to Be a Woman

After a rough year, Britney is ready to have fun again

By Mark Binelli

Two pairs of lips, a little tongue. Nothing odd for cable television, even if it was two women. Still, when Britney Spears kissed Madonna on the MTV Video Music Awards -- a lip lock that seemed designed to prove that both women were still capable of causing a sensation -- it became headline news. "Tonsil hockey," leered the New York Daily News. "Booty bouncing," seconded the New York Post. "Sorry," said the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which had to apologize after outraged readers objected to a Page One photo of the kiss. Even CNN's Crossfire got into the act, featuring Spears one-on-one with Tucker Carlson -- a bow-tie-wearing conservative better known for sparring with the likes of Hillary Clinton. Spears said that, no, she'd never kissed a woman before, and, yes, maybe she would again, if it was Madonna. She also revealed that the kiss had been rehearsed, and all involved had agreed to see how it felt in the moment. Though she denies it, even more was rehearsed: Madonna playfully slapping Spears' ass -- a moment that didn't make it on the air.
"I flew to London from New York, and I couldn't believe it was all over the papers there," says Spears. "It's crazy and it's bizarre, but it's also kind of amazing." And it's the first step in launching Spears' return after a year's layoff, a prelude to an appearance on the football-season pre-show NFL Kickoff Live, just a week later, and the upcoming release of a new single and video. The question that remains for Spears is, do people still care about the music? Or is she becoming more famous for stunts like this?

"I'm not gonna come out on this record and show my crotch or anything," she says. "That's not me. I would never do anything like that. It's all in the way you do stuff, all in the way you carry things. The music is most important to me."

Still, it's undeniable that, as the former Mouseketeer has inched past the age of consent, she's had a much bumpier career ride. Her last album, Britney, sold 4 million copies -- not a flop, by any means, but considered a disappointment when compared with her previous two albums, which sold a combined 22 million copies. Then came her feature-film debut, Crossroads, which was mostly ignored by her fans and widely reviled by critics. In August 2002, Spears announced a hiatus.

"Why the hell did I say that?" she asks today. "That was so fucking stupid. But honestly? I thought I could chill out for a while and be a normal person."

Unfortunately for Spears, her break proved neither normal nor especially chill. She suffered the highest-profile of breakups with her longtime boyfriend, Justin Timberlake, who implied she cheated on him, cast a Britney look-alike in his "Cry Me a River" video and crudely spoke about their sex life in a radio interview. Spears' New York restaurant, Nyla, closed after seven months, in the wake of a slew of bad press and health-code violations. Meanwhile, stories circulated about Spears the party girl. Star magazine alleged that she snorted cocaine in a nightclub. Spears denied the story through a representative, though she later told Star, "Let's just say you reach a point in your life when you are curious." Perhaps the low point came when Fred Durst appeared on the Howard Stern Show to share an extremely graphic kiss-and-tell, including descriptions of Spears' pubic hair. The mental image of the balding, goateed Limp Bizkit singer getting it on with America's jailbait sweetheart was, with the possible exception of those death photos of Uday and Qusay Hussein, easily the year's most disturbing.

Much rides, then, on the reception of the new album, which all those involved seem to be positioning as a more adult affair. "I'd describe it as trance-y," Spears says, "kind of a vibe record -- something you could listen to that's not so song-structured." Though Spears cites Gwen Stefani as a major influence, a closer template would be Madonna's Erotica, with Spears' vocal style having evolved into what might be best described as "slowly approaching orgasm." The techno and hip-hop beats are provided by Moby, RedZone and R. Kelly.

There's also a track by the Matrix, "Shadow," that sounds like a mid-Nineties Aerosmith ballad, but the Kelly track, "Outrageous," typifies the formula: beat-heavy, melodic, with Spears whisper-singing things such as "my sex drive" and "my shopping spree." Here are some other sample lyrics:

"Oh, it's so hot, and I need some air/And, boy, don't stop, 'cause I'm halfway there. . . ."

"Would you undo my zipper, please? . . .

"I see your body rise, rise. . . ."

"I find myself flirting with the verge of obscene."

"Of course, I'm not doing '. . . Baby One More Time' and those big, massive hits anymore," Spears says. "I think this record is where I'm at right now in my life. It's sensual, it's sexual." She laughs. "I'm probably writing about that subconsciously because I don't have that right now."

(Excerpted from RS 932, October 2, 2003)

brandon11983 · 09-29-2003, 04:03 PM

Just take your damn clothes off, already!!

Esoteric · 09-29-2003, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by brandon11983
Just take your damn clothes off, already!!

