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ChrisJericho 07-09-2010 04:10 PM

Last PT cruiser produced (thank god !)
 
Last PT Cruiser Rolls Off the Assembly Line - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com

This brought a smile to my face. I think the PT cruiser is one of the most unattractive vehicles ever produced. In my opinion it's up there with the Aztek.

Party time !

Baraka_Guru 07-09-2010 04:36 PM

Wow, they were still making those?

BadNick 07-09-2010 04:38 PM

I was happy reading this thread until you mentioned the Aztek. I'm sorry to be a member of the same species that came up with that thing.

I would like to add that my daughter thinks Azteks are cool. I think she's cool. I don't get it.

sbscout 07-09-2010 05:35 PM

i kinda liked the retro look on the pt...

oh well, they'll come up with something else that won't sell in its place

Xerxys 07-09-2010 05:37 PM

Oh goodness. Thank you GM. That atrocity shall never be forgiven in my eyes! What the hell is wrong with car makers? Why can't they just make good looking cars that don't feed on a little of your soul every time you ride to work in them?

SecretMethod70 07-09-2010 05:40 PM

ChrisJericho is back, and bearing great news! What an ugly car.

telekinetic 07-09-2010 09:30 PM

Stupid looking rebodied neon...good riddance.

Baraka_Guru 07-09-2010 10:29 PM

Lookit me! I'm Dick Tracy!


Yeah, *ahem*.... Nice car.... Dick.

Wes Mantooth 07-09-2010 10:47 PM

Well thank god! Man I remember about 10(ish) years ago it seemed like that piece of shit car was everywhere.

However I'll be happy when this thing goes out of production...

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/1069946...be_EX_2005.jpg

Will forever be the most unattractive vehicle ever produced...ever...in the history of ever. EVER!

FuglyStick 07-09-2010 10:47 PM

Wow, there's a lot of hate for a car that's been around for a decade and passed the one million units sold mark. The retro styling was a bit cutesy, but I saw a lot of them being used by small businesses as a fuel efficient mini panel truck. At least it wasn't another mini van filling that role.

ngdawg 07-10-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJericho (Post 2804449)
Last PT Cruiser Rolls Off the Assembly Line - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com

This brought a smile to my face. I think the PT cruiser is one of the most unattractive vehicles ever produced. In my opinion it's up there with the Aztek.

Party time !

Go scratch.
I've had mine since 10/00 and the spouse's since 1/03.
I've run 14 drags against other more modded PT's and won 12 times, including low ET for a weekend event.
The only major work in those 9.5 years has been control arms and timing belt replacements.
You are right about one thing-that's YOUR opinion. And it's one of no-nothing snobbery-a main reason I no longer frequent this place. You're the same people who think NACSCAR is only enjoyed by toothless stupid rednecks.
Oh, and for the record, one of the most admired original members that also has become infrequent of late is a close friend of mine and we met.......















at a PT Cruiser weekend event.


Opinions are like assholes-everyone has one and sometimes it stinks.

silent_jay 07-10-2010 06:55 PM

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Cynthetiq 07-10-2010 07:25 PM

I like this vehicle. It's a great rental since it is comfortable and easy to get in and out without being an extremely tall ride like an SUV.

I find it a shame that they didn't do more with evolving the model, and like the Neon, it was hailed as a great arrival, and then they rested on their laurels and did nothing.

Typical American company corporate strategy.

Xerxys 07-10-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg (Post 2804691)
Go scratch.
I've had mine since 10/00 and the spouse's since 1/03.
I've run 14 drags against other more modded PT's and won 12 times, including low ET for a weekend event.
The only major work in those 9.5 years has been control arms and timing belt replacements.
You are right about one thing-that's YOUR opinion. And it's one of no-nothing snobbery-a main reason I no longer frequent this place. You're the same people who think NACSCAR is only enjoyed by toothless stupid rednecks.
Oh, and for the record, one of the most admired original members that also has become infrequent of late is a close friend of mine and we met.......















at a PT Cruiser weekend event.


Opinions are like assholes-everyone has one and sometimes it stinks.

C'mon NG, just cause we think a car is ugly doesn't mean we think it's useless. They could have used the same material to make a really fashionable car. But their minds glossed through all the available concept cars and created the PT.

I think that was rather uncool of them.

BadNick 07-10-2010 09:05 PM

As I said before, I think the Aztek was uglier. I would like to see a NASCAR race with just PT Cruisers and Azteks competing. That would be cool.

Craven Morehead 07-11-2010 04:56 AM

I liked the PT when it came out. However, the styling remined static and now looks dated - odd to say for a retro design. To me it certainly much more acceptable than the Chevy HHR.

silent_jay 07-11-2010 11:55 AM

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ngdawg 07-11-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silent_jay (Post 2804693)
How is thinking the PT is an ugly car 'no-nothing snobbery'? I believe you meant 'know nothing snobbery'. Guess anyone who doesn't like them knows nothing, and those who own them know it all? NASCAR? Who brought circle racing into this? The dizziest racing in motorsports history, some like it, some don't, it's all preference.

