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Old 10-27-2004, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I HAVE A HOLDEN COMMODORE SS UTE 5.7 L CHEVY ENGINE,HAS ANYBODY DONE ANY RESEARCH INTO SUPERCHARGING THEM?
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Old 10-27-2004, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I assume a 5.7l Chevy is an LS1, even in a Holden?

Not to be a smartass but have you done a Google search for "LS1 Supercharger"? I just looked quick but there seems to be a *ton* of information out there.
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Old 10-27-2004, 10:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah if it's an LS1 a supercharger should be easy to find and get...here's a link to one review I found http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec..._magnacharger/
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My philosophy is if you have to ask on a forum about something to do with cars, it's best to leave it to a good mechanic. Go to a trustworthy mechanic, someone who has decades of experience with midifications like forced induction, and ask him/her. Just IMO.
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Not necessarily. It never hurts to ask and educate yourself. I mean that is what forums are there for,partly at least, and if he is more interested in the subject knowing what's what will save him some headache later on if he does decide to let a mechanic do it. I've seen people on various forums know less than I do about engine mechanics start asking around and learning on their own and within a year or so they were a regular wrench on their own car with good results.
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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In a perfect world, yes. Unfortunatally, forums are full of people who love to bs and give out missinformation to people. As trust is a factor in the learning process, I don't know that the information given out would be trustworthy.
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If you go to a REAL enthusiasts board(not knocking this one but let's face it there are probably all of 5-7 people here who have done more than routine car stuff to their vehicles on their own) preferablely one specific to your make and model car then usually it's not a problem. As if somebody gives out BS or off info somebody else that's honest and knows their stuff will be right there to correct them and usually give references and reasons why.
And to be honest if you don't learn this stuff on your own you are asking for trouble later on because things do break and the sooner you learn how to do things on your own the sooner you don't have to take your car back to the shop if the slighest little thing goes wrong. You will also know if somebody is trying give you a bunch of BS if you know what's going on and a good car forum is the best FREE thing for that.
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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a 5.7 liter chevy (chevy 350 ) is a very common engine. There is probably somebody making a supercharger kit for your application.

btw, considering TFP currently has 42,878 members, I'd be willing to bet that there are a few more than 7 "people here who have done more than routine car stuff to their vehicles on their own"
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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a 5.7 liter chevy (chevy 350 ) is a very common engine. There is probably somebody making a supercharger kit for your application.

btw, considering TFP currently has 42,878 members, I'd be willing to bet that there are a few more than 7 "people here who have done more than routine car stuff to their vehicles on their own"
Maybe but look at how many frequent this particular board. Not that many.
And look how many just look at the porn and that's it. My 7 number might be low but do you really think this board is up there in collective automotive knowledge? Again no disrespect to the folks like merker who obviously know their stuff. I'm talking the hardcore stuff. If we created a simple little test and asked people to define what an IRS was,what is the difference between an OHC or OHV, and what is the difference between a turbo and a supercharger the vast majority wouldn't be able to answer the question without cheating.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My philosophy is if you have to ask on a forum about something to do with cars, it's best to leave it to a good mechanic. Go to a trustworthy mechanic, someone who has decades of experience with midifications like forced induction, and ask him/her. Just IMO.
I'd have to disagree. Several years ago I knew very little about working on cars. I'd always been interested, but I never had the opportunity to learn from someone or in a school setting. After having two mechanics in a row try to take me to the cleaners, I decided I needed to learn how to start doing things for myself. Being a geek, I started searching on the web and came across a club for owners of my car (http://www.beretta.net). I started reading the forums, asking questions, and learning. When I bought a new car, I found a club for that one too (http://www.clubgp.com) and continued to learn.

Today, I am hardly a master mechanic, but I have saved myself literally hundreds of dollars performing maintainence and making repairs myself. I have learned a great deal about how cars work and I continue to do so. It's incredibly satisfying to be able do the work yourself, and just as satisfying to be able to hold your own in a conversation with mechanics and "car guys".

