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krwlz 09-24-2004 07:41 AM

2007 Camaro
 
You guys see this yet? I personally think its hot as hell.

Let me know if its a repost, I searched, but didn't find anything.
http://popularhotrodding.com/feature...amaro_12_z.jpg
http://popularhotrodding.com/feature...amaro_13_z.jpg
http://popularhotrodding.com/feature...amaro_01_z.jpg

What the new 2007 Camaro is supposed to look like.
article

ShaniFaye 09-24-2004 07:45 AM

me likes!!!!!!!!! I'll finally be able to replace my 95 camaro :) It will take me that long to save up the money..I bet its gonna be expensive

onetime2 09-24-2004 07:48 AM

I like it. May just consider buying one if it looks that good in production and the performance is there.

CrazySaturn 09-24-2004 08:08 AM

Ummm, that's not at all what it will look like. No one knows, that's just a fan drawing.

Willravel 09-24-2004 08:40 AM

Yea, dude. It's in the article. Just a guess. But who knows? I hope we get to see the concept soon. *saves $$*

powerclown 09-24-2004 09:01 AM

Pretty sweet...I like Ford's interpretation of the old Mustang a bit more. I dunno, maybe from some different angles, hard to say. The wheels are hot. Wonder what the interior looks like.

Dane Bramage 09-24-2004 10:17 AM

Hell yeah! Very retro and very cool. I was always a fan of the '68 Camero, and this is certainly a throw back to those great cars.

Nice find, BTW.

onetime2 09-24-2004 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazySaturn
Ummm, that's not at all what it will look like. No one knows, that's just a fan drawing.


Well that sucks. This is one of those times that I actually like the concept drawing.

castex 09-24-2004 10:19 AM

The front's okay-ish. The sides are a bit silly, and the whole retro thing is just too dull for words, darlings.

Rdr4evr 09-24-2004 10:45 AM

Indeed. I am sick of the retro thing as well. In 2007 you would expect manufacturers to take a new approach. Be original, dont copy the past.

Stare At The Sun 09-24-2004 11:09 AM

All I can say; it better have a v8, have close to 300 hp, and be affordable for middle class. That is all.

Moonduck 09-24-2004 11:51 AM

Well, I'm glad to see em bringing it back. I thought it was criminal to have gotten rid of it in the first place.

I still like Mustangs better though =)

Seans4.2 09-24-2004 12:03 PM

that is more like a 69 than a 68. see the lines coming off the wheel wells?

exizldelfuego 09-24-2004 07:27 PM

I enjoy the retro design thing, actually. There are a lot of really cool old cars out there, and I don't think there's anything wrong with taking a long, hard look at what design principles made some particular car a classic and then reintroducing those same principles with a more modern flair to them. I'm not familiar with the Camero stylings of yore, but the strong angular muscular appearance looks good. I dig the whisps off the wheel-wells, the exaggerated rear haunches, and the slim snout on the hood.

If you're dealing with a brand which has some particular lineage, there's nothing wrong with staying true to that lineage and borrowing things from its past. It invokes a sense of nostalgia and draws upon its past reputation. The only time it's a bad thing is when the new product doesn't live up to its predecessors.

RaDiAn 09-24-2004 09:12 PM

I thought it would gone forever....Very nice I like the retro look too! Seeing that it is just a fan drawing, whoever but they have the right idea for sure!!

Halx 09-24-2004 09:13 PM

Looks too much like the 2005 Cobra

BeBogus 09-24-2004 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seans4.2
that is more like a 69 than a 68. see the lines coming off the wheel wells?

Thats really interesting how the lines spin off the flared tire arches. It makes it unique and cool but at the same time it looks hotwheel-ish.

krwlz 09-25-2004 01:56 PM

See my, Dad owns a 67 camaro, and to me, this car is sweet, because it really goes back to that. That and 67-69 were pretty much the only camaro's I've ever liked.

If it actually comes to production that way, Well damn, I would consider buing it.

But 300 horse, and affordable would have to be a must. From the pony car angle, I would have to assume it would be comparable to the mustang.

