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Lasereth · 03-27-2006, 12:11 PM

I'm looking for a certain genre of music. I like "metal" but I think it's too wide of a genre for what I'm looking for. Specifically, old-school Metallica (songs like Battery, Master of Puppets, For Whom the Bell Tolls, etc.), Slayer (I've listened to a lot of their stuff recently and it's basically what I'm looking for), and any other band that sounds like the aforementioned. What I'm NOT looking for is crap like Pantera, Ozzy + Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, or anything else that is in that state of mind. I don't like raw screaming or the Throat Cancer metal like someone mentioned in the other threads. What I like most about the genre is the really fast guitar playing that is evident in the older Metallica and Slayer songs.

Anyone know what genre I'm talking about? I thought it was Thrash Metal, but someone mentioned Pantera and Black Sabbath being in that genre...so I'm not really sure (I can't stand that crap). What other bands sound like Slayer and Metallica? Thanks for your time!!

PS: I REALLY like St. Anger, Metallica's newest album. Anything that sounds similar would go over well also!!

Daniel_ · 03-27-2006, 12:19 PM

Tough. I know exactly what you mean - you want some sort of Melodic Thrash.

Have you tried early Testament?

Derwood · 03-27-2006, 02:35 PM

please don't reccomend Opeth or Dream Theater to this guy, even thouhj I know someone is dying to do so...

mrklixx · 03-27-2006, 08:38 PM

Here's a list for you:

http://www.metal-observer.com/articl...id=5&a=ls&s=14

And while every one of those bands may not be what you are looking for, it certainly gives you a launching point.

spectre · 03-27-2006, 08:57 PM

Anthrax and Megadeth. Both are great Thrash Metal bands and Megadeth features Dave Mustaine, who was the lead guitarist for Metallica before Kill 'em All was released.

Derwood · 03-28-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spectre

Anthrax and Megadeth. Both are great Thrash Metal bands and Megadeth features Dave Mustaine, who was the lead guitarist for Metallica before Kill 'em All was released.

True, they both follow the genre. I personally hate the singer for Anthrax, as I think he tries to sing too "pretty" for the music. It's like a hair metal band singer on a thrash metal band's album. I'm not a huge Mustaine fan either, but they've got a lot of fans and fit the description

spectre · 03-28-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

I personally hate the singer for Anthrax, as I think he tries to sing too "pretty" for the music.

There were two different singers with Anthrax. I think you're talking about Joey Belladonna. Look for the stuff with John Bush, I tend to prefer the stuff he sang anyway. They also had him sing some of the older stuff that Joey originally sang on the "Greater of Two Evils" cd.

samcol · 03-28-2006, 04:51 PM

Definetly pick up peace sells, so far so good so what, and rust in peace, maybe countdown and youthanasia too from megadeth. Mustaines voice isn't really screaming it's just that he sucks at singing at takes a bit to get used to

Basically the big ones for thrash that I'm away of are Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, and like others have mentioned Testament and Anthrax. Maybe try Overkill and Exodus too.

Check out a genre called Power Metal too. It's basically very fast, melodic guitars with very melodic singing too which is what seperates it from thrash metal, also the lyrics and keys tend to be more uplifting than dark and depressing as in thrash metal. Currently my favorite band in this genre is an Italian band called Rhapsody if you want an example.

Redjake · 03-29-2006, 12:52 PM

Rhapsody is excellent. Manowar. Thy Majesty. I think you would like all of these.

Derwood · 03-29-2006, 01:54 PM

ha, manowar. "If you're not into metal, you can kiss my ass!" Best lyric ever

Redjake · 03-29-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

ha, manowar. "If you're not into metal, you can kiss my ass!" Best lyric ever

manowar songs make me laugh out loud on a regular basis. this guy has an incredible voice, and when that perfect voice of his sings something so over the top and epic, it makes it 20 times better.

Frosstbyte · 03-29-2006, 06:06 PM

Why aren't we supposed to be recommending Dream Theater or Opeth? Dream Theater I guess isn't hard enough, but Opeth certainly isn't all that far out of line.

Derwood · 03-30-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte

Why aren't we supposed to be recommending Dream Theater or Opeth? Dream Theater I guess isn't hard enough, but Opeth certainly isn't all that far out of line.

my comment stemmed from the fact that no one can make a thread about music without those two bands being mentioned, not from their relevancy to this particular topic

samcol · 03-30-2006, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

my comment stemmed from the fact that no one can make a thread about music without those two bands being mentioned, not from their relevancy to this particular topic

Plus you can't talk metal without arguing about which of the dozens of different sub categories of metal a band fits in and why slipknot sucks.

mercury-hg · 03-30-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth

What I'm NOT looking for is crap like Pantera, Ozzy + Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, or anything else that is in that state of mind. I don't like raw screaming or the Throat Cancer metal like someone mentioned in the other threads. What I like most about the genre is the really fast guitar playing that is evident in the older Metallica and Slayer songs.

you're all over the place, buddy. what is the "state of mind" that links pantera, ozzy, sabbath, iron maiden, ac/dc? politics? booze? women? faux satanism? pot? american indians? how does metallica and slayer not fit in with these guys? since when did ozzy/sabbath, iron maiden, or ac/dc contain "raw screaming"? i don't even think phil's vocals in pantera, especially on cowboys from hell, are terribly "extreme" by modern standards - pretty much on par with tom araya and james hetfield's vocals.

your taste is your taste, but it's kinda hard to make recommendations when we can't follow your reasoning.

leftyderek · 03-30-2006, 11:26 PM

Hmm, although I am not a big Metallica fan, as far as I remember songs like Master of Puppets, Battery sound pretty different from the album St. Anger.

About the Power Metal suggestion- Yeah Rhapsody's pretty good. You can also look for a side-project thing called Avantasia. They have two albums in total I believe. Hm. Power Metal. I guess things like Nightwish would be too far away from old Metallica (or even from St. Anger)... then again wouldn't there be too many synth stuff in those? I guess he is looking for something with just vocal, guitars, bass and drum kit... I don't know. Nightwish is really great though.

Btw... actually what's wrong with Iron Maiden? Talking about fast guitar... it's hard not to think of Iron Maiden (or am I being stupid now?).
(And come on, Opeth and Dream Theater are just too far away from Metallica...

)

kutulu · 03-31-2006, 12:33 PM

How about Flotsam and Jetsam? Newsted used to play with those guys.
There is also Sacred Reich.
Grip Inc. is a great band featuring Slayer's drummer (Dave Lombardo).
What about COC (Corrision of Conformity)? They sure aren't thrash but if you like the Load-St. Anger era you'd prbably dig them too. Pepper (guitar, vox) and Het influenced either other quite a bit.
The later Sentenced albums (Down - Funeral Album) sound a lot like metallica from the Black Album and on.

skinnymofo · 04-01-2006, 11:22 AM

Stormtroopers of Death are pretty damn fast, its basically the anthrax guys with a roadie singer.
theres always Lemmy and Motorhead for the original speedy stuff
besides the 2 i just added and the ones listed above, im stumped on what exactly your looking for and what to suggest

Derwood · 04-01-2006, 12:24 PM

Dream Theater is quite possibly the least metal band name since Rainbow

spectre · 04-01-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

Dream Theater is quite possibly the least metal band name since Rainbow

Okay, I'll admit, the only other time I had heard of them was when they toured with Megadeth, and when I saw them the only thing I could think was, "is that House on the keyboards?"

Lasereth · 04-04-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kutulu

They sure aren't thrash but if you like the Load-St. Anger era you'd prbably dig them too. Pepper (guitar, vox) and Het influenced either other quite a bit.
The later Sentenced albums (Down - Funeral Album) sound a lot like metallica from the Black Album and on.

Keep in mind that I like everything from Master of Puppets back and St. Anger. Not really anything in between. Black and Load are waaaaay not what I'm looking for.

Thanks for the recommendations guys!! I know St. Anger isn't even on the same scale as what I was trying to get across...it was just a bonus if there was any other bands that sound like it (I'm a huge fan of St. Anger...probably the only fan of St. Anger). Keep the suggestions coming!!

leftyderek · 04-04-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spectre

"is that House on the keyboards?"

Hahahaaaaaa you mean the doctor House on that TV series?