Seriously.

K-Wise · 09-29-2003, 06:40 PM

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The question that remains for Spears is, do people still care about the music?

When did they ever care? She can't sing for shit....she couldn't even sing Like A Virgin well. How pathetic is that?

Asta!!

CyN1caL · 09-29-2003, 08:46 PM

God she is a hottie.

chavos · 09-29-2003, 08:51 PM

i just love how kind they are to her on the cover...all the airbrushing, and then they go ahead and all but beat her to a bloody pulp in the interview. it's pretty sad really...

Mr.Deflok · 09-30-2003, 12:39 AM

Repost!

Vilkata · 09-30-2003, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Britney Spears
"I'm not gonna come out on this record and show my crotch or anything," she says. "That's not me. I would never do anything like that."

And thus, my tears began to flow

Troublebot · 09-30-2003, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Mind_Storm
"I'm not gonna come out on this record and show my crotch or anything," she says. "That's not me. I would never do anything like that. It's all in the way you do stuff, all in the way you carry things. The music is most important to me."

"However, I will wear nothing but a pair of white cotton panties on the cover of Rolling Stone."

Will someone please remind me what the difference is between her and Xtina?

Speed_Gibson · 09-30-2003, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Troublebot
"However, I will wear nothing but a pair of white cotton panties on the cover of Rolling Stone."

Will someone please remind me what the difference is between her and Xtina?

Christina can actually carry a tune and do a live show without lip synching?

dylanmarsh · 10-01-2003, 12:00 AM

"Oh no, Mom, I'm just gonna sit here for a while and admire the wallpaper."

"Yes, I'm fine. I just love wallpaper so much I have to hunch over in pain."

Christ. Is there anything hotter than Brittney?

Vilkata · 10-01-2003, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by Troublebot
"However, I will wear nothing but a pair of white cotton panties on the cover of Rolling Stone."

Will someone please remind me what the difference is between her and Xtina?

Britney is about 100x hotter then Christina.

Not saying Christina isn't beautiful, just stating that Britney > Christina.

Troublebot · 10-01-2003, 05:08 AM

True, Britney is a true pop production. In fact, I'll make a wager we eventually find out shes a robot. The jailbait 2000 with optional vocal enhancement attachment.

Xtina has the pipes. Too bad all she wants to do is show off the bod. Well, maybe not too bad...

quadro2000 · 10-01-2003, 05:38 AM

The most interesting thing about Britney is that she is less of a person and more of an image created by media conglomerates.

H12 · 10-16-2003, 01:51 PM

...Excuse me, what? Sorry, I was busy staring at my copy of that Rolling Stones magazine's cover.

ghezzo · 10-16-2003, 02:07 PM

quadro2000 said it best

Chingal0 · 10-16-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by brandon11983
Just take your damn clothes off, already!!

I couldnt agree more..