On a side note, I will admit ford did a good job with the new mustang, but I just don't like mustangs.

punx1325 09-25-2004 02:23 PM

Very sick looking, glad to see they are bringing it back.

Lockjaw 09-25-2004 07:41 PM

The Camaro when it comes back definately will have over 300 horsepower. I mean the LS1 F-bodys made 350 at the crank. I highly doubt they'd take a giant leap backwards in power like that especially with a 300 horsepower Mustang out and a 345 horsepower Charger coming out soon.

twilightfoix 09-30-2004 11:55 PM

So it's not exactly what the 2007 camaro will look like but it's quote "very close"
Quote:

We get our best idea of what the new-for-2007 Camaro will look like from the members of cheersandgears.com, a website of and for GM enthusiasts. This drawing by artist Chris Pauwels is said to be very close. Many members on the site have close connections to GM and give the rendering credence.
so yeah the final design will be tweeked here and there but the over all look will be the same. and personally it makes me happy :D

herostar 10-01-2004 12:13 AM

It has gone retro just like the mustang. I love this new Comaro. The latest body type of comaro looks like shit IMHO.

Glava 10-01-2004 06:22 AM

Everything but the tiny round headlights is beautiful.

Scorps 10-01-2004 08:28 AM

Looks good but like the old concept drawing

http://home.cogeco.ca/~tylerdonlon/c...Concept_01.jpg

cxnaj20 10-01-2004 10:18 PM

Looks like they're taking Ford's idea with the 05 Stang?

Kurant 10-02-2004 06:17 AM

The Charger is a 4-door sedan based on the 300c chassis, it's not even in the same class as a high 12 second Cobra. It's yet another 14 second Hemi driven car.

Nothing can compare to what you can do do an '03 Cobra as opposed to anything Dodge or Chevy offers. The Camaro will probably come with an LS1 motor, and go mid/low 13's like the C5 Vette did, anything else and it's a waste of time and money spent in production. It will most likely be put on the GTO chassis/drivetrain. Probably made a little bit lighter. Although, at this point it's all speculation.

I think they look is sick, but Chevy is a little proud of what they make. I was actully quite impressed that MSRP on a Vette was $800 lower then the C5. I think Chevy made a great move with the Vette in the right direction, if they continue, they could be right there with Ford. Remember though, no Cobra for the '05 models has been released yet from what I've seen, who knows how bad ass that thing is going to be.

todd 10-02-2004 06:38 AM

Damn thats nice. I like it a lot. It looks a lot like the 05 Mustang though.

I'd be willing to bet those 2 red 3D renders aren't the official ones - looks like the work of just a fan who saw the concept sketche(s) and modeled it for themselves.

breastboy 10-02-2004 09:17 AM

looks pretty nice..similar to the 05 mustang..does anyone know where it's gonna be built? i thought they shut down the plant in quebec that built the last camaros.

Scorps 10-02-2004 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breastboy
looks pretty nice..similar to the 05 mustang..does anyone know where it's gonna be built? i thought they shut down the plant in quebec that built the last camaros.


They rip it down......so I don't know because it said that plant was the only plant in North America that is "aloud" to build the Camaro's and Firebird's

krwlz 10-02-2004 01:18 PM

According to an article I read, they got rid of the camaro so they could tear that plant down, because it was expensive, and now that its gone, they can start building for the future.

tspikes51 10-04-2004 01:43 PM

I like it!!! Kind of like the 1st gen SS and the 4th gen all rolled into one.

mrbill700 10-06-2004 02:21 AM

Mmmmmmm. . .
:eek:
:thumbsup:
wow!

breastboy 10-06-2004 03:04 AM

maybe they discontinued the camaro for a while so they would have an excuse the fark the union at the quebec plant by shutting it down and starting up a plant somewhere else and hiring cheaper labour to build the new camaro..farkin' union GM works workers make way too much over here in canada

silver26 10-06-2004 03:30 AM

I knew Ford was gonna set a trend with their new mustang. I believe that Dodge is doing a charger like this as well.

Lockjaw 10-06-2004 04:20 AM

Nah the Charger isn't going to be retro. Hold on I'll post up a picture of the Charger.

Oh and to answer the question about the power plant...the new Camaro likely will get the LS2 for it's SS version.

silver26 10-06-2004 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Nah the Charger isn't going to be retro. Hold on I'll post up a picture of the Charger.

But I coulda swore I saw it on the cover of a magazine, looking retro.

Lockjaw 10-06-2004 04:23 AM

New Charger in camo....

http://www.thecarconnection.com/imag...8588_image.jpg

http://www.thecarconnection.com/imag...8590_image.jpg

http://www.thecarconnection.com/imag...8589_image.jpg

silver26 10-06-2004 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver26
But I coulda swore I saw it on the cover of a magazine, looking retro.

ahh... found it

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/i...2004114458.jpg

On a quick glance, I thought it looked like the mustang... I was wrong.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/i...2004124915.jpg

Car & Driver article

Lockjaw 10-06-2004 04:35 AM

Well you probably are thinking about the lower portion of the front fascia. And the 05 Mustang does share that same look on the lower part and they both will have a shark nose look on the front. But yeah not really all that retro.

Scorps 10-06-2004 10:25 AM

That charger is ugly and why is it a 4 door??

krwlz 10-06-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pain Train
That charger is ugly and why is it a 4 door??

I agree... Then again, I've never liked chargers.

337 10-06-2004 05:15 PM

I drive it

Glava 10-07-2004 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver26
ahh... found it

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/i...2004114458.jpg

On a quick glance, I thought it looked like the mustang... I was wrong.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/i...2004124915.jpg

Car & Driver article

That looks like the Hyundai Elantra from the front.
http://www.detnews.com/autosweekly/0...elantraeps.jpg

Scorps 10-07-2004 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krwlz
I agree... Then again, I've never liked chargers.


Neither have I, never liked Dodge and never will

summerkc 10-07-2004 06:23 PM

Looks pretty nice, I can't wait to get one, my '95 Z28 is starting to show her years. It does look a lot like the new mustang, but that older style camaro and mustang had a lot of similarities.

One thing that does need to be changed is the back, it doesnt look like it has an aggresive stance like the 5th and 4th Gens do.

Ramega 10-07-2004 06:23 PM

That Charger is unfortunate. Looks too much like the Magnum/300.

I like the retro thing. The new GTO is a travesty of body design. It looks like an Integra humped a Grand Am. Muscle cars are supposed to look muscular; leave the spaceship look to the imports.

Jimellow 10-07-2004 07:02 PM

The drawings posted look really nice. Low and powerful, and I like the way the front looks a lot.

Regardless of whether the pics are legit or not, what do you think the retail of the base model of this new Camaro will be approximately?

Lockjaw 10-07-2004 07:43 PM

The V6 model?

Probably 21k or so. Camaros have always been just a LITTLE bit more expensive than their Mustang counterparts and the 05 V6 Mustang starts at just under 20k.

And Pain Train why the Mopar dislike? They've almost always had some of the baddest street machines around.

silver26 10-08-2004 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramega
That Charger is unfortunate. Looks too much like the Magnum/300.

I like the retro thing. The new GTO is a travesty of body design. It looks like an Integra humped a Grand Am. Muscle cars are supposed to look muscular; leave the spaceship look to the imports.

I agree that it looks like the magnum/300. It doesnt really appeal to me... but Im sure I am not a part of their target demographic anyways. (see my post on buying my first new car) :p

And yes, we all know the GTO is a flop. Seriously, what were they thinking with that?

Scorps 10-08-2004 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramega
That Charger is unfortunate. Looks too much like the Magnum/300.

I like the retro thing. The new GTO is a travesty of body design. It looks like an Integra humped a Grand Am. Muscle cars are supposed to look muscular; leave the spaceship look to the imports.


I don't think the GTO was that bad..but I'm still hearing rumors that the Monte Carlo is going back to its old ways...GTO power train(350 or LS-1 with RWD) with a whole new body design.

big_bubba 10-09-2004 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castex
The front's okay-ish. The sides are a bit silly, and the whole retro thing is just too dull for words, darlings.