I haven't noticed that until you pointed it out...

CyCo PL · 04-08-2006, 01:40 AM

I know you said no Pantera, but if you haven't heard Cowboys from Hell, you should check that out. It's a completely different sound from all of pantera's later stuff. You might wanna check out some old Sepultura, specifically the Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains, and Arise albums. Everything after that is a lot less "thrashy" and heavier and more hardcore sounding. Might also want to check out some of the german thrash metal bands, like Sodom, Destruction, or Kreator.

If you want to hear bands that sound like St. Anger, check out Slipknot, since that's who Metallica was trying to rip off when they made that album.

Also, I don't know if anybody has said it, but Dragonforce is an amazing speed/power metal band. They really transcend the genre of metal and are just in a category of their own--the awesome category. I have friends that hate metal that love Dragonforce because they're just crazy good.

Dawson70 · 04-08-2006, 09:36 AM

Maybe a band called Venaculas is something your looking for. They are considered in the Aggro genre.
http://www.venaculas.com

ironchefkorea · 04-09-2006, 09:03 AM

Unearth - The Oncoming Storm

younger, more on the screamy side, but very fast guitars, very technical. I think you'll like if you can get over some of the screaming.

blahblah454 · 04-09-2006, 05:36 PM

As far as thrash goes defanitly check out Kreator. I was able to check these guys out live about a month ago and they blew me away. They are real thrashy and sound kinda slayerish.

Kreator!

optik_nerve · 04-09-2006, 08:12 PM

I'll have to second Anthrax and fucking mad props to Kutulu for mentioning Sacred Reich.

I wasn't even thinking of them when I was reading the thread.

spectre · 04-09-2006, 10:28 PM

After going back and listening to The Sound of White Noise, I think Anthrax (especially that album) is perfect for what you're looking for.

ThrasheR · 04-15-2006, 12:38 PM

Overkill
Testament
Megadeth
Exodus
Kreator
Sodom
Destruction
Annihilator

alpha66 · 04-16-2006, 06:18 PM

Dragonforce!!!! extreme power metal! at it's best! fucking love it .... and they don't take themselves very seriously! well worth checking out!

Zodijackyl · 04-20-2006, 05:07 PM

Cryptic Slaughter are very raw thrash/speed metal. Try their debut album Convicted.

Krisiun play very fast, but many people dislike the death metal vocals.

ThrasheR · 04-20-2006, 07:11 PM

ehhh, I don't suggest Dragonforce to this guy really.

I actually saw Krisun with Morbid Angel and Behemoth last week, it was the best show of the year, and Krisiun were effing awesome but this guy isn't looking for that kind of band at all.

Threadstarter I think you should go out and buy Overkill - The Years of Decay RIGHT NOW!!!

Oh, and from Megadeth: Killing is my business...and business is good!, Peace Sells...But Who's Buying, So Far...So Good... So What! and Rust In Peace!! \m/

CyCo PL · 04-21-2006, 01:22 AM

I know it's been said but Testament is awesome. When I explain how Testament sounds to people, I say "imagine how Metallica would sound right now if they didn't start sucking".

I saw Krisiun live like five or six years ago with Cryptopsy, they were awesome. I wouldn't consider them thrash metal though.

03-27-2006, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Thrash Metal? I'm looking for a certain genre of music. I like "metal" but I think it's too wide of a genre for what I'm looking for. Specifically, old-school Metallica (songs like Battery, Master of Puppets, For Whom the Bell Tolls, etc.), Slayer (I've listened to a lot of their stuff recently and it's basically what I'm looking for), and any other band that sounds like the aforementioned. What I'm NOT looking for is crap like Pantera, Ozzy + Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, or anything else that is in that state of mind. I don't like raw screaming or the Throat Cancer metal like someone mentioned in the other threads. What I like most about the genre is the really fast guitar playing that is evident in the older Metallica and Slayer songs. Anyone know what genre I'm talking about? I thought it was Thrash Metal, but someone mentioned Pantera and Black Sabbath being in that genre...so I'm not really sure (I can't stand that crap). What other bands sound like Slayer and Metallica? Thanks for your time!! PS: I REALLY like St. Anger, Metallica's newest album. Anything that sounds similar would go over well also!! __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