09-29-2003, 03:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mind_Storm Tilted Location: The Finger Lakes of New York	Britney Spears: Sometimes It's Hard to Be a Woman ( Rolling Stone ) http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=1957 Sometimes It's Hard to Be a Woman After a rough year, Britney is ready to have fun again By Mark Binelli Two pairs of lips, a little tongue. Nothing odd for cable television, even if it was two women. Still, when Britney Spears kissed Madonna on the MTV Video Music Awards -- a lip lock that seemed designed to prove that both women were still capable of causing a sensation -- it became headline news. "Tonsil hockey," leered the New York Daily News. "Booty bouncing," seconded the New York Post. "Sorry," said the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which had to apologize after outraged readers objected to a Page One photo of the kiss. Even CNN's Crossfire got into the act, featuring Spears one-on-one with Tucker Carlson -- a bow-tie-wearing conservative better known for sparring with the likes of Hillary Clinton. Spears said that, no, she'd never kissed a woman before, and, yes, maybe she would again, if it was Madonna. She also revealed that the kiss had been rehearsed, and all involved had agreed to see how it felt in the moment. Though she denies it, even more was rehearsed: Madonna playfully slapping Spears' ass -- a moment that didn't make it on the air. "I flew to London from New York, and I couldn't believe it was all over the papers there," says Spears. "It's crazy and it's bizarre, but it's also kind of amazing." And it's the first step in launching Spears' return after a year's layoff, a prelude to an appearance on the football-season pre-show NFL Kickoff Live, just a week later, and the upcoming release of a new single and video. The question that remains for Spears is, do people still care about the music? Or is she becoming more famous for stunts like this? "I'm not gonna come out on this record and show my crotch or anything," she says. "That's not me. I would never do anything like that. It's all in the way you do stuff, all in the way you carry things. The music is most important to me." Still, it's undeniable that, as the former Mouseketeer has inched past the age of consent, she's had a much bumpier career ride. Her last album, Britney, sold 4 million copies -- not a flop, by any means, but considered a disappointment when compared with her previous two albums, which sold a combined 22 million copies. Then came her feature-film debut, Crossroads, which was mostly ignored by her fans and widely reviled by critics. In August 2002, Spears announced a hiatus. "Why the hell did I say that?" she asks today. "That was so fucking stupid. But honestly? I thought I could chill out for a while and be a normal person." Unfortunately for Spears, her break proved neither normal nor especially chill. She suffered the highest-profile of breakups with her longtime boyfriend, Justin Timberlake, who implied she cheated on him, cast a Britney look-alike in his "Cry Me a River" video and crudely spoke about their sex life in a radio interview. Spears' New York restaurant, Nyla, closed after seven months, in the wake of a slew of bad press and health-code violations. Meanwhile, stories circulated about Spears the party girl. Star magazine alleged that she snorted cocaine in a nightclub. Spears denied the story through a representative, though she later told Star, "Let's just say you reach a point in your life when you are curious." Perhaps the low point came when Fred Durst appeared on the Howard Stern Show to share an extremely graphic kiss-and-tell, including descriptions of Spears' pubic hair. The mental image of the balding, goateed Limp Bizkit singer getting it on with America's jailbait sweetheart was, with the possible exception of those death photos of Uday and Qusay Hussein, easily the year's most disturbing. Much rides, then, on the reception of the new album, which all those involved seem to be positioning as a more adult affair. "I'd describe it as trance-y," Spears says, "kind of a vibe record -- something you could listen to that's not so song-structured." Though Spears cites Gwen Stefani as a major influence, a closer template would be Madonna's Erotica, with Spears' vocal style having evolved into what might be best described as "slowly approaching orgasm." The techno and hip-hop beats are provided by Moby, RedZone and R. Kelly. There's also a track by the Matrix, "Shadow," that sounds like a mid-Nineties Aerosmith ballad, but the Kelly track, "Outrageous," typifies the formula: beat-heavy, melodic, with Spears whisper-singing things such as "my sex drive" and "my shopping spree." Here are some other sample lyrics: "Oh, it's so hot, and I need some air/And, boy, don't stop, 'cause I'm halfway there. . . ." "Would you undo my zipper, please? . . . "I see your body rise, rise. . . ." "I find myself flirting with the verge of obscene." "Of course, I'm not doing '. . . Baby One More Time' and those big, massive hits anymore," Spears says. "I think this record is where I'm at right now in my life. It's sensual, it's sexual." She laughs. "I'm probably writing about that subconsciously because I don't have that right now." (Excerpted from RS 932, October 2, 2003)

09-29-2003, 04:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
brandon11983 Stereophonic Location: Chitown!!	Just take your damn clothes off, already!! __________________ Well behaved women rarely make history.

10-01-2003, 05:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Troublebot Intently Rocking Location: Davey's	True, Britney is a true pop production. In fact, I'll make a wager we eventually find out shes a robot. The jailbait 2000 with optional vocal enhancement attachment. Xtina has the pipes. Too bad all she wants to do is show off the bod. Well, maybe not too bad... __________________ Howard Moon: The wind is my only friend. Wind: [whistling] I hate you.

10-01-2003, 05:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
quadro2000 All Possibility, Made Of Custard Location: New York, NY	The most interesting thing about Britney is that she is less of a person and more of an image created by media conglomerates. __________________ You have to laugh at yourself...because you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't. - Emily Saliers

10-16-2003, 01:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
H12 I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning! Location: K-Town, TN	...Excuse me, what? Sorry, I was busy staring at my copy of that Rolling Stones magazine's cover. __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit." --Aristotle

09-29-2003, 08:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
CyN1caL Crazy	God she is a hottie.

09-29-2003, 08:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
chavos Banned Location: St. Paul, MN	i just love how kind they are to her on the cover...all the airbrushing, and then they go ahead and all but beat her to a bloody pulp in the interview. it's pretty sad really...

09-30-2003, 12:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Repost!

10-01-2003, 12:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
dylanmarsh Sleepy Head	"Oh no, Mom, I'm just gonna sit here for a while and admire the wallpaper." "Yes, I'm fine. I just love wallpaper so much I have to hunch over in pain." Christ. Is there anything hotter than Brittney?

10-16-2003, 02:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
ghezzo Loser Location: kirby block	quadro2000 said it best