Dull, shmull. We need more manufacturers to start bringing back new versions of their real cars. Nowadays a car IS just a car----they're all plastic boxes that aren't any fun. And the supply of old cars is going to run out eventually....so if people keep wanting to buy them, somebody is going to make new cars that resemble them. And IMHO, that's a good thing.

Scorps 10-10-2004 10:01 AM

If it sells why would they change

skyfire 10-10-2004 03:31 PM

Id very much like to see the return of a Monte RWD with that kind of powetrain. Im also very much lookin forward to the GTO's power bump theyre wanting to give it, 400hp+.

Imhotept 10-10-2004 03:56 PM

Camaro is no longer being made as of the end of 2004 production.

Lockjaw 10-10-2004 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imhotept
Camaro is no longer being made as of the end of 2004 production.

Ummmmm....you are off by about two years there.

Lockjaw 10-10-2004 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pain Train
If it sells why would they change

It sells because we no longer have an alternative to boring cookie cutter sedans and soulless commuters unless you want to buy a 40-50k Euro machine.

Daimler Chrsyler did some wonderful things with the 300 and the Magnum it made it so that you could get a cool looking car at a reasonable price.
Not everybody wants to drive a boring car but at the same time they don't want to drive something that's impractical. For the last 20 years it's like good looking,interesting and practical were mutually exclusive terms. I honestly get jealous when I look at the styling of the cars from the 50s and 60s and some from the early 70s. A 57 Chevy was a common commuter car back in the day but if you drove by in one of those today you'd turn heads because they actually look good nearly 50 years later...they are classics. Fast forward to 2050...do you think anybody will be clamoring to look at the old 2004 Camary or 2005 Accord? No because they are boring and heartless.

Hopefully in the next few years the car companies will start producing cars that fall back in line with those classic looking cars of the past and start making things that fit more the North American cultural and vehicular heritage.
Personally I'm tired of all the Japanese and Euro styling rip of domestics. A look that in my opinion doesn't look all that nice in it's original execuction much less an American bastardization of it.

ghdog 10-10-2004 06:32 PM

The new Charger is too much like the Magnum, and has got too much of this new Dodge design theme incorporated into it's design. Although a retro-ish Charger would follow in line with the new retro Cobra, Mustang, and possibly Camaro, this is just downright fugly. And that green is much too bright. I'm pretty sure the original Charger green was much more muted.

flooper 10-20-2004 06:27 PM

WOW....just like the original Camaro/Firebird.....lagging behind the newly redesigned 2005 Mustang. Who is sleeping at GM while Ford dominates this segment of the market??????

Lockjaw 10-20-2004 06:54 PM

As long as it comes back that's all that matters.

Bratwurst 10-23-2004 05:56 AM

why did the charger have four doors?

Seans4.2 10-23-2004 07:15 AM

lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flooper
WOW....just like the original Camaro/Firebird.....lagging behind the newly redesigned 2005 Mustang. Who is sleeping at GM while Ford dominates this segment of the market??????

They arent lagging behind at all. They still have the vette and of course the camaro will come back. I think it was just a marketing strategy. They tell everyone they are going to stop making camaros for good so everyone goes out and buys the last year of the camaro. A few years later its back again.

Lockjaw 10-23-2004 08:46 AM

For whatever the reason yes they are lagging behind. People buying Vettes aren't going to cross shop with a Mustang. And people that want to drive 2+2 V8 RWD pony car have the Mustang....and that's it. 5 years is a long long time in the car world to not have any product in a given niche if you are serious about that niche in the least.

superman4 10-23-2004 09:10 AM

That Camaro is da bomb!

superman4 11-21-2004 07:15 PM

I hope they follow through with this one

dmt767s 11-23-2004 10:48 AM

I'm a member on the site where that Camaro drawing originated. It was based on information from a very reliable source. Information has since dried up, and that Camaro which was almost a sure thing a few months ago is now up in the air.