03-27-2006, 12:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Daniel_ Evil Priest: The Devil Made Me Do It! Location: Southern England	Tough. I know exactly what you mean - you want some sort of Melodic Thrash. Have you tried early Testament? __________________ ╔═════════════════════════════════════════╗ Overhead, the Albatross hangs motionless upon the air, And deep beneath the rolling waves, In labyrinths of Coral Caves, The Echo of a distant time Comes willowing across the sand; And everthing is Green and Submarine ╚═════════════════════════════════════════╝

03-27-2006, 02:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	please don't reccomend Opeth or Dream Theater to this guy, even thouhj I know someone is dying to do so... __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

03-27-2006, 08:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
mrklixx President Rick Location: location location	Here's a list for you: http://www.metal-observer.com/articl...id=5&a=ls&s=14 And while every one of those bands may not be what you are looking for, it certainly gives you a launching point. __________________ This post is content. If you don't like it then you are not content. Or perhaps just incontinent. This is not a link - Do not click here I hate animated avatars.

03-27-2006, 08:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	Anthrax and Megadeth. Both are great Thrash Metal bands and Megadeth features Dave Mustaine, who was the lead guitarist for Metallica before Kill 'em All was released. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

03-28-2006, 04:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
samcol Junkie Location: Indiana	Definetly pick up peace sells, so far so good so what, and rust in peace, maybe countdown and youthanasia too from megadeth. Mustaines voice isn't really screaming it's just that he sucks at singing at takes a bit to get used to Basically the big ones for thrash that I'm away of are Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, and like others have mentioned Testament and Anthrax. Maybe try Overkill and Exodus too. Check out a genre called Power Metal too. It's basically very fast, melodic guitars with very melodic singing too which is what seperates it from thrash metal, also the lyrics and keys tend to be more uplifting than dark and depressing as in thrash metal. Currently my favorite band in this genre is an Italian band called Rhapsody if you want an example. Last edited by samcol; 03-28-2006 at 04:53 PM..

03-29-2006, 12:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	Rhapsody is excellent. Manowar. Thy Majesty. I think you would like all of these. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

03-29-2006, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	ha, manowar. "If you're not into metal, you can kiss my ass!" Best lyric ever __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

03-29-2006, 06:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	Why aren't we supposed to be recommending Dream Theater or Opeth? Dream Theater I guess isn't hard enough, but Opeth certainly isn't all that far out of line.

03-30-2006, 11:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
leftyderek Crazy Location: Currently Canada. I have been in Norway in the last two years, and in Hong Kong before Norway.	Hmm, although I am not a big Metallica fan, as far as I remember songs like Master of Puppets, Battery sound pretty different from the album St. Anger. About the Power Metal suggestion- Yeah Rhapsody's pretty good. You can also look for a side-project thing called Avantasia. They have two albums in total I believe. Hm. Power Metal. I guess things like Nightwish would be too far away from old Metallica (or even from St. Anger)... then again wouldn't there be too many synth stuff in those? I guess he is looking for something with just vocal, guitars, bass and drum kit... I don't know. Nightwish is really great though. Btw... actually what's wrong with Iron Maiden? Talking about fast guitar... it's hard not to think of Iron Maiden (or am I being stupid now?). (And come on, Opeth and Dream Theater are just too far away from Metallica...) __________________ -Imagine how beautiful the world would be if we could only do things for the first-and-last time. Imagine this is the last time you would ever be able to imagine. Imagine that. -Die Lust der Zerstörung ist gleichzeitig eine schaffende Lust. -...and god said Lx1,go! and there was light...

03-31-2006, 12:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	How about Flotsam and Jetsam? Newsted used to play with those guys. There is also Sacred Reich. Grip Inc. is a great band featuring Slayer's drummer (Dave Lombardo). What about COC (Corrision of Conformity)? They sure aren't thrash but if you like the Load-St. Anger era you'd prbably dig them too. Pepper (guitar, vox) and Het influenced either other quite a bit. The later Sentenced albums (Down - Funeral Album) sound a lot like metallica from the Black Album and on.

