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Old 03-26-2004, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It's not too incredibly horrible, but they really need to go back to their old style headlights.... Actually, I take that back, it's a fuckin' barf bag.







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BMW is poised to shake up the compact executive segment with the arrival of the new 1 Series. Featuring four engines, three gearboxes and rear-wheel drive, a combination not found in any of its competitors, the BMW 1 Series makes its entrance in autumn 2004 and will immediately offer a new benchmark to driving dynamics in its class.

The high-performance four-cylinder petrol model is the BMW 120i with its 150bhp and 200Nm 2.0-litre Valvetronic petrol engine. The BMW 1 Series launch line-up is completed with two versions of the powerful yet frugal 2.0-litre common rail diesel engine, the 122bhp 118d and the 163bhp BMW 120d.
Power is delivered to the road via a six-speed manual in 118d, 120d and 120i models, while the 116i has a five-speed manual gearbox. An optional six-speed automatic will also be offered on 120i and 120d models.

Although a new car in a new premium segment, the 1 Series has the traditional BMW design trademarks – the front kidney grille, double headlamps and ‘Hofmeister kink’ on the C-pillar all feature. These punctuate a genuinely head-turning styling that ensures the new 1 Series will stand out amongst its competitors.

After slipping behind the wheel and firing up the engine via a starter button, the driver will go on to enjoy BMW’s renowned 50:50 weight distribution and front engine, rear wheel drive set-up – unique in this class. Coupled with a technically elaborate aluminium front axle and five-link rear suspension, this ensures optimum handling and traction, and the most invigorating drive in the compact executive segment.

A drag coefficient of just 0.29 helps the new BMW 1 Series slip through the air with maximum efficiency and the minimum of noise. Standard fit 16-inch run-flat tyres also mean the days of motorway hard shoulder tyre changes are over.

Measuring just 4.23 metres long, but with a relatively long wheelbase of 2.66 metres, driving dynamics have been cleverly worked into a practical four-seater. The new 1 Series offers ample shoulder and legroom for rear passengers and, thanks to split fold rear seats that fold virtually flat, a similarly generous luggage capacity of between 330 to 1150 litres of storage space.

Dynamic Stability Control, Dynamic Traction Control, Dynamic Brake Control and Electronic Differential Lock help ensure the 1 Series provides the highest standards of active safety without impacting unnecessarily on driving enjoyment. An airbag system that includes head airbags for all occupants means the new BMW 1 Series also meets the most stringent passive safety requirements.
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Old 03-26-2004, 07:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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no, that's pretty damn horrible. Looks like a melted Golf.
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Old 03-26-2004, 07:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i don't know what to think I kind of like it, I kind of don't I'm just not sure about this.
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ehh, i dont think its TOO bad, but it would be better if they found a way to get rid of the hatchback and make it a real car. Oh well, i wonder what the price will be? Its got some nice features, but im not sure i could deal with the looks.
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Actually, I take that back, it's a fuckin' barf bag.

I couldn't agree more.
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm trying to figure out if it is a Ford Focus hatchback or a Pontiac Vibe; I'm not really getting a good sense of scale from those photos.
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ehh, i dont think its TOO bad, but it would be better if they found a way to get rid of the hatchback and make it a real car.
what about the M Coupe http://128.83.80.200/mcoupe/ It was a hatch and I wouldn't call it anything other than a car, they should of went with the same similar design as the M Coupe only with out the HP.
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm not in favor of it's looks, but I'm sure someone will by it.
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Old 03-26-2004, 10:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Someone hit that car with the ugly stick!
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:31 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I would be lieing if I said that I wouldnt want to take that thing for a rip.
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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someone needs to kick the engineers in the nutz for that one
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Old 03-26-2004, 11:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Someone decided to mock the design of the Z4

"Hey.. the Z4 is suuuuch a hot design.. let's make it into a compact!"

and someone thought the jackass was being serious.
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Old 03-26-2004, 07:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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At least they made it RWD. Now, they need to make it look good. I don't like hatchbacks to begin with, and this looks like an ugly hatchback version of a Z4 (I love the Z4 look)
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Old 03-27-2004, 12:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Seriously, wtf is BMW's problem.

They are supposed to make awesome Luxury cars w/ gobs of power, and luxury to match. Not this ford focus lookalike piece of shit.
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Old 03-27-2004, 03:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I think this car will be a hit in europe ... now that the new Golf didn't start as well as hoped, this might be the awnser !

If the price is competive to the golf this might be a good alternative, but my preference still goes to the new A3 made by audi !
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I kinda like it. I did like the Z4 hatchback alot.

Athough it looks like a 4 dr. Civic hatchback from behind.
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i like it.. but from what i can see of the interior it looks blah like most bimmers...
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It's as if BMW and Mercedes are in some kind of heated battle to see who can do a better job of shitting all over their image.

BMW: "Look what we got this Bangle guy to do to our flagship! And if you think that's bad, wait till you see what happens when we cut him loose on the rest of the lineup! Plus, we're forcing iDrive on our customers even though it's completely pointless and everyone despises it!"

M-B: "Oh yeah? Well we're going to roll out a bunch of cheap cars that look like the ones that cost half a million in order to ruin our upscale image and completely alienate all the people who wanted to buy a Benz because of the prestige. Then we're going to make them with all the quality and reliability of a 10 year old Hyundai!"

