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Fast Forward · 12-17-2007, 01:14 AM

We don’t see many American cars over here. They’re generally not very popular except for some 50’s and 60’s that are the dream cars of American-Auto clubs.

I actually saw a Hummer a few days ago. What happened to Jeep? Are they no longer the workhorse they used to be? The Jeep was great. We used to steal them in Vietnam and drive them like maniacs till they ended up stuck deep in a rice paddy, where we’d leave them with turds floating over the rocker panels and onto the floorboards. I don’t think the Vietnamese liked it very much and we probably contributed to a lot of them joining the Viet-Cong.

Anyway, those Jeeps were the best. I remember the Army bought some Ford Broncos and I had a chance to steal one of those too. Useless! They could get stuck in a dried out gopher hole.

Anyway, what I really want to know is something about the Chrysler. I’ve seen a couple of those new ones and they remind me of the Hummer. It’s that style that I know I should think is ugly but I don’t. They (the Hummer and the Chrysler) have that boxy look and I think it’s nice. I suspect they were inspired by the Citroën BX models with the squared-off wheel wells. So what gives? Is the Hummer owned by Chrysler? Why do they look so much alike?

Ilow · 12-17-2007, 08:45 AM

It's difficult to address this question, as it seems like a lot to try to catch you up on. First, the US military no longer uses Jeeps, like the ones you crash landed in rice paddies, and has not for over 20 years. They were replaced by the "Hummer" (H1) in the early 80's (more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer). The civilian Hummers now come in three flavors (medium, large and extra large) and are made by GM (not Chrysler). Chrysler still makes civilian Jeeps, and has now greatly expanded their lineup (pretty much doubled it) in the last few years.
I am guessing that you may be referring to the new Chrysler 300's when you talk about boxy looking cars, but they don't really look like a Hummer. I am pretty sure the no American company has taken design cues from a Citroën, as they are usually ugly enough to make people appreciate a Pontiac Aztek. edit, I just googled the BX and I would not use it as an outhouse.

Craven Morehead · 12-17-2007, 09:11 AM

GM owns Hummer

Skutch · 12-17-2007, 10:19 PM

Yes, and Chrysler owns Jeep. What chrysler are you talking about? The Jeep Commander is ugly on the outside, but fantastically luxurious on the inside and very capable offroad once modified. Its the Jeep flagship model. You should check the website.

Fast Forward · 12-18-2007, 12:49 AM

Citroën BX:

Chrysler 300:

Hummer:

The squared off wheel wells on the Citroën BX was produced all through the 1980’s and could very well have inspired the Hummer.

On the other hand, so did the Lamborghini LM:

The bulky, bull-nose front end of the Chrysler 300 is reminiscent of the Hummer though now that I see them together I must admit that the resemblamce is minimum.

All in all, the style is pretty good.

By the way, the Citroën BX was designed by the famous auto designer Bertone. It was designated for the Volvo but they “chickened out” so Citroën used the design instead.

Deltona Couple · 12-24-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skutch

Yes, and Chrysler owns Jeep. What chrysler are you talking about? The Jeep Commander is ugly on the outside, but fantastically luxurious on the inside and very capable offroad once modified. Its the Jeep flagship model. You should check the website.

I would like to know where you got the information that the Commander was the Jeep's flagship? Jeep's flagship has ALWAYS been the TJ and YJ since jeeps inception. The Cherokee and Commander were side tracks to help bring in a different type of clientel to Jeep.

The GM Hummer as was stated has 3 different types, The H1, which is based on the military version of the product. The H2 is really not much more than a highly modified, glorified version of a Tahoe. They use the same powertrain, and basic drivetrain as the tahoe, and most of the computer controls are the same. It just has a different body, and uses heavier suspension components. The H3 in my opinion is a waste of Hummer design time. And as such, I have not made too much research on it. I just know that it is NOT very capable offroad.

LoganSnake · 12-24-2007, 11:08 PM

I don't know where you're located, but here in Chicago and its suburbs you can't drive 2 miles without seeing Jeep, a Chrysler or a Hummer (H1, H2 or H3).

12-17-2007, 01:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fast Forward Banned Location: Tramtária	Jeep-Hummer-Chrysler We don’t see many American cars over here. They’re generally not very popular except for some 50’s and 60’s that are the dream cars of American-Auto clubs. I actually saw a Hummer a few days ago. What happened to Jeep? Are they no longer the workhorse they used to be? The Jeep was great. We used to steal them in Vietnam and drive them like maniacs till they ended up stuck deep in a rice paddy, where we’d leave them with turds floating over the rocker panels and onto the floorboards. I don’t think the Vietnamese liked it very much and we probably contributed to a lot of them joining the Viet-Cong. Anyway, those Jeeps were the best. I remember the Army bought some Ford Broncos and I had a chance to steal one of those too. Useless! They could get stuck in a dried out gopher hole. Anyway, what I really want to know is something about the Chrysler. I’ve seen a couple of those new ones and they remind me of the Hummer. It’s that style that I know I should think is ugly but I don’t. They (the Hummer and the Chrysler) have that boxy look and I think it’s nice. I suspect they were inspired by the Citroën BX models with the squared-off wheel wells. So what gives? Is the Hummer owned by Chrysler? Why do they look so much alike?

12-17-2007, 08:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ilow Junkie Location: Pats country	It's difficult to address this question, as it seems like a lot to try to catch you up on. First, the US military no longer uses Jeeps, like the ones you crash landed in rice paddies, and has not for over 20 years. They were replaced by the "Hummer" (H1) in the early 80's (more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer). The civilian Hummers now come in three flavors (medium, large and extra large) and are made by GM (not Chrysler). Chrysler still makes civilian Jeeps, and has now greatly expanded their lineup (pretty much doubled it) in the last few years. I am guessing that you may be referring to the new Chrysler 300's when you talk about boxy looking cars, but they don't really look like a Hummer. I am pretty sure the no American company has taken design cues from a Citroën, as they are usually ugly enough to make people appreciate a Pontiac Aztek. edit, I just googled the BX and I would not use it as an outhouse. __________________ "Religion is the one area of our discourse in which it is considered noble to pretend to be certain about things no human being could possibly be certain about" --Sam Harris

12-18-2007, 12:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fast Forward Banned Location: Tramtária	Citroën BX: Chrysler 300: Hummer: The squared off wheel wells on the Citroën BX was produced all through the 1980’s and could very well have inspired the Hummer. On the other hand, so did the Lamborghini LM: The bulky, bull-nose front end of the Chrysler 300 is reminiscent of the Hummer though now that I see them together I must admit that the resemblamce is minimum. All in all, the style is pretty good. By the way, the Citroën BX was designed by the famous auto designer Bertone. It was designated for the Volvo but they “chickened out” so Citroën used the design instead. Last edited by Fast Forward; 12-18-2007 at 12:51 AM..

12-24-2007, 11:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	I don't know where you're located, but here in Chicago and its suburbs you can't drive 2 miles without seeing Jeep, a Chrysler or a Hummer (H1, H2 or H3). __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

12-17-2007, 09:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	GM owns Hummer

12-17-2007, 10:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Skutch Crazy	Yes, and Chrysler owns Jeep. What chrysler are you talking about? The Jeep Commander is ugly on the outside, but fantastically luxurious on the inside and very capable offroad once modified. Its the Jeep flagship model. You should check the website.