01-09-2006, 08:05 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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GM Pony is back! Camaro Concept unveiled!
<DIV class=storycontent><DIV class=rightbox><IMG title=jan7cam.jpg alt=jan7cam.jpg src="http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-images/media/jan7cam.jpg" border=0></DIV><P><EM>Road and Track</EM> magazine has leaked a photo and video of the 2008/2009 Chevrolet Camaro Concept on its website. The car is due this week at the Detroit auto show. They’ve pulled their article on the car, which is believed to have been published prematurely. The official announcement is expected Sunday or Monday. We’ll keep you posted as this story develops. <STRONG>UPDATED: More photos after the jump…</STRONG></P><A id=more-1264></A><P><!-- IMG ARTICLE PAGE WITH CAPTION, BEGIN --><TABLE class=artimage cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><IMG src="http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-images/media/jan7cam_2.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- IMG ARTICLE PAGE WITH CAPTION, END --></P>
<P><!-- IMG ARTICLE PAGE WITH CAPTION, BEGIN --><TABLE class=artimage cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><IMG src="http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-images/media/jan7cam_1.jpg"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P></DIV> LINK Interesting but uninspiring especially after seeing the Challenger.
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01-09-2006, 08:32 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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It's like the bastard child of a Chrysler 300 and an Aston Martin...
I don't like the styling on this one at all. Give me my '79 T/A over that thing any day.
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01-09-2006, 10:24 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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i like the cabin-back, but there's something about that front... i'm not sure what it is
but regardless, it's about damn time! even though i think it's interesting that in bringing back the GTO, GM argued endlessly that they didn't like the idea of going retro and insists on giving a vehicle that "moved forward, not looked back" and yet here we have a retro-styled camaro... i have to say i can't wait for a couple years to have the mustang, challenger, camaro shootout!!!
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01-09-2006, 10:31 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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I think Im going to have to see one in person, cause this doesnt impress me one bit
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01-09-2006, 10:32 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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GM is too busy buying guns and shooting themselves in the foot. If I saw this on the street, I would assume it was the new Charger if not for the bow tie on the grill.
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01-09-2006, 12:56 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Personally, I like it, though I'm more interested in what the FINAL version looks like, as GM products have a tendancy to change drastically between concept and production. A key factor in my final opinion will also be drivetrain choice. I sure hope that, at the VERY least, the LS2 is the engine for the Z28 and/or SS versions.
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01-09-2006, 03:47 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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01-09-2006, 05:37 PM | #10 (permalink) | |
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new pics from NAIAS
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70 Challenger... 69 Camaro... long front hood, comes to a slight point in the middle, almost identical front chrome grill, almost identical roof sloping into identical c-pillars. a rise in the beltline near the rear wheelwell. slightly sloping trunk lid. wtf do you expect, they gave it the chevy cowl hood, three "vents" in front of the rear wheel, ice-cube tray front grille, 2 round headlights with lower round fog-lights, dual exhaust, a lip on the back. there isn't too much to the original camaro that screams "original!" anymore than there was to the challenger, the form differences were slight at best... the thing that separated the two visually was chrysler's crazy paint jobs.
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01-09-2006, 05:50 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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p.s. couple more pics... from head-on it looks pretty mean
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01-09-2006, 09:07 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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hmmm a little more impressive...
let's see it on the street.
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01-09-2006, 09:24 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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01-09-2006, 09:58 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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Holy god the Camero concept is ugly.
Really. Ugly. Damn. It took work to make a car that ugly. I'm not an automotive stylist, and no, I coulnd't to one better myself, but man is that ugly.
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01-09-2006, 11:42 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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Sorry, but, I have to ask GM if they discontinued their eyesight along with the Oldsmobile branch. Except for the new Corvette, all of their cars have become uglier (or ugly to begin with). I think they took the worst feature from every generation and tried to cram it on to one hideous vehicle. I am personally a huge GM fan, and I'm afraid of what's in store for the future.