The information is out there. You just have to know how to reach out and grab it, and how to separate the good advice from the bad.
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Old 10-29-2004, 08:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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DJ I totally agree that some forums are good sources for info. I've been using www.automotiveforums.com for several years. Some people online are very knowledgable, but not as trustworthy as my mechanic. What I was saying is that THIS particular forum is not huge on automotive repair and upgrades. I still trust my mechanic more than anything I could get online.
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Old 10-29-2004, 10:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I still trust my mechanic more than anything I could get online.
It's true, a really good mechanic is worth his weight in gold. I was spoiled when I was younger, because my mechanic was also my next door neighbor and a friend of the family. Now, I've moved out of my parents' house and to a new city, and I'm still trying to find one that I really trust.

The one advantage to getting info online is that you can get multiple perspectives and opinions. With a lot of people giving you advice on the same topic, the BS'ers tend to become fairly obvious and good advice from multiple people may give you insight you otherwise wouldn't have had.
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Old 10-30-2004, 01:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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there are alot of mechanics who arent all that bright, but yes, there are supercharger systems for your application already made- do a search on google.

my buddy is a tech at a ford dealership and is nearly through with his training, I sure as hell dont think he could design a supercharger system after having completed their training. I, on the other hand could make it work given the time/money. though I have not taken the time to research what is different from the OHV to the OHC. obviously ive seen an OHC system and know how it operates. and I also dont know how independant rear suspension works, since I have never had the need to know about it.

alot of mechanics that I know are really just not on par. they have the technical details-(secure all hoses and make sure everything is tight) aspect, but they lack true understanding of what is happening.

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Old 10-30-2004, 10:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm talking the hardcore stuff. If we created a simple little test and asked people to define what an IRS was,what is the difference between an OHC or OHV, and what is the difference between a turbo and a supercharger the vast majority wouldn't be able to answer the question without cheating.
Shit those are easy questions.....anyways back to the topic....is there any speed shops in australia? They should be able to find you a supercharger easily...or at least give you options.
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Old 10-30-2004, 05:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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What year is this car?

I got a 80's 350, I beat yours is newer and has all that emissions(sp) crap on it!
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Old 10-30-2004, 05:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Here's one for you:

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...1-02fbody.html
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Old 10-31-2004, 08:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What year is this car?

I got a 80's 350, I beat yours is newer and has all that emissions(sp) crap on it!

2003 december with heaps of emmision crap
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Go look at the camaroz28.com forum in the forced induction section. All the info you need.
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:50 PM   #19 (permalink)
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try george hadad in melbourne (Aust) he's the guru with that sort of thing.
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Old 11-29-2004, 06:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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my buddy is a tech at a ford dealership and is nearly through with his training, I sure as hell dont think he could design a supercharger system after having completed their training. I, on the other hand could make it work given the time/money. though I have not taken the time to research what is different from the OHV to the OHC. obviously ive seen an OHC system and know how it operates. and I also dont know how independant rear suspension works, since I have never had the need to know about it.

alot of mechanics that I know are really just not on par. they have the technical details-(secure all hoses and make sure everything is tight) aspect, but they lack true understanding of what is happening.
i got to disagree with you. most decent technicians have a much stronger understanding of how a system works, simply because they are always having to figure out why it failed. For example, if you have a transmission that is slipping, it is not enough to be able to point to the clutch or band that is smoked, as they are only the symptom of the real problem. you have to figure out what caused the failure in the first place. in order to do so, you must have a solid understanding on how and WHY the systems work the way they do. as well as having to understand how they interact with other systems within the vehicle. a heavyline technician HAS to know drivability and drivetrain, in order to understand the affects each system is having on each other, in order to correctly pinpoint the cause of an issue to the correct system.

Most auto forum members understand the basic theory behind a system, as you say the difference between OHV and OHC designs, but how many can tell you how its implemnted in the real world and why it behaves the way it does? understanding the principle theory behind a system and fully understanding the system are not the same.
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