What the hell goes here? (Chevy 350) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

urbandev · 08-16-2004, 08:12 PM

i thought the oil filter attached to the block...but apperently i was wrong :x
what goes between the block and oil filter?

DDDDave · 08-16-2004, 08:49 PM

Are you sure that is not where the fuel pump is attached?

Your pics make it tough.

Good Luck.

offrapel · 08-16-2004, 09:00 PM

It looks like you need the oil filter adapter. It's a little casting with two bolt holes, a relief valve, and a large threaded pipe that the oil filter spins on to. When I converted my 67 engine from canister to spin-on type oil filters I needed one. Ricks First Generation sells them www.firstgen.com
You can probably just get them locally though.

urbandev · 08-16-2004, 09:20 PM

why the hell would GM still cast blocks with this style filter mount?

urbandev · 08-16-2004, 09:34 PM

http://www.rickscamaros.com/cgi-loca...ore.cfg+PSC-14

merkerguitars · 08-16-2004, 09:39 PM

Yeah looks like the old canister style filter setup. What year was the vehicle you pulled the block from? And who knows what the previous owner swapped in there for an engine.

urbandev · 08-16-2004, 09:41 PM

brand new crate GM goodwrench 350 from summit...

offrapel · 08-16-2004, 09:46 PM

I guess they never changed the block casting. I'm not really too fond of that little part. The threaded pipe often comes out with the oil filter. Hopefully this one has the pipe attached better than mine.

Scorps · 08-17-2004, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urbandev

brand new crate GM goodwrench 350 from summit...

Weird my 350 is a 88 or 89 and it doesn't have an adaptor....must have been the model you ordered!

BoomTruck · 08-17-2004, 07:57 PM

I've seen crate motors from GM with that setup. Sometimes oil cooler lines hook to the adapter, IIRC.

urbandev · 08-17-2004, 10:19 PM

"Hecho en mexico"
Made in mexico

Scorps · 08-18-2004, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoomTruck

I've seen crate motors from GM with that setup. Sometimes oil cooler lines hook to the adapter, IIRC.

now why would you need coolant for your oil in every day driving?

merkerguitars · 08-18-2004, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pain Train

now why would you need coolant for your oil in every day driving?

An oil cooler doesn't have actually any "coolant" in it. It looks like a mini radiator that the oil runs through and sometimes has it's own fan to lower oil temp. The only reason you really need one is for harsh driving. The other reason the setup is like that is for you to probably mount an oil filter relocation kit, since it's a crate engine that people probably drop in a variety of vehicles from fieros to camaros.

Scorps · 08-18-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by merkerguitars

An oil cooler doesn't have actually any "coolant" in it. It looks like a mini radiator that the oil runs through and sometimes has it's own fan to lower oil temp. The only reason you really need one is for harsh driving. The other reason the setup is like that is for you to probably mount an oil filter relocation kit, since it's a crate engine that people probably drop in a variety of vehicles from fieros to camaros.

Oh ya....I remember those things now(brain fart

) I was thinking it might be used for racing, but my buddy has a turbo charged 350 in his 87 Chevy pick-up and he says his help a lot!

CrazySaturn · 08-18-2004, 12:40 PM

I do believe it's so you can choose placement of the oil filter yourself. i.e. put it facing down on an extension for easier oil changes.

tfpfreak · 08-23-2004, 09:50 AM

It does need an adapter. Your local parts dealer should have this. Also, a relocation kit could be used. In this case, no adapter is needed and the oil filter can be mounted for easier access.

urbandev · 08-26-2004, 10:14 PM

Summit had it for $8

works great, well, aside from having to get some correct diameter bolts for it because the ones that transadapt supplied were too small. luckily i get bolts from work for like $0.02

Mod may close/delete this thread if you feel the need.

KrazyKracka · 08-29-2004, 08:25 PM

most blocks come shipped without the adapters, when I purchased my crate engine, it needed the adapter as well, which I purchased from GM for about $20. My old 350 also had an oil cooler on it from the factory, but I bypassed it (very easily) just for simplification and a "cleaner" engine bay. GM hasn't really changed the design of the SBC until recently, with the LS1 found in Corvettes, Trans Ams and Camaros. The basic design of the SBC is the same from its introduction in the late 1950's clear up until a few years ago with the debut of the LS1. In 1986, GM changed the blocks slightly, changing the crankshaft design, and putting roller lifters in the blocks.

08-16-2004, 08:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
urbandev Insane Location: Dayton, NV	What the hell goes here? (Chevy 350) i thought the oil filter attached to the block...but apperently i was wrong :x what goes between the block and oil filter? __________________ Raoul Duke: "I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you wandering around with a head full of acid, wanting to slice me up with that goddamn knife." Dr. Gonzo: "Who said anything about slicing you up, man. I just wanted to cut a little Z in your forehead."

