a Trance mix (willravel, come on dooooowwwn) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 01:47 AM

<a href="http://www.shauk.info/Shauk - 11108.mp3">clicky</a>

get back to me if ya like it or need a track name.

Hain · 01-12-2008, 05:09 AM

Yours!?
Considered joining ArtistServer?
Title?
Come with a CUE sheet?

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 09:38 AM

yes, no, I don't name my mixes unless I plan on making it into a cd, no.

Hain · 01-12-2008, 09:40 AM

Awesome.
Damn.
OK.
Damn.

Good stuff.

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 10:24 AM

Tracklisting:Time/Artist/Title

00:00-08:45 Pole Folder - In My Mind
08:45-09:54 Transition (DJing 101 sez: the track above and the track below are playing at the same time)
09:54-16:13 Oliver Moldan & Jerome Isma-Ae - James Dean Cool (Elegant Universe Remix)
16:13-16:51 Transition
16:51-22:36 Cosmic Gate - Should have known (Wippenberg Remix)
22:36-24:35 Transition
24:35-30:19 Stimulator - We Rise (Georgia Dub)
30:19-31:46 Transition
31:46-36:20 Duderstadt - Beatitude ft. Kirsty Hawkshaw (Duderstadt Uplifting Mash Up)
36:20-37:31 Transition
37:31-44:19 Ernesto v Bastian - Dark Side of the Moon (Dogzilla's Dark Dub)
44:19-60-70 = woulda been a cd, but I was tired and went to bed instead.

Hain · 01-12-2008, 11:05 AM

Here's a cue sheet of that, useful for various purposes.

cue sheet click to show

File Hashes of Shauk - 11108.mp3 click to show

Cynthetiq · 01-12-2008, 11:09 AM

not my kind of music but I did listen to the whole thing...

sounded good.

Plan9 · 01-12-2008, 11:32 AM

I like this. Good job, bro.

I wanna rub it on my smooth spot.

Also: It's funny you used Will's name in the thread title and he somehow hasn't seen it... or at least commented.

Willravel · 01-12-2008, 12:03 PM

In My Mind - WHOA! The drums/fx are all over the place, and it really works. It's an innovative way to break up monotony (and trance can often be somewhat monotonous).
James Dean Cool - I'll admit that this song didn't remind me of James Dean, but at 13:53 it really hit a good stride. I almost found myself wising it had less percussion (though that's where my tastes in trance lie: I love trance that's really melodic and lighter on percussion).
Should Have Known- Is that you singing? Just kidding. At 20:30 this thing changes pace and I really think the crescendo was perfect. So often in electronica the crescendo is misused, and I wish more people would use it more like you did. It takes patience and an already well developed melody along with something that's a lot different preceding it. I have to admit that I loved the transition at the end of this piece.
We Wise - I like this one a lot. It's thick in the beginning, like trance gravy, and then it gets REALLY melodic with the use of electronic orchestration. Creating a contrast like that really gives the piece a good flavor, like when you combine sweet and savory in cooking. Why all the food references? I'm hungry.
Beautide - This seems more like traditional house/trance. I also think it's the best piece in the mix because it's well developed and has all around quality. You still remind me, stylistically, of Gabriel and Dresden. If you ever get the opportunity, you should work with them on a mix. I had a friend introduce us a few years ago when the "Perfect Lie" mix they had was really big and they really know their shit. If they thought my stuff was promising, they'd love yours.
Dark Side of the Moon - I dunno about the guitar in this one. Maybe I'm just a purest, but somehow guitar and trance are a tough combination.

All around great mix. Throw in something else, and you'd have a great album.

Hain · 01-12-2008, 12:37 PM

The perfect lie is amazing in my opinion. I can listen to that and really just feel terrible temptation in that voice. Perfectly used in Nip/Tuck (an OK soundtrack, starts off GREAT but then becomes... nothing of interest).

I bet you have heard their chillout mix of As the Rush Comes by Motorcycle- greatest song ever. If I recall correctly, Motorcycle was a collaboration between Gabriel, Dresden, and Jes. Jes is by far one of my favorite female vocalists for trance music. Fell in love with that voice from Tiesto's In Search of Sunrise vol 3. ...

Ah the music.

And I still think you should join artist server, if you can with mixes of other artists songs. Damn good stuff.

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 12:53 PM

I'm glad you guys like it, thanks for the comments

i feel like a challenge so if you guys have some particular tracks you want to hear mixed up, let me know

fair warning, i'm slow

I am a pretty big fan of G&D and I actually have "as the rush comes" on vinyl by Motorcycle (which is just G&D with a vocalist)

I like the chunk in my basslines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augi

Here's a cue sheet of that, useful for various purposes.

cue sheet click to show

so do you have something to generate that? I know it comes in handy for burning cd's and so on but I've never made one, I usually just had to edit the track number/time index myself in nero or whatever.

Hain · 01-12-2008, 02:10 PM

I did it by hand because I wasn't feeling like an engineer: spend three times the time it would normally take learning a clever way of doing it so I don't have to do as much work next time.

Some applications I know have these features, again I don't know how to work them, FooBar2000 (requires 3rd party plugins), CUE Tools... plenty more at Hydrogen Audio.

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 05:36 PM

will I just wanted to revist and thank you for your attention to detail in your review. It's refreshing to get a track by track analysis from a detail oriented listener. Nothing like an in depth review into your track selection to make you realize what makes good things good and bad things bad.

I thank you for your effort.

Willravel · 01-12-2008, 05:41 PM

Not a problem. I don't get to do this with Tiesto or Oakenfold, so it's a treat.

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

I had a friend introduce us a few years ago when the "Perfect Lie" mix they had was really big and they really know their shit. If they thought my stuff was promising, they'd love yours

Curious, by "your stuff" what did you mean? a mix? or original composition?

I still haven't heard anything from you so I just twiddle my thumbs and can't even imagine what to compare myself to stylistically in that regard.

Willravel · 01-12-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauk

Curious, by "your stuff" what did you mean? a mix? or original composition?

I still haven't heard anything from you so I just twiddle my thumbs and can't even imagine what to compare myself to stylistically in that regard.

Original stuff. I had Logic on my iMac back in 2000-2001, and 30 GB of music was deleted when my dad took my computer and sold it while I was visiting friends out of town. I managed to save maybe 3 pieces, and one of those was on the disc I had with me when I was in San Francisco.

My style is melodic, orchestral trance with elements of jazz and romantic period music. Think DJ Sasha meets someone who thinks that he's a classical composer.

Shauk · 01-12-2008, 07:47 PM

ach, yeah my original pieces aren't nearly as polished as what I put together in mixes. I tried messing around with Sonar, which is supposedly the PC equivalent of Logic.
I seriously have never felt so lost in my life.

Edit: I am trying out messing around with cubase now. again, I feel lost.

seems like if I can make heads or tails of reason (which btw... they just patched to 4.01 to support my midi controller) I'd be able to use anything but that's not the case.

Quote:

Remote

* Added Remote support for:
* Akai MPD24
* Akai MPD32
* Akai MPK49
* Edirol PCR-300/500/800
* Frontier Design Group Alpha Track
* Line 6 KB37
* M-audio ProjectMix I/O
* M-audio Axiom 25/49/61 <--- YAY
* M-audio Oxygen 8 v2
* Fixed a performance problem with the Remote Override "learn" feature.

but yeah I still haven't ventured into the realm of VSTi's or external sequencing yet :\

Shauk · 01-25-2008, 11:36 AM

Hain · 01-25-2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauk

bump

/gasps/ YOU MONSTER! HOW COULD YOU?!

I thought the automated double post merger algorithm was supposed to prevent this

Anyways, did you ever figure out a way to make CUE sheets efficiently?

Shauk · 01-25-2008, 01:22 PM

I hax.

but nah I haven't made any cue sheets anyway so.. Although, I'm thinking it may be time to re-do this mix and extend it a bit to a full 60-70 minutes and make a batch of professional looking cd's to hand out at work or something

I feel like using as a fun lil social gig. Probably going to wait until May or so. I'm still working on a website 1st

Jadedfox · 01-28-2008, 04:33 AM

I love Pole Folder so any mix including a track by them is worth listening to!

--jaded

Hain · 01-28-2008, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauk

I hax.

but nah I haven't made any cue sheets anyway so.. Although, I'm thinking it may be time to re-do this mix and extend it a bit to a full 60-70 minutes and make a batch of professional looking cd's to hand out at work or something

I feel like using as a fun lil social gig. Probably going to wait until May or so. I'm still working on a website 1st

I'd be cautious "handing-out" CDs with the songs you have on there. I haven't kept up with the laws of distribution, but some artists and lawyers of artists are real sticklers against people handing out their media, even if it is remixed into a new songs.

Still, if you happen to find stuff on it, I'd welcome getting back in the know.

Shauk · 01-28-2008, 08:39 AM

huh, I don't really know what the legality of mix cd's are, but that tempts me to just avoid listing the track names entirely. The average Joe wouldn't know up from down if I just handed them a completley free unlabeled stream of music I mixed together.

but... yeah...

who does know the legality of this? Like I know if I go and play in a club, they are already paying like a general licensing fee just to be able to play music (and thats why you pay a cover) so you're covered by that as a DJ. I just don't know where the variables "mixed" and "free" and "promotional showcase of one's technical skill" enter when figuring out this law

vanblah · 01-28-2008, 10:36 AM

It is illegal to distribute any copyrighted material without the express written permission of the copyright holder(s). Sometimes, especially in the case of electronic or dance music, permission may be implied--but not always. Check the original CD or record for the fine print. You have to keep in mind that a lot of times the artist is not actually the copyright holder; so he or she may be totally cool with you using their stuff on your mixCD; but the publisher may not be happy with it at all. It's an unnecessarily complex waste of paperwork, but that's the way it is.

Even if it's a "demo" of your skills as a DJ it is still illegal unless otherwise stated by the original copyright holder.

Still, you're pretty much small potatoes in the grand scheme of things and since you're handing them out for free it's not like they'd do much but send a stern cease-and-desist. You can't get blood from a turnip.

Shauk · 01-28-2008, 03:22 PM

hey, i resemble that remark

but yeah these are tracks I purchased from beatport.com, they supply directly from the labels (and thus have the zone restrictions on some releases, like there is a new ferry corsten track that is only out in the UK now but on beatport and they wont let me add it to my cart, so I cannot purchase it which actually cost them money cuz I downloaded it anyway from an alternative source) >

I think the laws and practices of labels only serves to screw them over in the new "age" of music distrubution.

I dunno, I'll probably go ahead with doing what I plan on doing.

n0nsensical · 01-28-2008, 11:37 PM

Yeah it's "technically" illegal, but distributing free promo mixes is standard practice in the dance music industry. (not the kind of industry to be in if you're overly concerned with laws

) I wouldn't worry about it if you're not selling anything. These labels don't go around suing everybody. They're probably just happy for the publicity, and only the majors have the kind of cash to burn on lawyers anyway.

Shauk · 01-29-2008, 06:28 AM

yeah good point. These guys aren't exactly buddies with the RIAA, most of them are probably UK based anyway

n0nsensical · 02-02-2008, 04:55 PM

btw that Cosmic Gate track is really sick (love the addl work by Wippenberg). They are pretty much my favorite producers these days, though, for some reason I don't care much for their DJ sets Ive seen. They've just been hit machines for years, Exploration of Space, Analog Feel, Body of Conflict, lots of great remixes too.

some goodies
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Shauk · 04-25-2008, 07:27 PM

I decided this is due for a bump

stevie667 · 04-29-2008, 06:00 AM

I'm glad you did, the mix = awesome.

Now, if i can just get rid of the urge to go out and buy a few grams of MDMA and a duvet i'll be sorted.

01-12-2008, 01:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	a Trance mix (willravel, come on dooooowwwn) <a href="http://www.shauk.info/Shauk - 11108.mp3">clicky</a> get back to me if ya like it or need a track name.

01-12-2008, 05:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Yours!? Considered joining ArtistServer? Title? Come with a CUE sheet? __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\

01-12-2008, 09:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Awesome. Damn. OK. Damn. Good stuff. __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\

01-12-2008, 11:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	Here's a cue sheet of that, useful for various purposes. cue sheet click to show Code: REM GENRE Trance REM DATE 2008 REM COMMENT "Tilted" PERFORMER "Shauk" TITLE "11108" FILE "Shauk - 11108.mp3" MP3 TRACK 01 AUDIO TITLE "In My Mind" PERFORMER "Pole Folder" INDEX 01 00:00:00 TRACK 02 AUDIO TITLE "Transition" PERFORMER "Shauk" INDEX 01 08:45:00 TRACK 03 AUDIO TITLE "James Dean Cool (Elegant Universe Remix)" PERFORMER "Oliver Moldan & Jerome Isma-Ae" INDEX 01 09:54:00 TRACK 04 AUDIO TITLE "Transition" PERFORMER "Shauk" INDEX 01 16:13:00 TRACK 05 AUDIO TITLE "Should have known (Wippenberg Remix)" PERFORMER "Cosmic Gate" INDEX 01 16:51:00 TRACK 06 AUDIO TITLE "Transition" PERFORMER "Shauk" INDEX 01 22:36:00 TRACK 07 AUDIO TITLE "We Rise (Georgia Dub)" PERFORMER "Stimulator" INDEX 01 24:35:00 TRACK 08 AUDIO TITLE "Transition" PERFORMER "Shauk" INDEX 01 30:19:00 TRACK 09 AUDIO TITLE "Beatitude ft. Kirsty Hawkshaw (Duderstadt Uplifting Mash Up)" PERFORMER "Duderstadt" INDEX 01 31:46:00 TRACK 10 AUDIO TITLE "Transition" PERFORMER "Shauk" INDEX 01 36:20:00 TRACK 11 AUDIO TITLE "Dark Side of the Moon (Dogzilla's Dark Dub)" PERFORMER "Ernesto v Bastian" INDEX 01 37:31:00 File Hashes of Shauk - 11108.mp3 click to show <Shauk - 11108.mp3> Adler32 : 9D77331E CRC16 : 10ED CRC16.CCITT : F00B CRC16.XMODEM : 0405 CRC32 : 42260F7B CRC64 : 6326AA66 1931A64D ED2K : B580DA26 66FA5F9F 45CC2B84 57B96B3C ELF32 : 01056DEF FCS16 : 9C6D FCS32 : 42260F7B FNV32.1 : A9DE572A FNV64.1 : 1A557A73 B1E78DF7 GHash32.3 : DFBF71C1 GHash32.5 : DF9CE381 GOST-Hash : D8768B6A 5EF94C56 58F0224D 86914450 FB0B7A35 58EAF791 E0DDE6EF 49636DF1 HAVAL256.3 : B8CB676F EFE34222 C7624A0D FF33C50C FEB6DE58 712448C2 224A1E0E ACF1A60E HAVAL256.4 : 36D77B7E A34F89AC 530C6194 101775B4 87637121 06A09CFC CBA4546B 73108457 HAVAL256.5 : 810497D2 8A3DB8E2 F39E9232 88636B3A A9AFCA18 FC087761 3DC107FA 73757974 MD2 : 97E906DC 0DA61B0D 5616B52A 7D1C1D53 MD4 : 7DB7D3ED 2F6DD4F1 1645CB52 446296B7 MD5 : 1E2FFF05 F2934749 C11795A3 2C138E0B RipeMD128 : 19CD1779 4384A443 54918595 23B98495 RipeMD160 : 1C14CF80 F57549E5 8689A1DB BA6C9A60 942E766B SHA1 : CB0826BE 4C28F65A 99D38C73 62EF88EA 790D6466 SHA256 : B910EB59 75B0A394 54BA04AE DFE4E567 DAFF2C38 AF80D695 CB6479E8 53C1A248 SHA384 : 30CEABFE 2D4B4B02 C5A2EE9F 6872F2AC 2E3A7121 A50882A4 9DA7D663 DE5A7FB0 115AAE6A 3C3CAEB4 FDFFD327 C1676A65 SHA512 : D553DBC2 A39D955D CF870DE5 DE52462A 9AC680A7 2171840D 790D7038 E34B47A8 6381092C EBFA348E 50B5B770 C1629537 82996903 CB6D3EC2 66DE41F1 0E9BCDF6 Size64 : 00000000 0512C876 Tiger : EC12CC80 A4907428 50CC0D50 223D34AC 7EA7A14E D46C76D3 XUM32 : 8A500826 __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\ Last edited by Hain; 02-02-2008 at 01:24 AM..

01-12-2008, 11:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
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01-12-2008, 09:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	yes, no, I don't name my mixes unless I plan on making it into a cd, no.

01-12-2008, 10:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	Tracklisting:Time/Artist/Title 00:00-08:45 Pole Folder - In My Mind 08:45-09:54 Transition (DJing 101 sez: the track above and the track below are playing at the same time) 09:54-16:13 Oliver Moldan & Jerome Isma-Ae - James Dean Cool (Elegant Universe Remix) 16:13-16:51 Transition 16:51-22:36 Cosmic Gate - Should have known (Wippenberg Remix) 22:36-24:35 Transition 24:35-30:19 Stimulator - We Rise (Georgia Dub) 30:19-31:46 Transition 31:46-36:20 Duderstadt - Beatitude ft. Kirsty Hawkshaw (Duderstadt Uplifting Mash Up) 36:20-37:31 Transition 37:31-44:19 Ernesto v Bastian - Dark Side of the Moon (Dogzilla's Dark Dub) 44:19-60-70 = woulda been a cd, but I was tired and went to bed instead.

01-12-2008, 11:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	I like this. Good job, bro. I wanna rub it on my smooth spot. Also: It's funny you used Will's name in the thread title and he somehow hasn't seen it... or at least commented. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 01-12-2008 at 11:34 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-12-2008, 12:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	In My Mind - WHOA! The drums/fx are all over the place, and it really works. It's an innovative way to break up monotony (and trance can often be somewhat monotonous). James Dean Cool - I'll admit that this song didn't remind me of James Dean, but at 13:53 it really hit a good stride. I almost found myself wising it had less percussion (though that's where my tastes in trance lie: I love trance that's really melodic and lighter on percussion). Should Have Known- Is that you singing? Just kidding. At 20:30 this thing changes pace and I really think the crescendo was perfect. So often in electronica the crescendo is misused, and I wish more people would use it more like you did. It takes patience and an already well developed melody along with something that's a lot different preceding it. I have to admit that I loved the transition at the end of this piece. We Wise - I like this one a lot. It's thick in the beginning, like trance gravy, and then it gets REALLY melodic with the use of electronic orchestration. Creating a contrast like that really gives the piece a good flavor, like when you combine sweet and savory in cooking. Why all the food references? I'm hungry. Beautide - This seems more like traditional house/trance. I also think it's the best piece in the mix because it's well developed and has all around quality. You still remind me, stylistically, of Gabriel and Dresden. If you ever get the opportunity, you should work with them on a mix. I had a friend introduce us a few years ago when the "Perfect Lie" mix they had was really big and they really know their shit. If they thought my stuff was promising, they'd love yours. Dark Side of the Moon - I dunno about the guitar in this one. Maybe I'm just a purest, but somehow guitar and trance are a tough combination. All around great mix. Throw in something else, and you'd have a great album.

01-12-2008, 12:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	The perfect lie is amazing in my opinion. I can listen to that and really just feel terrible temptation in that voice. Perfectly used in Nip/Tuck (an OK soundtrack, starts off GREAT but then becomes... nothing of interest). I bet you have heard their chillout mix of As the Rush Comes by Motorcycle- greatest song ever. If I recall correctly, Motorcycle was a collaboration between Gabriel, Dresden, and Jes. Jes is by far one of my favorite female vocalists for trance music. Fell in love with that voice from Tiesto's In Search of Sunrise vol 3. ... Ah the music. And I still think you should join artist server, if you can with mixes of other artists songs. Damn good stuff. __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\ Last edited by Hain; 01-12-2008 at 12:42 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-12-2008, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hain has a plan Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere	I did it by hand because I wasn't feeling like an engineer: spend three times the time it would normally take learning a clever way of doing it so I don't have to do as much work next time. Some applications I know have these features, again I don't know how to work them, FooBar2000 (requires 3rd party plugins), CUE Tools... plenty more at Hydrogen Audio. __________________ ////\\// IRONSKY.NET \\//\\\\

01-12-2008, 05:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	will I just wanted to revist and thank you for your attention to detail in your review. It's refreshing to get a track by track analysis from a detail oriented listener. Nothing like an in depth review into your track selection to make you realize what makes good things good and bad things bad. I thank you for your effort.

01-12-2008, 05:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Not a problem. I don't get to do this with Tiesto or Oakenfold, so it's a treat.

01-25-2008, 11:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	bump

01-25-2008, 01:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	I hax. but nah I haven't made any cue sheets anyway so.. Although, I'm thinking it may be time to re-do this mix and extend it a bit to a full 60-70 minutes and make a batch of professional looking cd's to hand out at work or something I feel like using as a fun lil social gig. Probably going to wait until May or so. I'm still working on a website 1st

01-28-2008, 04:33 AM	#21 (permalink)
Jadedfox Egocentric Location: World of Warcraft	I love Pole Folder so any mix including a track by them is worth listening to! --jaded __________________ There is no fucking you, there is only me.

01-28-2008, 08:39 AM	#23 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	huh, I don't really know what the legality of mix cd's are, but that tempts me to just avoid listing the track names entirely. The average Joe wouldn't know up from down if I just handed them a completley free unlabeled stream of music I mixed together. but... yeah... who does know the legality of this? Like I know if I go and play in a club, they are already paying like a general licensing fee just to be able to play music (and thats why you pay a cover) so you're covered by that as a DJ. I just don't know where the variables "mixed" and "free" and "promotional showcase of one's technical skill" enter when figuring out this law

01-28-2008, 10:36 AM	#24 (permalink)
vanblah Junkie	It is illegal to distribute any copyrighted material without the express written permission of the copyright holder(s). Sometimes, especially in the case of electronic or dance music, permission may be implied--but not always. Check the original CD or record for the fine print. You have to keep in mind that a lot of times the artist is not actually the copyright holder; so he or she may be totally cool with you using their stuff on your mixCD; but the publisher may not be happy with it at all. It's an unnecessarily complex waste of paperwork, but that's the way it is. Even if it's a "demo" of your skills as a DJ it is still illegal unless otherwise stated by the original copyright holder. Still, you're pretty much small potatoes in the grand scheme of things and since you're handing them out for free it's not like they'd do much but send a stern cease-and-desist. You can't get blood from a turnip.

01-28-2008, 03:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	hey, i resemble that remark but yeah these are tracks I purchased from beatport.com, they supply directly from the labels (and thus have the zone restrictions on some releases, like there is a new ferry corsten track that is only out in the UK now but on beatport and they wont let me add it to my cart, so I cannot purchase it which actually cost them money cuz I downloaded it anyway from an alternative source) > I think the laws and practices of labels only serves to screw them over in the new "age" of music distrubution. I dunno, I'll probably go ahead with doing what I plan on doing.

01-28-2008, 11:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
n0nsensical Junkie Location: San Francisco	Yeah it's "technically" illegal, but distributing free promo mixes is standard practice in the dance music industry. (not the kind of industry to be in if you're overly concerned with laws ) I wouldn't worry about it if you're not selling anything. These labels don't go around suing everybody. They're probably just happy for the publicity, and only the majors have the kind of cash to burn on lawyers anyway. Last edited by n0nsensical; 01-28-2008 at 11:47 PM..

01-29-2008, 06:28 AM	#27 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	yeah good point. These guys aren't exactly buddies with the RIAA, most of them are probably UK based anyway

02-02-2008, 04:55 PM	#28 (permalink)
n0nsensical Junkie Location: San Francisco	btw that Cosmic Gate track is really sick (love the addl work by Wippenberg). They are pretty much my favorite producers these days, though, for some reason I don't care much for their DJ sets Ive seen. They've just been hit machines for years, Exploration of Space, Analog Feel, Body of Conflict, lots of great remixes too. some goodies <object width="300" height="80"><param name="movie" value="http://media.imeem.com/m/ILpdu5PVa5/aus=false/"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://media.imeem.com/m/ILpdu5PVa5/aus=false/" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="300" height="80" wmode="transparent"></embed></object> <object width="300" height="80"><param name="movie" value="http://media.imeem.com/m/E3aCkXrngm/aus=false/"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://media.imeem.com/m/E3aCkXrngm/aus=false/" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="300" height="80" wmode="transparent"></embed></object> <object width="300" height="80"><param name="movie" value="http://media.imeem.com/m/eUVM-V_RQ5/aus=false/"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://media.imeem.com/m/eUVM-V_RQ5/aus=false/" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="300" height="80" wmode="transparent"></embed></object> Last edited by n0nsensical; 02-02-2008 at 08:31 PM..

04-25-2008, 07:27 PM	#29 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	I decided this is due for a bump

04-29-2008, 06:00 AM	#30 (permalink)
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