Juan Montoya Vs. Cameraman - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

End User · 05-12-2003, 09:52 PM

Download this vid, then vote! - **Caution. Explicit mispronounced swearing.**

http://members.chello.nl/c.langedijk...adomontoya.wmv

Who is to blame?

danjo328 · 05-12-2003, 10:25 PM

Definatly the camerman

End User · 05-12-2003, 10:26 PM

Why the Cameraman? Montoya was also not watching where he was going.....and I reckon that the Camera man was standing still.

yarbonwick · 05-12-2003, 10:38 PM

No watch it again..Cameraman was walking with his eye in the eyepiece. Definitely his fault.

Edit: Retracted below

End User · 05-12-2003, 11:03 PM

No, watch it again. It only looks like the cameraman was walking because the photographer in the red jumper moves to the left, giving the impression that the cameraman is moving forward. Maybe the video evidence is inconclusive.

tgg7979 · 05-12-2003, 11:15 PM

Montoya's fault. Watch it again

In the very beginning you can see the shoulder of the cameraman. Then the guy who taped this moves over to the left, then u see the collision. Montoya was lookin to the side when he shouldve been paying attention to what was in front of him. He has trouble walking without running into things, yet he goes and gets in that car and races. Real intelligent.

impirius7 · 05-12-2003, 11:19 PM

juan totally nailed it!

yarbonwick · 05-12-2003, 11:22 PM

Yeah I have to retract my vote. Montoya was paying too much attention to the Ferrari group and walked right into his. What a childish little bitch too.

deepinjello · 05-13-2003, 02:09 AM

Great to know that everyone has their moments. All montoya by the way.

zfleebin · 05-13-2003, 06:40 AM

Definitely Montoya's fault but he is pretty damn funny

Ashton · 05-13-2003, 12:27 PM

I'd have to say it was both of their fault for not watching were they were going.....

LOL, he got his license suspended! what a ass

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_779804.html

blkdmnd · 05-13-2003, 12:44 PM

Cameraman's fault. But, damn, give the guy a break. It was an accident. Celebrities...

tgg7979 · 05-13-2003, 03:20 PM

Cameramans fault?! I want what youve been smoking

DEI37 · 05-13-2003, 03:26 PM

Never have like Juan, but this was definitely his fault...and what a cry-baby. Moron.

oane · 05-13-2003, 10:48 PM

I am not Juan fan, but I blame the cameraman.

ASIDE: Juan's reaction is ridiculous. Crying like a pussy. Yeah, it hurts, but still.....either kick the guys ass or STFU!!

thepakratjr · 05-14-2003, 05:56 AM

"You broke my fuckin head" HAHAHA, what a great line.

Serpent · 05-14-2003, 11:02 AM

I think its both of their fault but more can be on the cameraman for not having a spotter.

Serpent · 05-14-2003, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oane
I am not Juan fan, but I blame the cameraman.

ASIDE: Juan's reaction is ridiculous. Crying like a pussy. Yeah, it hurts, but still.....either kick the guys ass or STFU!!

He about sluged the cameraman if it wasn't for his wife also, i do agree he did look like he was about to cry though..

tgg7979 · 05-14-2003, 11:23 AM

Since when does a cameraman have to have a spotter, any adult should know to look ahead of them while their walking. Montoya f***ed up and ran into the camera then made matters worse by acting like a spoiled brat.

Serpent · 05-14-2003, 09:12 PM

Any decent cameraman has a spotter because they have no peripherla vision, and their cameras are easy to damage if someone runs into them, also it ruins the shot.

tgg7979 · 05-14-2003, 10:20 PM

Ok, spotter or not tho, the cameraman was in same spot for almost the entire time, plenty of time for Montoya to see him if he wasnt a freaking cry baby moron.

shakran · 05-15-2003, 06:26 AM

"Any decent cameraman has a spotter because they have no peripherla vision, and their cameras are easy to damage if someone runs into them, also it ruins the shot."

What? There is not ONE news photographer out there that has a dedicated spotter. Hell most photographers don't even have a sound guy. No way would anyone budget in a full time employee for every cameraman just to stand around and make sure they didn't get run in to.

