Chris Brown
 

Presumably even if this guy doesnt do time, his career is 100% over now.

Which is fair enough and if things are what the seem to be not the least of what he deserves.... but he should be entitled to a fair trial and face the judgment that is handed down from that. Already Jay Z is leaking death threats to him into the press.

Is it really acceptable that this level of reporting is allowed before a (probably) court case?

In the UK it wouldnt be and details of the alleged crime would not be published in the media until after the case is heard (as as not to prejudice the case)... freedom of information is important but I think this is another time when there are sensible reasons to limit it at least in the short term.

I saw the leaked pic and if Brown did that shit.. I hope he gets his fair turn of play soon..

don't be so quick on the career over thing.. we've seen people charged with child rape (R. Kelley) and people charged with shootings, drugs etc etc etc go on to a lengthy career.

So really, all he has to do is keep his PR low for a little while then come back out with some hit that features a squeeky clean star and he'll be right back where he is/was.

I think much of this is gossip and has been blown well out of proportion - I wouldn't even begin to post some of things I've read and heard about this entire fiasco but I doubt much of the truth of the matter has come to light.

In any case - there's nothing wrong with poking a little fun at it all:

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And I'm pretty sure his career is far from done. The squeaky clean guy always ends up a bit dirty and everyone loves a comeback story. Not to mention the fact that his fan base consists mostly of rabid 14 year olds.

R Kelly is maybe comparable.

But shootings and drug charges can often give people more credibility. People seem to respect Shyne more now than they did before for example...

And to be honest, yeah - if he did beat up Rihanna as seems to be the case, then he should get at least 5 or 6 years worth of grey days: and serve the whole fucking lot too, no parole or serving half of it on license. And I'm sure Jay Z or someone from the record company can afford to pay someone in jail to give him a taste of his own medicine also.

i thought this sort of thing was accepted in the rap community.

at least that what i get from a good deal of the lyrics.

Yup.

They'll use this as a marketing ploy to sell the newest line of bruising make-up from l'oreal.

You know, look like your boyfriend just beat the holy hell out of you, just like Rihanna!

The shelves at Walgreens will be empty.

I'm just waiting for his name to catch on as a catch phrase.

"I just Chris Browned that hoe!"

"He just Chris Browned the living hell out of that guy!"

i think ill Chris Brown my dick tonight.

Dont see that its much to joke about.

What type of rap do you listen to?
I've listened to a great deal of rap in my time, and while respecting a woman who represents herself as a hoe/slut/cum-bucket is not encouraged, never once have I felt beating/hitting a woman was.

yeah we could. i don't really want to debate it, i want to know what type of rap ssjtwizta is listening to, that's all.

My post was more in reference to the fact that none of this has anything to do with rap music - Chris Brown isn't a rapper. He sings pop music.

But ya know, it's all urban anyway.

I know you have a special aversion to woman beating but having your personal life made fun of is what being famous is all about.

thanks manic. was wondering when someone was going to mention that chris brown isnt a rapper. rap isnt sung only by black men.

SF, it seems strange that you think that a fit of rage can land someone in jail for 5-6 years. dont get me wrong, im totally against any form of domestic violence, but you seem to think that someone losing 5-6 years of their life for this is sufficient punishment. i totally disagree. thats almost 10% of someones full life span. lets be real here. rapists and murderers get away with less than that many times!

lets not crucify him because he's famous. and certainly not before his case is heard.

Pretty doubtful its the first time though. With people who beat up women it hardly ever is.

I dont pre judge him, but if he is guilty he is scum.

ha!
"its pretty doubtful its the first time though.....i dont prejudge him"

do you see the contradiction here? or is it just me?

i'd put it another way...

if he did beat his girlfriend up, he's scum.

yeah... I don't know how the whole rap thing came into this..

real hip-hop would never condone these actions, and as mentioned before..Chris Brown is about as pop as Craig David..so it's apples and oranges..

