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Old 05-07-2003, 12:16 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Oh ok. Sorry, when you said "clean it out," I thought you where going to clean the bowl. :P
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Old 05-07-2003, 08:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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it has crap on it, ie the valves and stuff...black crap, should i just wipe it down with carb and choke cleaner?
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Old 05-08-2003, 03:09 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Just give the carb a good soaking with carb cleaner and hit it with compressed air..... the black crap isn't going to hurt anything but you can soak a rag with carb clean and wipe it off if you want, the main thing is to use a new carb to intake gasket, and to tighten the bolts evenly.... just a little intake leak will make your engine run like crap......
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:49 AM   #44 (permalink)
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that is if i can get the fucker to run at all...

i got a new coil & wire, put them on, nothing...any more ideas?
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:50 AM   #45 (permalink)
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im really tempted to drive it into the river and be done with it
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:52 AM   #46 (permalink)
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*push* it into the river
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Old 05-08-2003, 03:00 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Hard to just guess, 1. getting spark? 2. getting power to coil? 3. wires on coil reversed? 4. points dirty or not set right? my truck had a points distributor but I chucked it and put a HEI distributor in, hotter spark and no crappy points to deal with.
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Old 05-08-2003, 05:27 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Hard to just guess, 1. getting spark? 2. getting power to coil? 3. wires on coil reversed? 4. points dirty or not set right? my truck had a points distributor but I chucked it and put a HEI distributor in, hotter spark and no crappy points to deal with.
Try that stuff, but Ashton is damned right. Get rid of that points distributor as soon as possible. They are nothing but PITAs. Honestly, I would not really even screw with the points distributor, an HEI is so easy to get and cheap to boot. You can use an HEI or a points elimination system, just so long as the points are gone. I put a Crane XR-700 ignition in my points distributor and will never use points again.
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Old 05-08-2003, 09:49 PM   #49 (permalink)
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mine is HEI ...and i found my problem...corroded plug wires(on the plug end)...so whenever it stops raining...im going to attempt to clean then up a bit with WD40 and shit...not having a garage is really gay.
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Old 05-08-2003, 11:11 PM   #50 (permalink)
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there are 3 wires going to my coil, one comes from the distributer, the other 2 from who knows where, somewhere toward the rear of the eingine...the one that comes from the dist is positive, right?
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Old 05-09-2003, 01:08 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Ummmm....well. What is actually in that distributor? That is a points distributor body. Look at Ashton's truck pics, he has an HEI.

If it is still points in the distributor you have, that wire, is negative. The single wire from the points runs to the coil's neagative terminal.
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Old 05-09-2003, 02:42 AM   #52 (permalink)
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HEI distributor's have the coil in the cap..... Chevy didn't start using HEI until 1975, your distributor is a points distributor.... the points should be set at .019 On the coil there is a +, the hot wire goes there.... the wire from the distributor goes to the - ...... the third wire is probally a tach wire if it comes off the - post

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Old 05-09-2003, 02:48 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Another thing, corroded plug ends won't stop the spark..... the engine may miss a little but it wouldn't stop it from running.
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Old 05-09-2003, 04:59 PM   #54 (permalink)
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it doesnt have points, i dont know wtf it is but it doesnt have points

and i replaced the coil wire, and the fucked up plug wires and it tried to fire...but didnt
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Old 05-09-2003, 05:52 PM   #55 (permalink)
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and my coil doesnt have a post, tis' female
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Old 05-09-2003, 06:50 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Hmmmm, well.... either you're out of time, or you're not getting gas.... You might have fouled the plugs, pull them out and check them. You could try shooting some starter fluid in the carb.... if it starts and runs for a second then dies you're not getting any gas.
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Old 05-10-2003, 12:17 AM   #57 (permalink)
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got some gas, but also have dead battery, so im "borrowing" my moms boyfriends battery out of his disabled truck, replaced the corroded wires and all that, cleaned a couple dirty plugs, will try again tommorow...