...and then people wonder why Lexus is doing so well.
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Old 03-27-2004, 10:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It's as if BMW and Mercedes are in some kind of heated battle to see who can do a better job of shitting all over their image.

BMW: "Look what we got this Bangle guy to do to our flagship! And if you think that's bad, wait till you see what happens when we cut him loose on the rest of the lineup! Plus, we're forcing iDrive on our customers even though it's completely pointless and everyone despises it!"

M-B: "Oh yeah? Well we're going to roll out a bunch of cheap cars that look like the ones that cost half a million in order to ruin our upscale image and completely alienate all the people who wanted to buy a Benz because of the prestige. Then we're going to make them with all the quality and reliability of a 10 year old Hyundai!"

...and then people wonder why Lexus is doing so well.
Ya know, I think irseg is really right on with that one.

To me, this thing looks like something Daewoo would do. Some immature car maker desperate for visability, but with no actual design people. Just a monkey and a pen.
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Old 03-27-2004, 11:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I actually like it, as far as hatches go.

I generally don't see why people hate the new bimmers (except the 7-series - the first time I was behind one my first thought was that it was a bloated saturn). I saw two 5-series parked next to each other today. One was new, and the other the previous model. The new one looked great. I always thought the old bimmers were visually boring.
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Old 03-27-2004, 11:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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so BMW decided that it might have a go at the Daewoo/Daihatsu market.

i think if i was going to get a car vaguely that shape, i'd go for the audi A3 or a golf, or even that Alfa 147 before i'd look at the BMW.
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Old 03-28-2004, 12:21 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I own a beemer, albeit an old one, but this car makes me sick. YUK!
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Old 03-28-2004, 12:29 AM   #23 (permalink)
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looks like a great replacement for the 318ti, and as someone else stated it's going to do well in the market that it would do well in, which is the Euro market.

have you seen those little econo boxes out there? from the Audi A2 to the MB A-class , it looks very much like a little version of the X series. It also stands to reason that they should have come out with something like this years ago.
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Old 03-28-2004, 04:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I really think you guys are overdoing your opinions. I understand they are your opinions, but the car is not a complete disaster. BMW is trying to appeal to a market base and it just happens to not be so glamorous. If you really hate this car, then maybe you are not in the "selected base" of buyers BMW is trying to reach.
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Old 03-28-2004, 05:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I don't think it's that bad, but I wouldn't drive it.
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Old 03-29-2004, 11:01 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Man that is one serious beltline crease.
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Old 03-29-2004, 11:04 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I really think you guys are overdoing your opinions. I understand they are your opinions, but the car is not a complete disaster. BMW is trying to appeal to a market base and it just happens to not be so glamorous. If you really hate this car, then maybe you are not in the "selected base" of buyers BMW is trying to reach.
Remember, "Where there is an ugly car, there will be an equally ugly buyer".
that's why I see SOOO many Subaru Baja's
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Old 03-29-2004, 12:42 PM   #28 (permalink)
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so how many of you haveactually gone up to the new BMWs and looked at them for a while oncve you do you get to see the grace and beutey (brain fart can't spell) of the cars and if you drive the new 5 series you can see the perfection in its ride

and trust me once you sit down and look at the z4 you can see its grace i know because i own one and it is great in person but i will agree that they don't look so good in a picture

the styling and the way the light hits it is something that just cant be captured in a picture
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:31 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I don't think it's that bad, I kind of like it. I would drive it.
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Old 03-31-2004, 05:11 AM   #30 (permalink)
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RWD= good
style= not so good (looks like a Matrix)
Price= probably not that bad

Its better looking than a aztek, so if I had to choose between them both, I think the bmw wins.

Are they planning on bringing it to the states?
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Old 03-31-2004, 01:16 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think you guys miss the point.

Hatch-backs are big, Big, BIG in Europe. This car will sell there.

Stop thinking that everything has to comply with American tastes.


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Old 04-01-2004, 06:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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damn, that's worse than one of these and i thought these were bad
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Old 04-02-2004, 10:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Looks like a more luxory ride than a sports car.
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Old 04-02-2004, 03:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't mind the look of it that much, however this hatchback looks kinda funny because the lines of the car imply a trunk but it isn't there. If this were a sedan I think it would look a lot better.
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Old 04-02-2004, 10:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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That 1-series has 2 too many doors.
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Old 04-24-2004, 09:11 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I like it ...and the M coupe

BMW's smaller cars have always turned my crank...like the 2002!
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Old 04-24-2004, 09:16 AM   #37 (permalink)
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the 2002 is the bomb, didn't Uncle P have 1 rideough or was it UW?
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Old 04-24-2004, 09:51 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I don't think it looks that bad but, I don't think it "looks like" a BMW.
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Old 04-24-2004, 09:53 AM   #39 (permalink)
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damn, that's worse than one of these and i thought these were bad
I like that design.

This new one looks like they let a drunk do the lines for it....no one is straight!
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Old 04-24-2004, 04:43 PM   #40 (permalink)
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How can someone say the M Coupe is an ugly car, I mean seriously it's one of the best designs for a hatch, and it has gobs of power, I mean sounds pretty good, of course I've always liked them.
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