I've heard that Rhianna was crazy..so there's no telling what happened.. If it was just and argument..then..she didn't deserve it..but (and I'm not saying that anything would make it ok) until we hear both sides of the story there's really nothing to see here.

Domestic violence is not exclusive to hip hop (see: Turner, Ike; Minelli, Liza; and Myers, Brett)

Jay-Z isn't making death threats to Chris Brown. He's already had his troubles over being accused of stabbing a producer.

Chris Brown never had a career to begin with. He was only good for two or three albums before he gets passed on by some other baby-faced crooner. The music industry is littered with them.

LOL

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-+-{Important TFP Staff Message}-+- OK this thread has nothing to do with a certain genre of music. It's sole purpose is to discuss an incident that occurred between two music personnel. Let's keep the 'rap is crap' crap for another thread that can honestly debate the sides of it and not in this thread.

I thought his man stabbed Un and made him take the blame?? ;)

But anyway, there were leaks that Jay Z decribed Chris Brown as a "walking dead man"... I dont suppose he needs to do it himself to get something done like that.

Beating up a popular and adored (by some people anyway) r&b singer isnt exactly a good thing to do for your health in any case.

Nope, I have to agree with you there. I was told that he did not get arrested for hitting her in the first place, it had something to do with criminal threats. Did she file charges are something? And why does everyone think he beat her up? Is it possible someone else did? And if she's crazy, what if she did it to herself?

Right

Or maybe she walked into a door?

Fell down the stairs?

Did you see her face btw?

maybe he accidentally elbowed her in the head in singing practice in the shower... for all i care, he hasnt been found guilty of anything yet

when he does, ill bag the crap out of the &^%$#

Yes, he's innocent until proven guilty - but "she did it to herself"? Come on, you dont take seriously either do you?

haha!

actually no..but there are plenty of ways she could have got a black eye and a cut lip.

it doesnt necesarily involved black pop singer boyfriends

ha, no i was not taking myself seriously. just throwing out other options that came to mind. brown is not the only person that could have beat her up.

and no, i haven't seen any of the photos, maybe i'll google it.

I know that you're thinking about 'dirty ghetto style hood action' but another problem, is that CB and Rhianna's music is mostly accessed by suburban kids in parental driven households. That's a contributor to the big stink about this. Well, that and the whole beating his girlfriend bit...

Rihana has a following in Barbados as well doesnt she?

And I know she has done a track with Sizzla

Yes, she's actually from Barbados. I'm not sure when she came to the US, but I know she was in High School in Barbados in 2004, and her first album came out in 2005. Her first album had a lot of that 'Carribean flavor' to it, and then she kind of lost that as her next work came along.

I've seen the photo's..

she got beat and her face started to swella 'ella 'ella 'ella...

excuse the pun...but you forgot a beat

oh oh oh eh eh eh

WOW. that was just way too funny.

I think Chris Browns career is over because it is Rihanna. She's an up and coming artist and quite popular. If it was just some random lady, it might've added some creditability. He'll get his coming in due time but as celebrity jailbirds go, he'll serve little time.

it's not even the fact that his music career is over. He's lost all of his sponsorships as well. He really put himself away for good.

Looks like Rhianna will testify against him in court

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Singer Rihanna 'would testify'

Not exactly shocking.. but I'm surprised she didn't have a no contact order placed on him.. that helps the defense out quite a bit.

Well that and the various reports that they're back together. Rhianna is quite famous but so is he. And while he may have lost many of his endorsements, between the music, movies and concerts - he generates far too much cash to be allowed to fade away.

I don't think many of the people on this forum realize how famous he is.

They may not.. I'm guessing it's because there probably isn't a huge pop following on here. I guess the old saying that Cash is King really rings true.

False. I'll go ahead and take this minute to remind everyone about a man named R. Kelly. I mean, the dude pee'd all over a girl, and people still LOVE him. :orly: