09-01-2007, 02:22 AM | #1 (permalink) |
Confused Adult
Location: Spokane, WA
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Getting started with electronic music.
I'm all about the beep beep boop boop unntz uuntz type of music, pretty clear isn't it?
anyways I'm formulating a wishlist (as well as hunting for other like minded prey, err, peers) and sometimes I feel like i'm missing something so I always write stuff down and let a group of people look at my "model" that I build for myself. uhh so, I guess 1st things 1st, I'm looking at going back to school for audio technology (originally was going in for computer related stuff but I could never NAIL DOWN a discipline, networking? programming? hardware? I dunno, fucking I wanna know it all, just teach me shit and shutup about it!) I figure maybe this isn't such a bad thing for me. I mean, hey, I like/know how to manage stuff when it comes to computers, Electronic music is more about "programming" a set of variables before running voltage through all the filters to create those wonderful sounds we like to refer to as "DAFT PUNK" (ok thats oversimplifying things but still, thats where it begins at least) The course i'm looking at deals a lot with midi/mastering/production stuff. So dealing with pro-audio is a nice perk methinks. for now, http://www.spokanefalls.edu/TechProf...chProgram.aspx looks interesting to me. I dunno, stuff I'm looking at picking up to "start" though. (click if yer curious) and now for youtube video spam <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZWg1H8TJOQs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6CPamByPMWk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="353"></embed> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FIz0kuWcWsA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="353"></embed> <3 so yeah, (reason basically replaces and surpasses that 500$ lightshow in the last 2 videos. though it is really cool) ;p what do you guys think? does anyone have an experienced perspective on this? |
09-01-2007, 03:04 PM | #2 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: Florida
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Ok first off... I'm assuming (and you know what happens when one assumes) that you wanna do things the digital way instead of all analog such as Daft Punk.
If you go digital a good place to start would be a Mac with Reason as a SOUND SOURCE -- not a sequencer. My preference with a sequencer is Cubase. If you're saving money (of course) there are different versions of the software. LE and SE are lower end versions that work just as well as SX but with minor holdbacks such as limited audio, midi tracks and limited VST inputs -- yadda yadda yadda. I also think you can't REwire Reason in LE... but than again LE is free with a ASIO Driver hahaha. Cubase is cool cause it's very easy to REwire Reason into it to use it as a sound source. Also it's compatable with PC and Mac if you aren't looking to switch or buy a new computer. The USB MIDI board that you have up there is perfect. But the Korg Pad seems to be, IMHO, useless for drums and such. My buddy bought that particular board and had problems with double triggering sounds and them not triggering at all. They're also kind of a bitch to setup --- Just wondering --- The Axiom has 8 percussion pads on the side of it... why would you want the Korg padKontrol? The guy looks like he's just using in place of an actual keyboard. Another good place to start is buy some old ANALOG hardware synths so you can get the feel of a hands on setup. IMO, I first bought a JP-8000 which is a digital-analog synth. www.vintagesynth.com/roland/jp8000.shtml It has KILLER phat sounds and it's great for starting out on routing and sound synthesis. I hope this helps a bit but there will probably be more questions. Just let me know man. |
09-01-2007, 03:48 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Confused Adult
Location: Spokane, WA
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well digital is cheaper to start off with and, in a way, seems a bit more in tune with my computer nutty ways. I really like the hands on gear as well though because i'm a bit more "kinesthetic" I guess you'd say?
I've never tried cubase, my software experience has been FL Studio/Acid Pro/Vegas/Reason 2.0 and 3.0 (though I still use it like 2.0 because I didn't buy it and therefore have no manual to figure out how the hell the combinator is supposed to be used) but I plan on buying 4.0 because it's a great peice of complex software. I want the Korg pad for portability, I carry my LIFE in my backpack (even my shaving stuff) and thats kinda weird, i know, I even have a full size room to put my shit in, but I just don't like being "home" I have a 4.5 pound Vaio with all my software and samples loaded up on to it and then 3 hard drives worth of stuff on the home computer, so basically I could go hang out in the park, or an late night diner, work on some beats or synth lines, and bring it all back home and categorize it. and yeah I don't really care for reason's seqencer but the one in 4.0 seems to be a little less retarded (I got my hands on the beta) as far as double triggering or not triggering at all, that sucks, wonder if it has something to do with the programmable velocities? I dunno, most of the stuff I've read would indicate it's pretty solid, and I think having the lil XY pad would be a nice "perk" to a midi device. It's really the only reason i'm considering it over the MPC 24 (which I kinda ruled out due to the only "advantage" that I could find being that it has more faders and knobs, but then, thats where the axiom would be useful) I don't know, I've been a "hobbyist" in the genre for 5 years but mostly as a DJ, so I'm not too experienced yet, hopefully I'll get my head around it all once I have it in my posession (still looking at a few months till I round up the funds) |
09-04-2007, 11:27 PM | #4 (permalink) |
Crazy
Location: Canadeh!
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check out Live.
I have the axiom 61 and it's sweet. ableton also has a live pack out for it that has control mappings already programmed in 3 presets, which should save you at least a couple hours of dicking around. If you are going to want to record anything, you're going to run into latency. To record you'll have to buy an audio interface (stay away from firewire if you want to be mobile... you'll need an ac adaptor for it since you're not running mac). what kind would depend on what you're intending to record. and reason doesn't surpass real hardware... some things just don't stand for emulation, but it is a hell of a lot easier to set up and tear down. Last edited by 0001; 09-04-2007 at 11:36 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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