04-01-2006, 11:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
skinnymofo Addict ed to smack Location: Seattle	Stormtroopers of Death are pretty damn fast, its basically the anthrax guys with a roadie singer. theres always Lemmy and Motorhead for the original speedy stuff besides the 2 i just added and the ones listed above, im stumped on what exactly your looking for and what to suggest

04-01-2006, 12:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Dream Theater is quite possibly the least metal band name since Rainbow __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

04-08-2006, 01:40 AM	#23 (permalink)
CyCo PL Addict Location: Tulsa, OK	I know you said no Pantera, but if you haven't heard Cowboys from Hell, you should check that out. It's a completely different sound from all of pantera's later stuff. You might wanna check out some old Sepultura, specifically the Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains, and Arise albums. Everything after that is a lot less "thrashy" and heavier and more hardcore sounding. Might also want to check out some of the german thrash metal bands, like Sodom, Destruction, or Kreator. If you want to hear bands that sound like St. Anger, check out Slipknot, since that's who Metallica was trying to rip off when they made that album. Also, I don't know if anybody has said it, but Dragonforce is an amazing speed/power metal band. They really transcend the genre of metal and are just in a category of their own--the awesome category. I have friends that hate metal that love Dragonforce because they're just crazy good. Last edited by CyCo PL; 04-08-2006 at 01:45 AM..

04-08-2006, 09:36 AM	#24 (permalink)
Dawson70 Here to Help My Fellow TFP'er Location: All over the Net....(ok Wisconsin)	Maybe a band called Venaculas is something your looking for. They are considered in the Aggro genre. http://www.venaculas.com __________________ "I Finally Finished My Goal....You Can Too! Yippie Ki Ya...

04-09-2006, 09:03 AM	#25 (permalink)
ironchefkorea Insane	Unearth - The Oncoming Storm younger, more on the screamy side, but very fast guitars, very technical. I think you'll like if you can get over some of the screaming. __________________ If it wasn't for microsoft, if we lived in the middle east? Y'all wouldn't have no hands....

04-09-2006, 05:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road...	As far as thrash goes defanitly check out Kreator. I was able to check these guys out live about a month ago and they blew me away. They are real thrashy and sound kinda slayerish. Kreator!

04-09-2006, 08:12 PM	#27 (permalink)
optik_nerve Psycho Location: Florida	I'll have to second Anthrax and fucking mad props to Kutulu for mentioning Sacred Reich. I wasn't even thinking of them when I was reading the thread.

04-09-2006, 10:28 PM	#28 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	After going back and listening to The Sound of White Noise, I think Anthrax (especially that album) is perfect for what you're looking for. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

04-15-2006, 12:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
ThrasheR Upright	Overkill Testament Megadeth Exodus Kreator Sodom Destruction Annihilator

04-16-2006, 06:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
alpha66 Upright	Dragonforce!!!! extreme power metal! at it's best! fucking love it .... and they don't take themselves very seriously! well worth checking out!

04-20-2006, 05:07 PM	#31 (permalink)
Zodijackyl Tilted Location: CT/USA	Cryptic Slaughter are very raw thrash/speed metal. Try their debut album Convicted. Krisiun play very fast, but many people dislike the death metal vocals.

04-20-2006, 07:11 PM	#32 (permalink)
ThrasheR Upright	ehhh, I don't suggest Dragonforce to this guy really. I actually saw Krisun with Morbid Angel and Behemoth last week, it was the best show of the year, and Krisiun were effing awesome but this guy isn't looking for that kind of band at all. Threadstarter I think you should go out and buy Overkill - The Years of Decay RIGHT NOW!!! Oh, and from Megadeth: Killing is my business...and business is good!, Peace Sells...But Who's Buying, So Far...So Good... So What! and Rust In Peace!! \m/ Last edited by ThrasheR; 04-20-2006 at 07:27 PM..

04-21-2006, 01:22 AM	#33 (permalink)
CyCo PL Addict Location: Tulsa, OK	I know it's been said but Testament is awesome. When I explain how Testament sounds to people, I say "imagine how Metallica would sound right now if they didn't start sucking". I saw Krisiun live like five or six years ago with Cryptopsy, they were awesome. I wouldn't consider them thrash metal though.