clavus

I love this car, but it is wearing out. I'd buy another one, but it is no longer made.

I love having a reliable, fuel efficient 4-door that corners like it is on rails, and hauls ass.

The new RSX or whatever the fuck replaced the Integra sucks. I tried it, and you feel every pebble you hit. My wife was afraid that the car would (her words) "bounce her tits off." That''s somethiong I sure don't want to happen.

So, what should I get? New or used. I wanna spend $20-30k.

I drove an Audi A4 1.8T. Liked it. Any other suggestions?

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Stare At The Sun

Evo VIII.

4 doors
270+ HP
All Wheel Drive
Semi fuel efficient, as its a four banger...

Just my .02

castex

I really wouldn't buy an Evo if were looking for fuel economy! Still, what a hoot
Try any 6 cylinder BMW 3 series, perhaps a Lexus IS200 (a little short on power), or the new Mazda RX8.

kwoodmex

You could look into the TSX its Acura's replacement smaller 4 door vehicle. When they had the Integra, they had the 2-door and the 4 door. Now that they have the RSX, they have the RSX and the TSX.

like castex said, maybe look into a 3 series BMW, and for a 4 door Mazda look at a 6, or maybe a 3.

Peryn

Mazda 6, Maybe a Mazda 3. If you want to techinically have 4 doors, but not really, maybe an RX8? Saab 9-3 Arc sedan maybe, Subaru WRX (not hte most fuel efficient), not the sportiest car, but there is a decent following for a Maxima usually, then theres the usuall Bimmer or whatever....bah, gotta go.

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silent_jay

what everyone else says, but go for the WRX STI not just the WRX.

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Scorps

Go for a 98 or 99 Audi A8, my Aunt bought one and that thing is so damn nice!

might be more the 30K though...not sure!

shakran

The TSX has nothing whatsoever to do with the RSX platform. The RSX is an updated (and IMHO not at all improved) Integra, which was a Civic with a bigger engine. The TSX is the european-market Accord.

That said, the TSX is NICE as hell. Give one a try, it's an excellent machine. One of the best I've seen out of Honda in a long time.

agball

I recently bought the a new 03' Acura TL-S & love it, maybe check out the 04' but its a bit over 30K also might want to check out:

1. Infinity G35 4-door
2. Nissan Maxima
3. BMW 3 Series
4. Honda Accord

Any front wheel drive car will not handle as well as rear or all.

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clavus

I already own an Accord. Its very, very practical and boring to drive. (I have an old Toyota 4-Wheel drive pickup with a lift too. That's a blast to drive, but totally impractical for anything that doesn't involve yelling "YEEEEEEE HAAAAAWWW!" at the top of my lungs.)

Definitely going to check out the BMW 3 Series, Subaru WRX-SI and the TSX. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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shakran

check the TSX anyway. The difference between the American Accord and the Euro Accord is somewhat akin to the difference between a 386 and a pentium-IV There's really no comparison.

Stare At The Sun

If you are going to look at the STI, please look at the EVO. It is such a better car, and has a far better engine. Buschur racing is running 10's on the STOCK turbo. Insane car with crazy potential. It is also crazy boost happy, with very little lag.

I would really go for that

jizzmasterp

The Evo is a better race car, not a better car to live with that the STi. if he as concerned about feeling every pebble, the Evo is worse than the rsx. I also doubt the Sti would have a softer suspension than the rsx. The TSX, A4 1.8t and 325i are all sweet rides. If you don't wanna blow your budget, look at the mazda 6 v6 and the mazda 3.

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Scorps

I saw one of them in town the other day.....DAMN NICE LOOKING CAR!

but it had TX on the trunk the TSX!

fuzyfuzer

i fyou were willing to spend a more or get a lightly used one a 3 series is amazing the connection between you and the road can not be expressed in words once you go BMW it is hard to go back at least give it a test drive although they are kind of expensive

my thoughts on the tsx and new tl is that they are powerful but being front wheel drive hinders them and i personaly feel the styling is extremely bland like many hondas

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username

I was in the looking for a new car boat about a year ago. Some of the cars I had initialy looked at were:

- Mazda RX-8
- Subaru WRX
- Acura TSX
- Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
- Infiniti G35 Coupe / Sedan

In the end I ended up buying a WRX, not the STi, and have really liked it. It is a fun car to drive and gets better gas mileage (22/28) than what is listed (20/26).