Coil wires:
wire #1 comes from the front of the dist.
wire #2 comes out of a bundle of wires leading to the dist. from who knows where(red/orange/blown looking)
wire #3 seems to come from the base of the coil bracket
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Old 05-10-2003, 01:03 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Well, usually the #1 wire would go to the - post on the coil...... The #2 wire I would guess is the + wire from the ignition switch..... #3 confuses me, is it grounded to the coil bracket? where does it go after the coil bracket? just the fact that your points type distributor has a replacment electronic ignition confuses me.... I always chuck points type distributors and replace them with HEI distributors.... you said you replaced the coil, did you buy a stock coil or the coil for the electronic ignition?
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Old 05-10-2003, 01:58 AM   #59 (permalink)
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i bought a coil that looks exactly like what was on it.

you think the way he had my truck set up is wierd, you should se the way he put our house together...(same guy we got the house from sold me the truck)
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Old 05-10-2003, 02:17 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2003, 03:58 PM   #61 (permalink)
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You're going to have to take a pic of the distributor with the cap off, I need to see whats inside it...... it's either a old T1 (which I doubt) or it just has a aftermarket electronic ignition kit installed, the wire in your pic looks like its going to a condenser? or is that just part of the bracket? condensers are inside the distributor when you have points.... electronic ignition dosen't need a condenser, the old T1's had a resistence wire going from the - post on the coil to ground..... It's way too confusing to just guess at...... try to find the model # of the distributor, and the name? # off the electronic part inside. I have a feeling that the coil you bought isn't the right one, what happened to the old one? you had the engine running before..... coils usually don't just go bad unless they get cracked or a wire inside breaks.
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:55 PM   #62 (permalink)
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the old one turned green inside and spewed some goo
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Old 05-11-2003, 10:05 PM   #63 (permalink)
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it was running ok until i left the hood off one night in dense fog...then it wouldnt start, the carb wasnt getting any gas, so i took out the filter and made sure it wasnt clogged, wasnt, unhooked the gas lines and put it in a bowl and cranked it, bowl filled with gas, so its not the pump...got another Qjet from my cousin(looks exactly the same, but works)...it gets wet and smells of gas, but no spark for some reason, so i pulled the dist. to coil wire off and looked into the coil and noticed that it was all green and fucked up looking. and the wire was all fucked up and broke when i took it off because it was brittle, so i bought a new coil and wire(wire kit...very gay),so i 'built' the wire, put the coil on, hooked it all up and it glugged once and stops showing any signs of life, so ilooked at my plug wires and noticed that they were rusted as hell, so i said fuck it and got a new set(voiding the coil wire i bought...), so i replaced said wires and tried again, nothing, by this time my battery is about 1/3 charged...so i got a couple gallons of gas and tried again, 3 chugs and no life...after that, nothing...

Stupid question:
how can i test to see if im getting any spark?

My battery is now dead...but im stealing my moms boyfriends while he's at work(his truck doesnt move anyway, dead tranny)...

i can probably get some pictures tommorow when he gets home, depending on if he wants to be a dickface
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Old 05-11-2003, 10:09 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Thank you Ashton and mighty mouse for all your help.
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Old 05-11-2003, 11:22 PM   #65 (permalink)
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You can check for spark by removing a plug, (do this at night, preferably, or in a darkened garage.) Using a pair of -insulated- pliers, stick the plug into the plug wire. (The plug needs to be out of the head.) Have someone crank the engine over, and hold the plug electrode 1/8th" from the exhaust manifold or the negative post on the battery. If you see a spark, you have spark.
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Old 05-12-2003, 04:30 PM   #66 (permalink)
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You must not be getting any spark if you're getting gas and the engine won't hit on at least one cylinder, I suppose the timing could be way off but you said it was running before.... even if you got the firing order wrong it would at least backfire, either the coil you bought is the wrong one or you have the wires hooked up wrong.

