Read this before asking for help with your car. - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

MSD · 09-13-2003, 07:00 PM

OK, so we have a bunch of people here who know a lot about cars, a lot who don't know as much, and probably some who think they know more than they do. Keep in mind that any advice you get can come from any of these groups, and that you shouldn't do anything to your car without knowing what you're doing.

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In many cases, bad advice wont hurt anything worse than the wallet, but given that cars travel at speeds that can kill, it behooves us, I think, to make sure that we are NOT offering advice that might get someone hurt.
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"A car that wont start cant hurt you, but a car that wont stop almost certainly will." We need to be sure that we put this thought in the minds of our members: that they could concievably contribute to the injury or death of someone else if they give bad advice, and as such, should be VERY careful about what advice they offer.

Having said that, if you're going to ask for help with your car, ther is some stuff that you should tell us. This is what was suggested by Sion, who suggested the creation of these guidelines:

Include in your post:

Year
Make
Model (and trim line)
Engine type
Transmission type
Drivetrain configuration (FWD, RWD, 4WD, AWD)
Number of doors, options, etc.
Any modifications that you have made to the car

What did you do immediately before the problem started?

Remember, more info is better than less, and too much can't hurt, it can only help us help you.

If you are a certified mechanic, PM me, and I'll put you on a list at the end of this thread.

MSD · 01-19-2005, 10:17 PM

BMW:
-BMW
-Mini
-Rolls Royce

Daimler/Chrysler:
-AMC (discontinued)
-Chrysler (Chrysler group)
-Dodge (Chrysler group)
-Eagle (discontinued)
-Freightliner (commercial transport)
-Hyundai (10%)
-Jeep (Chrysler group)
-Maybach (Mercedes Car Group)
-Mercedes-Benz (Mercedes Car Group)
-Mitsubishi (37%) (listed as strategic partner)
-Mitsubishi Fuso (commercial transport)
-Plymouth (discontinued)
-Setra (commercial transport)
-Smart (Mercedes Car Group)
-Sterling Trucks (commercial transport)
-Western Star (commercial transport)

Fiat:
-Alfa Romeo
-Ferrari
-Fiat
-Lancia
-Maserati

Ford owns:
-Aston Martin
-Ford
-Jaguar
-Land Rover (formerly BMW)
-Lincoln
-Mazda (33%)
-Mercury
-Volvo cars
(Ford also owns Motorcraft and Hertz)

Fuji Heavy Industries:
-Subaru

General Motors:
-Buick
-Cadillac
-Chevrolet
-Daewoo (44%)
-Fiat (~20%)
-Fuji Heavy Industries (~20%)
-GMC
-Holden
-HUMMER
-Isuzu (GM only owns a percentage)
-Oldsmobile (brand discontinued)
-Opel
-Pontiac
-Saab
-Saturn
-Subaru (20%)*
-Suzuki (GM owns a small percentage)
-Vauxhall
(GM also owns AC Delco)

Honda owns:
-Acura
-Honda
-Isuzu (small percentage)

Hyundai owns:
-Hyundai
-Kia

Nissan owns:
-Infiniti
-Nissan
-Renault (15%)

PSA Peugeot Citroen owns:
-Citroen
-Peugeot

Porsche is an independent company (works with Volkswagen)

Renault owns:
-Nissan (Renault owns 44%)

Toyota owns:
-Lexus
-Scion
-Toyota

Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen

*-GM owns 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries

dpezzo · 08-06-2005, 11:01 PM

wow, cool info on car ownership. so I am assuming that is a car make is not listed, then it is owned by itself, as I did not see the following patial list (sorry if I butcher the spelling):

detomaso
mcclaren
vector (is it even still around?)

01-19-2005, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	A quick corporate ownership tree BMW: -BMW -Mini -Rolls Royce Daimler/Chrysler: -AMC (discontinued) -Chrysler (Chrysler group) -Dodge (Chrysler group) -Eagle (discontinued) -Freightliner (commercial transport) -Hyundai (10%) -Jeep (Chrysler group) -Maybach (Mercedes Car Group) -Mercedes-Benz (Mercedes Car Group) -Mitsubishi (37%) (listed as strategic partner) -Mitsubishi Fuso (commercial transport) -Plymouth (discontinued) -Setra (commercial transport) -Smart (Mercedes Car Group) -Sterling Trucks (commercial transport) -Western Star (commercial transport) Fiat: -Alfa Romeo -Ferrari -Fiat -Lancia -Maserati Ford owns: -Aston Martin -Ford -Jaguar -Land Rover (formerly BMW) -Lincoln -Mazda (33%) -Mercury -Volvo cars (Ford also owns Motorcraft and Hertz) Fuji Heavy Industries: -Subaru General Motors: -Buick -Cadillac -Chevrolet -Daewoo (44%) -Fiat (~20%) -Fuji Heavy Industries (~20%) -GMC -Holden -HUMMER -Isuzu (GM only owns a percentage) -Oldsmobile (brand discontinued) -Opel -Pontiac -Saab -Saturn -Subaru (20%)* -Suzuki (GM owns a small percentage) -Vauxhall (GM also owns AC Delco) Honda owns: -Acura -Honda -Isuzu (small percentage) Hyundai owns: -Hyundai -Kia Nissan owns: -Infiniti -Nissan -Renault (15%) PSA Peugeot Citroen owns: -Citroen -Peugeot Porsche is an independent company (works with Volkswagen) Renault owns: -Nissan (Renault owns 44%) Toyota owns: -Lexus -Scion -Toyota Volkswagen owns: -Audi -Bentley -Bugatti -Lamborghini -SEAT -Skoda -Volkswagen *-GM owns 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries

08-06-2005, 11:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
dpezzo Tilted	wow, cool info on car ownership. so I am assuming that is a car make is not listed, then it is owned by itself, as I did not see the following patial list (sorry if I butcher the spelling): detomaso mcclaren vector (is it even still around?)