I didn't look at any BMWs, but after driving my father's 540i 6-speed, I would look at a BMW in a heartbeat.

Scorps

I think they need to fire there design team...damn ugly cars coming out in the last couple of years!

username

Yeah, I'm not totally impressed with the new cars, however the new M5 does make me quite happy. Hopefully they will have changed the look a little by the time I start looking add another car to the stable.

shakran

I've heard rumors that some jackasses are running around stealing S's and i's off of cars to make Si badges for their riced out cars. Dunno how true it is, but there WAS that epidemic years ago with people swiping mercedes hood ornaments. . .

I agree with you about BMW's by the way. The new 7 and 5 series look like they have cancer of the trunk.

Scorps

Well I never heard about the letter stealing but it looked stock...there was no gap in the middle where the "S" should have been!

And the part I hate the most....I found a pic on the internet last week that had a pic of the truck lid and it had the TX on it...now I can't find it....SHITTY!

shakran

that's really odd. Why would someone modify their car like that?

I'm surprised that with all the TSX's I'm seeing around here, that I haven't seen any TSX-R's

Scorps

The wierd part is the guy driving it looke done of them office guys that doesn't know shit about cars, just drives one!


Teh wierd part about it 2 was that morning I didn't even know they had a 4 door version of the RSX, then this thread came up and I go out and boom there is one there, and its been like 3 days and I havn't seen another!

silent_jay

here's the best I could find for a trunk lid pic, but I'll keep looking, that S looks like it is hard to get rid of people must really not like it.
[IMG]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDhAqcVtipoPZWO*oP*!hdTyFb*HWQoLoJ!P80PzPK!PfM1fxVZoHvz3hhUmV6Lv3elyuGn8BWN19!WtTxVni1kCBp9NMg1WTNvOMeY26LjY40BB*MggQ/images%5B5%5D.jpg?dc=4675466833435612554[/IMG]

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shakran

if the car owner is doing it himself, he's either an idiot or he's from Texas. That's my conclusion

silent_jay

agreed

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Scorps

I don't know....I looked for 30 mins yesterday 2 and couldn't find it....this is pissing me off, And I wasn't stoned when i saw it!

silent_jay

I've been thinking about this PT and this is the only car that it could of been other than a TSX owner takin off the S, this is the TL.
[IMG]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDRAgUV6*3r9D5TfdJpGx6rP5YAdEolkS31I73SzFD0K5lOXlmpKfpFQPTqGB9snDSt1NRx1iCnomQc3nvLGDf6T2dd!zLoW1DDUthZIeq5lz3CpHaF5Q/04tl_5%5B1%5D.jpg?dc=4675467155110783234[/IMG]
[IMG]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TwDRAsgVlTnrbIhUNDff4KrgC*prNiVWzvAtj1RVLaRjXn4TuF!xg23*E81rDQehxZvGVf6haIoNX5UGZz1ToRhQ1iESPtc1YeSy2cf9HM0wghQ2SO69yA/030905ahm4%5B1%5D.jpg?dc=4675467155079689262[/IMG]
If not the owner had some serious issues.

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Scorps

Shit thats it.......

I knew there was to letters!

mercury-hg

i bought me a TSX about a month ago. can't recommend it enough. leather seats, power windows/locks, automatic trans (if you want it), sunroof, 6 cd-changer, etc are all standard, plus it's a blast to drive.

whoizzy

Your headed in the right direction my friend, I drive a fully modded 1.8T Jetta and believe me, it's an experience like no other. The Audi is much nicer in the inside though. But if you want another nice car, the Golf GTI 1.8T is a cool car, they also come in four door. Are you a tuner? If so, then you'll really love the German car market.

Scorps

I don't know why but I have never liked german cars!

silent_jay

WOW are you missing out on great cars.

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Scorps

Well I never liked the way VW or MB looked and wedll I could never afford one, plus the parts cost way to damn much, at least with my Shelby I can go pick up parts from a scrap-yard!

rideough

But Pt you have a good Benz dealer in K-town so hava looksy down there, then go look at the newest Accord or something from Nissan.
Avoid the American shite with a vengeance!!

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silent_jay

finally someone to back me up on the american shite, and don't call it a Shelby Mr. Shelby is embarrassed about this it's a Daytona.

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Scorps

What the Volvo dealership?

merkerguitars

i'll buy your old integra from you

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and you got money to do that?