If I was you I'd just go down to the wrecking yard and buy a old HEI distributor..... it will drop right in and all you have to do is hook up one hot wire and plug in the spark plug wires.
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Old 05-12-2003, 04:38 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Another thing, when you say you're getting gas... are you sure you're not getting too much gas? If the float in the carb is stuck in the down position or it has a hole in it and is full of gas so that it can't float the carb will dump way too much gas in the engine and flood it..... I totally flooded engine will crank and crank and never start, just as if it had no spark.
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Old 05-12-2003, 05:42 PM   #68 (permalink)
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im going to try hokking the coil up again, in a differant order and shit, and ill take pics of the distributer, then ill be back :x
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Old 05-13-2003, 07:02 PM   #69 (permalink)
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coil bracket and... (resistor?)

again

wire #3 was coming out of the top of this thing...until it broke off

Bottom: 1852715 DR 3MF

W 312?

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Old 05-14-2003, 03:41 PM   #70 (permalink)
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That's a condenser...... If your distributor dosen't have points you don't need a condenser.

Do you have a volt meter? if you do, turn on the ignition and test for power from the wire coming out of the harness... the wire with power goes to the positive post on the coil, the other wire goes from the negitive post on the coil to the distributor, hopefully you didn't toast the electronic ignition..... if you did, junk that distributor and buy a HEI. Just one wire to hook up and ten times better than that old converted dist.
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Old 05-14-2003, 11:06 PM   #71 (permalink)
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how much are they?
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Old 05-14-2003, 11:09 PM   #72 (permalink)
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im thinking about getting a 1k student loan and using that to get this running, seeing as everything will sequencially take a shit on me anyway
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Old 05-15-2003, 02:58 AM   #73 (permalink)
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About $50..... give or take a few bucks, try to find one of those 'pull it yourself' wrecking yards.... they're always the cheapest, remember to get the power wire connector... just cut it off with enough slack to crimp it onto your trucks power wire.
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Old 05-15-2003, 07:38 AM   #74 (permalink)
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The Holley should have a port on the side.... take a pic of it so I can tell which model Holley it is. This one is a 650 cfm

I got the same carb. Thats so cool. I got rubber hoseing so you should be good.
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Old 05-17-2003, 12:19 AM   #75 (permalink)
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this engine is 80% original, everythign except heads, intake, cap, rotor, and valve covers, well and plugs and wires...and battery, eberything else is 30 yrs old...

what should i replace?
and no, i havent gotten it running again m im going to go looks for a use HEI distribiter tommorow, and hopefully i dont fuck up the timing too bad putting it in
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Old 05-17-2003, 07:04 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I would say waterpump, but unless it's been sitting for a long time it's probally been replaced...... and the radiator will more than likely either need to be pulled out and rodded or replaced, it's highly unlikely that the previous owner flushed it from time to time or kept it full of antifreeze. That in itself is a problem.... the original freeze plugs in the block are steel, they like to rust out.... check them, two in the front.... three on each side of the block..... there's two in between the engine and the tranny too but you can't check them, you have to pull the tranny to replace them.
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Old 05-18-2003, 02:05 AM   #77 (permalink)
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i might be moving in with my aunt for the summer, so i will be bringing my truck with me on a trailor, and tearing the wntire engine apart and seeing what needs to be replace, but ill have my cousins to help me this time
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Old 05-26-2003, 12:00 AM   #78 (permalink)
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IT'S ALIVE!
and i feel like an idiot...
I was forgetting to prime the carb...

and that condensor seems to have not done anything.

but my timing is either WAY off, or i have crossed wires, because its hickuping :x (it shot a nice sized fireball out of the carb too :x)
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Old 05-26-2003, 06:31 AM   #79 (permalink)
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braided lines are intended to protect the rubber core from factors such as abrasion, heat etc. as well as adding good looks.
i've found that it also helps keep the fuel cool which is a bonus in the area of performance... i.e. cool cans used to keep the fuel condensed
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Old 05-26-2003, 12:45 PM   #80 (permalink)
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good to know

ashton, can you find that firing order diagram again?
i looked all over in the book i have and it's nowhere, and yahoo had like 9 differant firing orders come up, and seeing as you have the same engine as me, it should be the same
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