TransAm-LT1 11-24-2004 11:54 PM

Im a fan of the idea when a car is retired let it be. We saw what they did to the GTO, no way to honor the judge with a rebadged Austrialian car, not that it's a bad car by any means, just that I dont think it deserves GTO name plate. You can tell by my user name im a big fan of the F-Bodys' I own a T/A and a Z/28, (lol and an STI) it made me sad to see the cars go away but I would hate to see them come back a some rebadged car.

Scorps 11-25-2004 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TransAm-LT1
Im a fan of the idea when a car is retired let it be. We saw what they did to the GTO, no way to honor the judge with a rebadged Austrialian car, not that it's a bad car by any means, just that I dont think it deserves GTO name plate. You can tell by my user name im a big fan of the F-Bodys' I own a T/A and a Z/28, (lol and an STI) it made me sad to see the cars go away but I would hate to see them come back a some rebadged car.


I didn't like to see the GTO come back like that but the 05' looks badass, but I'm for the power not all for the looks.

And buy the look of both the drawings I have seen the car doesn't look like another rebadge, but remember Pontiac screwed the GTO up Chevorlet doesn't make those kinda mistakes!

twilightfoix 11-30-2004 09:30 AM

Ok, ugly ass charger, time to start writing to Dodge, gentlemen get out your pens and open your e-mail accounts, we're going to Dodge.

Ultimate_Gohan 11-30-2004 10:44 AM

Is the Camaro going to have a v8? I heard it was going to have either a super charged v6 or a tiny v8 with over-head cam like the mustang. And what about the Trans Am? I wouldn't mind seeing an updated Knight Rider.

fastom 11-30-2004 05:26 PM

I think GM would make the car look much more bland by the time it comes out. It'll probably be priced way up there too. Just look at the SSR and GTO.

You'd think the 4 door thing just assures they won't sell many Chargers to old musclecar enthusiasts if that was their target market.... but aren't those the buyers that want their SRT10's as a 4 door? :rolleyes:

Scorps 12-01-2004 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockjaw
It sells because we no longer have an alternative to boring cookie cutter sedans and soulless commuters unless you want to buy a 40-50k Euro machine.

Daimler Chrsyler did some wonderful things with the 300 and the Magnum it made it so that you could get a cool looking car at a reasonable price.
Not everybody wants to drive a boring car but at the same time they don't want to drive something that's impractical. For the last 20 years it's like good looking,interesting and practical were mutually exclusive terms. I honestly get jealous when I look at the styling of the cars from the 50s and 60s and some from the early 70s. A 57 Chevy was a common commuter car back in the day but if you drove by in one of those today you'd turn heads because they actually look good nearly 50 years later...they are classics. Fast forward to 2050...do you think anybody will be clamoring to look at the old 2004 Camary or 2005 Accord? No because they are boring and heartless.

Hopefully in the next few years the car companies will start producing cars that fall back in line with those classic looking cars of the past and start making things that fit more the North American cultural and vehicular heritage.
Personally I'm tired of all the Japanese and Euro styling rip of domestics. A look that in my opinion doesn't look all that nice in it's original execuction much less an American bastardization of it.


Your so right all the classics turn heads, thats why I drive a 82 in like 5 years it (might) turn heads :D


the only car GM has put out that looks a little old is the SSR and I think the front end looks nice but the back needs work!

queedo 12-03-2004 08:44 PM

man that car is cool looking!

Painted 12-03-2004 09:25 PM

..but its only 2004!

Scorps 12-04-2004 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painted
..but its only 2004!


3 years isn't that long.


Ok maybe it is to wait for a car like that!

krwlz 12-04-2004 03:30 PM

When and if (I peronally am confident that it will come around) that camaro comes out, I have only one fear. I'm sure chevy will power the thing like crazy, at leas the SS version, but I am hoping and praying... That they dont come back with those ugly ass tail lights!!

I personally have hated the Camaro/Firebird from the year '70 till the last generation. And I didnt really like the last gen either.

alarment13 12-04-2004 03:35 PM

i really like that concept camero, makes me wonder what a new firebird would look like (ive always liked firebirds more, I drive a 92 right now)


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