Oh, and a news camera is not built like the camcorder you use. It's much more durable. Montoya didn't damage that thing when he ran into it.

thadon · 05-15-2003, 10:23 AM

Juan walked into the camera guy. The camera guy was focused on the Driver in the red racing suit and Juan was not paying attention ... too damn funny

ARRH · 06-03-2003, 07:10 AM

Personally i think it looks like the cameraman walked into him. But anyway, he is probably my favorite driver at the moment, with Kimi. But i think there is no excuse for his language though. I thought that was a bit extreme!

ARRH · 06-03-2003, 07:12 AM

oh, and his chick is hot-as!!!

~springrain · 06-03-2003, 07:26 AM

i don't see any real "fault" here... it was an accident... how many times have we all bumped into someone or something because we were distracted...

bottom line is that Juan is in the wrong here... the camera man tried to apologize... Juan acted like a immature little jerk...

BoCo · 06-03-2003, 08:53 AM

Montoya's fault, although the cameraman should have been further back in the first place. Still, Juan was paying too much attention to the Ferrari busses instead of watching where he was walking. His reaction was funny but also out of place since it wasn't the other guy's fault.

Oh, yeah.... his wife's jeans are a great fit, if you get my drift.

GSRIDER · 06-03-2003, 10:18 AM

you fucking idiot, you broke my head!!

I don't care who was at fault Juan was an ass who couldn't handle a little accident. The Camera man apoligized... fuck juan

Atomic Pinkie · 06-03-2003, 12:20 PM

Juan could've sidestepped fuck him for not moving, he doesn't own the sidewalk

MIRA, you FUCKING IDIOT

YOU BROKE MY CAMERA

Atomic Pinkie · 06-03-2003, 12:21 PM

if we really want to analyze, if you're holding a camera, you can't see to your RIGHT SIDE

which side did he come from?

Exactly, point made

I bet he WAS standing still

Atomic Pinkie · 06-03-2003, 12:26 PM

lol

I've had this thing on a for a few minutes in the background, i love it

View Poll Results: Who is to blame?
Juan Montoya	8	44.44%
The Cameraman	10	55.56%
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05-12-2003, 09:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
End User Insane Location: Sydney, Australia	Juan Montoya Vs. Cameraman Download this vid, then vote! - Caution. Explicit mispronounced swearing. http://members.chello.nl/c.langedijk...adomontoya.wmv Who is to blame? __________________ People who have no faults are terrible!

05-12-2003, 10:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
End User Insane Location: Sydney, Australia	Why the Cameraman? Montoya was also not watching where he was going.....and I reckon that the Camera man was standing still. __________________ People who have no faults are terrible! Last edited by End User; 05-12-2003 at 10:31 PM..

05-12-2003, 10:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
yarbonwick Upright	No watch it again..Cameraman was walking with his eye in the eyepiece. Definitely his fault. Edit: Retracted below Last edited by yarbonwick; 05-12-2003 at 11:24 PM..

05-12-2003, 11:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
End User Insane Location: Sydney, Australia	No, watch it again. It only looks like the cameraman was walking because the photographer in the red jumper moves to the left, giving the impression that the cameraman is moving forward. Maybe the video evidence is inconclusive. __________________ People who have no faults are terrible!

05-12-2003, 10:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
danjo328 Upright	Definatly the camerman

05-12-2003, 11:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
tgg7979 Loser	Montoya's fault. Watch it again In the very beginning you can see the shoulder of the cameraman. Then the guy who taped this moves over to the left, then u see the collision. Montoya was lookin to the side when he shouldve been paying attention to what was in front of him. He has trouble walking without running into things, yet he goes and gets in that car and races. Real intelligent.

05-12-2003, 11:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
impirius7 Banned	juan totally nailed it!

05-12-2003, 11:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
yarbonwick Upright	Yeah I have to retract my vote. Montoya was paying too much attention to the Ferrari group and walked right into his. What a childish little bitch too.

05-13-2003, 02:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
deepinjello Insane Location: Where everyone knows my name	Great to know that everyone has their moments. All montoya by the way. __________________ "Hike up your skirt and show the world to me"

05-13-2003, 06:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Definitely Montoya's fault but he is pretty damn funny

05-13-2003, 12:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ashton PORNHOUND Location: California	I'd have to say it was both of their fault for not watching were they were going..... LOL, he got his license suspended! what a ass http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_779804.html

05-13-2003, 12:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
blkdmnd Addict	Cameraman's fault. But, damn, give the guy a break. It was an accident. Celebrities... __________________ I blow my nose at you. Now go away before I taunt you a second time.