Who cares where you met 'one of the most admired original members', could have met them at the Vatican, still doesn't mean everyone's going to love the PT, or has to love it.

Oh no!!! I made a spelling foe paw!!!!

And no, it is the attitude with which these types of posts are made...akin to "thank goodness THOSE people moved off OUR street. They were soooooooo not like us". It's also seemingly done with a "let's see how many agree with me or how many I can royally piss off". It's a worthless discussion because it is based on personal preference and I mention the friend because of the KNOW-it-all snobbery with which this thread was started and it would probably floor the OP to think that someone so widely admired could possibly own such a horrid vehicle. Have a wonderful day.

Redjake 07-11-2010 07:06 PM

I used to hate the PTs until my wife got one and it's actually a nice car. I still don't enjoy the outside styling, but it's not nearly as ugly as everyone says. At least it doesn't look like a damn jelly bean mixed with a Camry, like 99% of cars out there!

silent_jay 07-11-2010 07:28 PM

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ChrisJericho 07-11-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg (Post 2804918)

It's a worthless discussion because it is based on personal preference

If it's a worthless discussion why have you replied twice to it?

SecretMethod70 07-11-2010 08:59 PM

Criticism of material objects != criticism of the people who own those material objects.

telekinetic 07-11-2010 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg (Post 2804918)
Oh no!!! I made a spelling foe paw!!!!

And no, it is the attitude with which these types of posts are made...akin to "thank goodness THOSE people moved off OUR street. They were soooooooo not like us". It's also seemingly done with a "let's see how many agree with me or how many I can royally piss off". It's a worthless discussion because it is based on personal preference and I mention the friend because of the KNOW-it-all snobbery with which this thread was started and it would probably floor the OP to think that someone so widely admired could possibly own such a horrid vehicle. Have a wonderful day.

For someone who drives an ugly car that's been out an entire decade...I'd think you'd have developed thicker skin about it by now.

Wes Mantooth 07-11-2010 10:56 PM

I'm widely admired therefore nothing I own is either ugly or unpopular and is above criticism because again I'm am widely admired...really? Did I just read that or did I drink to much Goerge Dickle?

Oddly enough I don't like the PT cruiser (I think they're frighteningly ugly sorry no offense) and yet I don't think NASCAR fans are stupid toothless rednecks. Uh oh, now I don't know if I'm a snob or not. Oh well it doesn't matter as I'm widely admired thus rendering everyone elses opinion moot. Life as the widely admired ROCKS!!!!!

Jetée 07-11-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretMethod70 (Post 2804934)
Criticism of material objects != criticism of the people who own those material objects.

Doesn't even have to be tangible objects, really. I've been more-or-less (scale says 'more') told off in the past few weeks just because I questioned an affiliation's tactics in marketing, which another member here supported, and I was told that my side of the argument didn't matter because I elocuted my contention in such a way - that, I don't know, they felt threatened or disgusted or turned off, and I never mentioned them once in my post, but regardless, my investment and thought expansion was just left there - as if I kicked dirt on someone's idea because I didn't initially agree with it. Been told off for asking elaborations on the OP as well; some are just too invested into their ideals to be completely rational and amiably-communicative about it. I was questioning the discussion points at hand, as I regularly do, if so in a manner to better understand the topic, its context, and general meaning, yet was chastised, for I know not the reason why unstated member(s) perceived it to be more of a personal agenda against them.

What about any one of my posts says 'personal'? I don't spend thirty minutes thinking and typing out a post just to subtly say 'shoo, you don't matter', though I do routinely get those in return, which is odd, and as of yet, I see no basis or examples for insults in this thread (save for the initial tone of how this thread came about, on a level of "I'm up here and an objective observer of good design & stylistics in contemporary US daily life dealings, and this car of which I'm speaking, this PT Cruiser, is all the way down there, in the gutter, a malignant curse upon this town, these people, by God, our country's ideals and FREEDOM, an automobile so wretched, I now sing the praises of its last dying breath, for well, finally, it has been slayed from future productions." Subjectively, though, that's my own take on the tone of the first half-dozen posts here.)

Crumble-bums. I've lost most of you, haven't I?

Cars I don't like?
My aesthetic sense doesn't agree with most of the shoe-box-looking car designs that have been rolling out since the turn of the millenium. The once-new Transformers yellow Camaro is a good-enough popular example of this trend. The Hummer variations are another.

In my opinion, the Plymouth Prowler is somewhat like envisioning a PT Cruiser devoid of 60% of its body structure, so in that regard, I think the PT is at least 25% cool.

Wes Mantooth 07-11-2010 11:23 PM

I read it Jet :thumbsup:

Some people just get REALLY weirded out by others negative opinions about something they like. You're a music fan (love reading your remix/oddity thread btw) and like me I'm sure you've seen people almost come to blows because somebody dared to say the don't like a certain song/album or band. It is what it is I guess.

bodypainter 07-12-2010 01:46 AM

I didn't think the PT was ugly, but retro designs are going to be a love/hate proposition. But, we rented a new PT a couple years ago and drove it a few hundred miles and it was probably the worst rental car I've ever had. It had numerous small problems, drove like a bucket of mush, and got terrible fuel mileage.