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01-10-2006, 05:43 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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As a former Camaro (and Firebird) owner, I'm just not feeling it.
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01-10-2006, 06:17 AM | #17 (permalink) |
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If it doesn't get the 400HP LS2, what else would they put in it? Seems that engine has become the bastard child for all the cars they want performance in not called Corvette.
It's alright, it's nothing great. Kind of retro-newish looking like the Mustangs. Except, I think the new Mustangs with no wheels, or Saleen/Roush body kits, are as ugly as anything else. But, like many others, I just don't feel the Camaro being done justice. |
01-10-2006, 07:35 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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Is Chevy copying all of Chryslers designs now? First the HHR which is a PT Cruiser with a fatter body, and now this which looks like a 2 door Charger. What an ugly, uninspired design, but typical of American automakers.
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01-10-2006, 07:35 AM | #19 (permalink) | |
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There is some good discussion about it over on LS2.com in their "GM News/Corner Garage" forum. That engine has a ton of potential, and is already making a name for itself as a solid performer. I believe a comment was made at the show about it having 100 more hp "readily available" if/when need be, without making it terribly inefficient.
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01-10-2006, 08:01 AM | #20 (permalink) | |
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01-10-2006, 10:47 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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May I humbly suggest the LS7 Now that would get my attention and I could live with some external ugliness, especially if supported with a nice suspension and brakes ...call me weird, I like to stop sometimes. They already have the tranny and rear to go in such a creation. I'm waiting for the cost of a new reproduction '69 Camaro to come down under $35k and then simply throw an LS7 crate motor in it (under 17k according to the latest HotRod mag) and be done with it ...other than the cruisin' with permanent facial muscle cramps from the big smile on my face. |
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01-10-2006, 03:29 PM | #25 (permalink) | |
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01-10-2006, 04:36 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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3 people having an opinion doesn't make it fact
at least 10 responses in this thread haven't mentioned a thing about it looking like a chrysler vehicle maybe we should make a poll about it so we can settle it once and for all. let it be known among the nations that we, the TFP, will decide the general concensus on the new camaro styling!
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01-10-2006, 05:12 PM | #27 (permalink) | |
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People see what they want to see in a car, especially a concept, I and some others happen to see a 2 door Charger, some people won't see the resemblance between the two, much like some people will like the car and some people won't. I myself am not a fan of it, but thats my opinion. We all know what opinions are like, right?
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01-10-2006, 06:33 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
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01-10-2006, 08:43 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Apparently I'm one of the few here who does, but I really like the design of the concept. Could just be because I've always been a Chevy guy. I've never been a fan of the vents in front of the rear wheels but other than that I like the design. I think it does a fairly good job of taking a classic design and modernizing it. Hopefully it will make it to production and not get changed too much in the process.
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01-10-2006, 08:45 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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I must admit that I like it in silver better than red and the larger pictures give me more to look at (obviously)
I like both rides for different style cues.
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01-16-2006, 07:59 PM | #40 (permalink) |
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I don't really mind the look, though the front grill has to go. I think it might even look better as a real machine, as I hope to hell they lose that front grill. Though, while I dont think it looks bad, and I really do think it will look better, I as well, as a fan of the old ones, do not feel it.
As to what exactly makes me feel the way I do... From the side, the cabin is just a hair to long, and the hood would look better comming out more horizontal at the tip. I think the whole thing rounds down too much. I'm sure it's not beneficial in the wind tunnel however, lol. I also think the rear fenders flare too much, i like the nice wide ass on the car, but i think the doors/sides dip just a little too much. That and take the windows and make em just a little less rocketship-square looking, and we might have a really nice car. Just my 2 cents though. EDIT: It should be noted that of course the silver ones look better, they are press photos taken from the angles that make that car look the best, and run through some digital enhancments before they ever get to us. Last edited by krwlz; 01-16-2006 at 08:03 PM.. |
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