08-16-2004, 08:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
DDDDave Addict Location: Sarasota	Are you sure that is not where the fuel pump is attached? Your pics make it tough. Good Luck. __________________ I am just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe... "Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined." - Thoreau "Nothing great was ever accomplished without enthusiasm" - Emerson

08-16-2004, 09:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
urbandev Insane Location: Dayton, NV	why the hell would GM still cast blocks with this style filter mount? __________________ Raoul Duke: "I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you wandering around with a head full of acid, wanting to slice me up with that goddamn knife." Dr. Gonzo: "Who said anything about slicing you up, man. I just wanted to cut a little Z in your forehead."

08-16-2004, 09:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
urbandev Insane Location: Dayton, NV	http://www.rickscamaros.com/cgi-loca...ore.cfg+PSC-14 __________________ Raoul Duke: "I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you wandering around with a head full of acid, wanting to slice me up with that goddamn knife." Dr. Gonzo: "Who said anything about slicing you up, man. I just wanted to cut a little Z in your forehead."

08-16-2004, 09:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Yeah looks like the old canister style filter setup. What year was the vehicle you pulled the block from? And who knows what the previous owner swapped in there for an engine. __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

08-16-2004, 09:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
offrapel Insane Location: Seattle, WA	It looks like you need the oil filter adapter. It's a little casting with two bolt holes, a relief valve, and a large threaded pipe that the oil filter spins on to. When I converted my 67 engine from canister to spin-on type oil filters I needed one. Ricks First Generation sells them www.firstgen.com You can probably just get them locally though.

08-16-2004, 09:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
urbandev Insane Location: Dayton, NV	brand new crate GM goodwrench 350 from summit... __________________ Raoul Duke: "I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you wandering around with a head full of acid, wanting to slice me up with that goddamn knife." Dr. Gonzo: "Who said anything about slicing you up, man. I just wanted to cut a little Z in your forehead."

08-16-2004, 09:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
offrapel Insane Location: Seattle, WA	I guess they never changed the block casting. I'm not really too fond of that little part. The threaded pipe often comes out with the oil filter. Hopefully this one has the pipe attached better than mine.

08-17-2004, 07:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
BoomTruck Insane Location: On a gravel road rough enought to knock fillings out of teeth.	I've seen crate motors from GM with that setup. Sometimes oil cooler lines hook to the adapter, IIRC. __________________ Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself.

08-17-2004, 10:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
urbandev Insane Location: Dayton, NV	"Hecho en mexico" Made in mexico __________________ Raoul Duke: "I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you wandering around with a head full of acid, wanting to slice me up with that goddamn knife." Dr. Gonzo: "Who said anything about slicing you up, man. I just wanted to cut a little Z in your forehead."

08-18-2004, 12:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
CrazySaturn Insane Location: Champaign, IL	I do believe it's so you can choose placement of the oil filter yourself. i.e. put it facing down on an extension for easier oil changes. __________________ What's the difference between you and a mallard with a cold? One's a sick duck...I can't remember how it ends, but your mother is a whore!

08-23-2004, 09:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
tfpfreak Crazy Location: MS	It does need an adapter. Your local parts dealer should have this. Also, a relocation kit could be used. In this case, no adapter is needed and the oil filter can be mounted for easier access.

08-26-2004, 10:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
urbandev Insane Location: Dayton, NV	Summit had it for $8 works great, well, aside from having to get some correct diameter bolts for it because the ones that transadapt supplied were too small. luckily i get bolts from work for like $0.02 Mod may close/delete this thread if you feel the need. __________________ Raoul Duke: "I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you wandering around with a head full of acid, wanting to slice me up with that goddamn knife." Dr. Gonzo: "Who said anything about slicing you up, man. I just wanted to cut a little Z in your forehead."

08-29-2004, 08:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
KrazyKracka Crazy Location: PA	most blocks come shipped without the adapters, when I purchased my crate engine, it needed the adapter as well, which I purchased from GM for about $20. My old 350 also had an oil cooler on it from the factory, but I bypassed it (very easily) just for simplification and a "cleaner" engine bay. GM hasn't really changed the design of the SBC until recently, with the LS1 found in Corvettes, Trans Ams and Camaros. The basic design of the SBC is the same from its introduction in the late 1950's clear up until a few years ago with the debut of the LS1. In 1986, GM changed the blocks slightly, changing the crankshaft design, and putting roller lifters in the blocks.