All it had going for itself was the retro looks. All sizzle and no steak.

powerclown 07-12-2010 05:17 PM

People race PT Cruisers? Why?? :confused:

Lestat 07-12-2010 05:21 PM

Wow, I can't believe that they were still making them...

powerclown 07-12-2010 06:59 PM

Its amazing isn't it? Chrysler continues to produce some godawful cars for sale these days, unless you are a soccer mom.

MSD 07-13-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2804477)
Oh goodness. Thank you GM. That atrocity shall never be forgiven in my eyes! What the hell is wrong with car makers? Why can't they just make good looking cars that don't feed on a little of your soul every time you ride to work in them?

Except that it wasn't made by GM.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetée (Post 2804951)
In my opinion, the Plymouth Prowler is somewhat like envisioning a PT Cruiser devoid of 60% of its body structure, so in that regard, I think the PT is at least 25% cool.

It could have been cool, shame they only made it with a V6 and one of Chrysler's legendary Ultradrive automatics.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg (Post 2804691)
I've run 14 drags against other more modded PT's and won 12 times, including low ET for a weekend event.

I understand that it can be done, but why?

Daemon1313 07-15-2010 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSD (Post 2805445)
I understand that it can be done, but why?

Think of it as the Special Olympics of drag racing.

telekinetic 07-15-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daemon1313 (Post 2805886)
Think of it as the Special Olympics of drag racing.

I lump all FWD drag racing into that category, with a special section reserved for grocery getters.

hunnychile 07-15-2010 12:43 PM

All I want to add is that love 'em or hate 'em everyone is entitled to their own taste in cars, men, ladies, clothes or whatever.

I know several Lesbians that are probably beyond sad the PT is no longer being made!! The purple ones (PTs not lesbians) were a hot commodity in Northern California.

MSD 07-15-2010 05:04 PM

At least I wasn't the only one who noticed the lesbian connection.

Honestly, people are fans of cars for many reasons, and I love some of the niches even if I'd never even own one. I know Festiva enthusiasts, for Christ's sake. To each his or her own, but understand that your opinion is not the popular one if you love your PT. What I can say about the PT is that there are very few cars so universally reviled by enthusiasts I have known. Poor build quality and frequent failures of suspension components and the transmission, paint that chips off due to factory masking, poor interior quality and panels that fall apart, sloppy handling, complete lack of feeling connected to the road, control arms and steering arms prone to failure, a 2.0 engine in the economy model that lags behind the Mustang and Panther platform V8s in fuel economy while failing to produce the acceleration necessary for anything but the most regulation of highway merges, plus the fact that a lot of people consider it just plain ugly.

As an enthusiast of the Lincoln Mark VII/VIII, the BMW 850, and several other wonderful cars that were objectively terrible, don't think I'm attacking you, just realize that you, like I, love a shitty car.

powerclown 07-15-2010 06:13 PM

Somebody mentioned the Chevy HHR as being as disgusting looking as a PT Cruiser. It's actually not such a bad looking car in person.

http://0.tqn.com/d/trucks/1/0/u/H/custom_hhr_ftside.jpg

http://www.sfxperformance.com/images...hevy-hhr-3.jpg

http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/ar..._chevy/hhr.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0053_large.jpg

http://www.chevyhhr.net/gallery/file...9/9/latest.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...65x421_A56.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0236_large.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0001_large.jpg

http://www.truckersusa.com/EZAuto/DealerImages/hhr1.jpg

Baraka_Guru 07-15-2010 06:30 PM

I simply don't get the decisions people make aesthetically when it comes to certain cars. This refers to everyone: designers, big wigs, consumers. I don't get how people would spend the money on the PT Cruiser, the Prowler, the Asstek, the Honda Element, those box things that I think Mercedes and Nissan are making (they're not "boxy"; they're boxes), the Mustang from about 1980 to 2002 or so, etc.

What I don't get is why spend the money on these options when there are other perfectly okay-looking competitive models? I don't get how people think these cars look good. Okay, I was a bit harsh on the Mustang and the Element, but still....

If I ever get around to buying my first car, there's no way I'm going to spend the money on something that, for whatever reason, is trying not to look like a car. Mind you, the look of the car won't be the top priority, but I would have to look at the thing time and again, right?

Plan9 07-15-2010 07:12 PM

Sheah, too bad we all can't drive Yukons and Mustangs.

Not that I'm defending the suppository-looking mini-hearse.

/fap fap fap

SecretMethod70 07-15-2010 07:47 PM

Baraka: Exactly. The 2010 PT Cruiser Classic starts at $18,995. Just by doing a quick search on vehix, I found a certified pre-owned 2006 AUDI A3 for $16,995. I'd go with the used Audi, thank you very much.

MSD 07-16-2010 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerclown (Post 2805978)
Somebody mentioned the Chevy HHR as being as disgusting looking as a PT Cruiser. It's actually not such a bad looking car in person.

Would you believe they were designed by the same guy?


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