05-13-2003, 03:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
tgg7979 Loser	Cameramans fault?! I want what youve been smoking Last edited by tgg7979; 05-13-2003 at 06:31 PM..

05-13-2003, 03:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Never have like Juan, but this was definitely his fault...and what a cry-baby. Moron. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

05-13-2003, 10:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
oane Insane	I am not Juan fan, but I blame the cameraman. ASIDE: Juan's reaction is ridiculous. Crying like a pussy. Yeah, it hurts, but still.....either kick the guys ass or STFU!! __________________ Make me Mad. Make me Sad. Make me feel Alright.

05-14-2003, 05:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
thepakratjr Upright	"You broke my fuckin head" HAHAHA, what a great line.

05-14-2003, 11:02 AM	#17 (permalink)
Serpent Insane Location: florida	I think its both of their fault but more can be on the cameraman for not having a spotter.

05-14-2003, 11:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
tgg7979 Loser	Since when does a cameraman have to have a spotter, any adult should know to look ahead of them while their walking. Montoya f***ed up and ran into the camera then made matters worse by acting like a spoiled brat.

05-14-2003, 09:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
Serpent Insane Location: florida	Any decent cameraman has a spotter because they have no peripherla vision, and their cameras are easy to damage if someone runs into them, also it ruins the shot.

05-14-2003, 10:20 PM	#21 (permalink)
tgg7979 Loser	Ok, spotter or not tho, the cameraman was in same spot for almost the entire time, plenty of time for Montoya to see him if he wasnt a freaking cry baby moron.

05-15-2003, 06:26 AM	#22 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	"Any decent cameraman has a spotter because they have no peripherla vision, and their cameras are easy to damage if someone runs into them, also it ruins the shot." What? There is not ONE news photographer out there that has a dedicated spotter. Hell most photographers don't even have a sound guy. No way would anyone budget in a full time employee for every cameraman just to stand around and make sure they didn't get run in to. Oh, and a news camera is not built like the camcorder you use. It's much more durable. Montoya didn't damage that thing when he ran into it.

05-15-2003, 10:23 AM	#23 (permalink)
thadon Cruisin thru life Location: Alpharetta, GA	Juan walked into the camera guy. The camera guy was focused on the Driver in the red racing suit and Juan was not paying attention ... too damn funny

06-03-2003, 07:10 AM	#24 (permalink)
ARRH Insane	Personally i think it looks like the cameraman walked into him. But anyway, he is probably my favorite driver at the moment, with Kimi. But i think there is no excuse for his language though. I thought that was a bit extreme!

06-03-2003, 07:12 AM	#25 (permalink)
ARRH Insane	oh, and his chick is hot-as!!!

06-03-2003, 07:26 AM	#26 (permalink)
~springrain Banned Location: central USA	i don't see any real "fault" here... it was an accident... how many times have we all bumped into someone or something because we were distracted... bottom line is that Juan is in the wrong here... the camera man tried to apologize... Juan acted like a immature little jerk...

06-03-2003, 08:53 AM	#27 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	Montoya's fault, although the cameraman should have been further back in the first place. Still, Juan was paying too much attention to the Ferrari busses instead of watching where he was walking. His reaction was funny but also out of place since it wasn't the other guy's fault. Oh, yeah.... his wife's jeans are a great fit, if you get my drift. __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

06-03-2003, 10:18 AM	#28 (permalink)
GSRIDER spurt king Location: Out of my mind	you fucking idiot, you broke my head!! I don't care who was at fault Juan was an ass who couldn't handle a little accident. The Camera man apoligized... fuck juan __________________ No signature at this time.

06-03-2003, 12:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	Juan could've sidestepped fuck him for not moving, he doesn't own the sidewalk MIRA, you FUCKING IDIOT YOU BROKE MY CAMERA __________________ Where dem bitches at?

06-03-2003, 12:21 PM	#30 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	if we really want to analyze, if you're holding a camera, you can't see to your RIGHT SIDE which side did he come from? Exactly, point made I bet he WAS standing still __________________ Where dem bitches at?

06-03-2003, 12:26 PM	#31 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	lol I've had this thing on a for a few minutes in the background, i love it __________________ Where dem bitches at?